Re: conclusion: F15 / systemd / user-experience

2011-06-14 Thread Andy Green (林安廸)
On 06/14/2011 05:57 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said: Fedora could well benefit from switching to a rolling release model as well (no not rawhide - a controlled rolling release much as the kernel development follows). I've been living from rawhide on my main laptop for a few

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-14 Thread Andy Green (林安廸)
On 06/14/2011 11:17 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said: Hi - Dude, systemd requires the functionality of the three modules it loads explicitly. systemd requires ipv6. And you pitch systemd to be used by embedded devices. Do you really think all embedded devices will be happy

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-14 Thread Andy Green (林安廸)
On 06/14/2011 11:43 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said: For what's left, eg ARM9+ that you can run normal Linux and Fedora on, ipv6 is going to be workable if the memory allows. Looking a year or two ahead, where Embedded will extend to Cortex A15 quad core, and IPv6 will

headsup: rawhide 3.0 kernel needs symlink

2011-06-03 Thread Andy Green (林安廸)
Hi - Maybe it's common knowledge already but the 3.0 / 3.0.0 thing has led to the uname -r of the kernel not matching the packaged module path. Your boot will be a bit minimal until you stick a symlink in along the lines of -- ln -sf /lib/modules/3.0-0.rc1.git0.1.fc16.x86_64

Re: FC15 beta testing result by my 76-year old uncle

2011-04-24 Thread Andy Green
On 04/23/2011 08:46 PM, Somebody in the thread at some point said: Hi - I've setup FC15 beta for my 76-year old uncle. The major issues encountered: * wake up from suspend didn't work on his laptop; on another one does I thought my suspend was broken on this laptop. But it turned out it is

Adding ARM Cross generation patch to gcc and binutils specfiles

2010-12-25 Thread Andy Green
Hi - Building on the work of Lennert Buytenhek and David Woodhouse I recently uplevelled the spec files for gcc and binutils they did for gcc-4.1.2 and binutils-2.17.50.0.18 to work with recent rawhide gcc and binutils. The goal of the spec changes is to allow rpmbuild to also build cross gcc

Re: Putting cross compilers into Fedora

2010-09-05 Thread Andy Green
On 09/01/10 16:29, Somebody in the thread at some point said: Hi - What are the use cases for the cross-compilers? If these are to compliment the Fedora secondary archs, then compiling kernels is probably the main use of cross-compilers -- for example, on ARM, devices often need a custom

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-13 Thread Andy Green
On 03/13/10 11:46, Somebody in the thread at some point said: On 03/13/2010 11:52 AM, Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: pe, 2010-03-12 kello 15:20 -0800, Jesse Keating kirjoitti: As Fedora is the distribution I'm most familiar with, I've also installed it on some of my family members' systems but

Re: Cannot rely on /dev being present in %post scripts?

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Green
On 08/14/2009 10:20 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said: It's been pretty common since forever for various scriptlets to redirect output of stderr/stdout to /dev/null, so I think it'd be a bit of an ugly mess if there was a mandatory packaging rule you couldn't use at least

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Green
On 03/12/10 00:45, Somebody in the thread at some point said: If you are the user, then you should not be compiling software. :-) You should be using some repository and that repository is responsible for rebuilding the package. I tend to agree with what you have been writing but this seems

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Green
On 03/12/10 14:01, Somebody in the thread at some point said: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:23:58PM +, Andy Green wrote: However I agree this isn't a real issue, the packages with the homegrown apps should choke the yum update because they see the lib versions they depend on would go away

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Green
On 03/12/10 18:06, Somebody in the thread at some point said: In this context, if you're writing homegrown apps, you're a developer, not a user, so the above sentence obviously does not apply. Instead, my original point does (you'll be compiling your own software very often anyway). It's a