On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:
Back in 2012 there was a discussion about having Fedora default to
using a local DNS caching name server [1]:
...
repeated long application hangs/delays. We need an independent,
system-wide DNS cache, and always point
I would like to see logic like this:
manpage files don't get installed unless/until:
1) packagename-manpages is requested to be installed by the user. that
package would require the 'man' package.
OR
2) package is installed AND man is installed.
Don't wan't the manpages taking up disk space?
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote:
Am 09.04.2014 22:05, schrieb Billy Crook:
I would like to see logic like this:
manpage files don't get installed unless/until:
1) packagename-manpages is requested to be installed by the user. that
package would
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
How about no release name, just this one time. In his honor?
I'd back no release name for 20 with 8 points and 0 for everything else, if
it's an
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 17:23 -0400, Douglas Schilling Landgraf wrote:
I have installed Fedora 17/18/19 (selected Minimal installation) from
DVD and it completed successfully, however there is no tar tool.
It's missing
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote:
Given the amount of time that he spent on the mailing-list fighting for those
features, then it looks like a waste of time, that work has been done.
Unfeatures technically. He wanted to remove features from the Default
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote:
Here, done, time elapsed: 1 min googling.
Great. But does this really solve anything except refuting the most
immediate statement by Lennart, taken out of context?
'Context' does not ameliorate a foundation
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Frank Ch. Eigler f...@redhat.com wrote:
It's tempting to carry this argument too far. We can be first with
good new ideas; first with experimental stuff; first with additions.
We need not be first with bad ideas (and discussions here are a way of
figuring out
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 03:13:28PM -0500, Billy Crook wrote:
I would love to see the day systemd is as polished, ubiquitous, and
robust as smtp. But until that happens, nobody is helped by removing
MTA from the default
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Also, though, please be aware that some individual sat down and installed
this system may not always be our main use case. All of these configure it
on install suggestions don't help us with the cloud image at all.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Since it _isn't_ served via DHCP in any environment I'm aware of, that's not
actually useful.
Nice to meet you Matt. As of this morning, it is served via DHCP in
mine. There's also that guy earlier in the thread.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:18:47AM -0500, Billy Crook wrote:
Since it _isn't_ served via DHCP in any environment I'm aware of, that's
not
actually useful.
Nice to meet you Matt. As of this morning
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Lennart Poettering
mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Fri, 19.07.13 13:17, Billy Crook (billycr...@gmail.com) wrote:
Sendmail stays in Default unless there is compelling reason to switch to
postfix, exim, meta1, etc. Those users who wish to remove it are welcome
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote:
On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 21:37 -0400, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
Exactly - adding to the minimal install is generally always a supported
operation. Removing from the minimal install is always a 'buyer
beware'
or 'you
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz wrote:
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com
wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail
Change owner(s): Lennart
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 07/19/2013 06:12 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
Progress does not that frequently depend on removing older
functionality. Specifically in this case, removing rsyslog does not
make journal in any way better.
On Jul 19, 2013 2:11 PM, Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com wrote:
On 07/19/2013 02:56 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 07/19/2013 06:45 PM, Billy Crook wrote:
I haven't seen anyone asking to ship two sysloggers.
I perhaps should have been clearer and say two logging systems which
we
On Jul 19, 2013 2:16 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said:
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Billy Crook billycr...@gmail.com
wrote:
Please voice yourself at meetings in #fedora-devel if this is
important to
you.
(Speaking purely for myself
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com wrote:
On 07/18/2013 08:09 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Wed, 17.07.13 22:35, Ding Yi Chen (dc...@redhat.com) wrote:
This should be simpler than forcing those stubborn mind (such as me) to
change,
No?
We don't
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Ding Yi Chen dc...@redhat.com wrote:
Don't tell me that you have not seen people writing multiple platform
scripts like this:
case $OS)
Windows* )
some_windows_scripts
..
Linux* )
grep /var/log/messages
.
For them:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.dewrote:
The journal is not an implementation of syslog, we already have that in
rsyslog. Also, the feature is about ending the duplicate storage of the
log messages, so your suggestion is completely against what the feature
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote:
Once upon a time, Billy Crook billycr...@gmail.com said:
What about a special filesystem mounted at /var/log or filesystem
trickery
therein that presents contents similar to what everyone expects, backed
out
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