Re: Backports of fixes from F32 -> F31?

2020-04-30 Thread Florian Müllner
Hey, On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 09:30, Alex Scheel wrote: And yeah, agreed. Backports are time consuming. But this is F31, not F30. There's at least another 6 months of support on this distro (technically...) and as referenced on that ticket, I'm not the only one that has hit it; there's ab

Re: [ACTION NEEDED] Missing BuildRequires: gcc/gcc-c++

2018-02-24 Thread Florian Müllner
Hey, On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > List of packages and respective maintainers: > https://ignatenkobrain.fedorapeople.org/gcc-removal-pkgs.txt Done: gnome-session gnome-shell-extensions(*) Cheers, Florian (*) accidentally, by changing build systems to meson which ins

Re: Gnome-shell crash with Nvidia drivers (fix available but not in Fedora 24 it seems)

2016-06-29 Thread Florian Müllner
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016, 16:50 Michael Catanzaro, wrote: > > Hey Florian, it looks like a good time for another 3.20 release; > Yeah, I had planned another 3.20 release for a while. 3.20.3 is now pending for testing: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-fb66c6e22c > -- devel mailing

Re: [HEADS UP][RAWHIDE]: Gnome broken in Rawhide

2015-11-26 Thread Florian Müllner
Should be fixed by http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=701581 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: does gnome have two sound volume settings?

2015-09-27 Thread Florian Müllner
On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:52 PM, kendell clark wrote: > There seems to be two different sound volumes. I'll demonstrate. > First, go into the sound settings panel in the control center. [...] > I hear: output volume: slider 31454 31 percent. If I check the same > thing on the top bar under setti

Re: GNOME glitches in F21 - Should they be reported and against which components?

2015-01-26 Thread Florian Müllner
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Florian Müllner > wrote: >> > After a little bit of testing, I can confirm that it happens with every app. > [...] > Do I file this against mutter? Yes please. >> The de

Re: GNOME glitches in F21 - Should they be reported and against which components?

2015-01-26 Thread Florian Müllner
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > A few days ago I upgraded my main workstation to F21 and I've noticed a few > annoying glitches, but I don't know if they are all worth reporting Yes. Glitches may be minor bugs, but bugs nonetheless. > 1. Window size and position:

Re: F22 System Wide Change: GNOME 3.16

2015-01-22 Thread Florian Müllner
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 22.01.2015 um 17:59 schrieb drago01: >> This is just a game > > keep your insults for yourself > maybe for you it is just a game That was not an insult, but was referring to the software in question, gnome-2048 - which is indeed a ga

Re: gnome-sudoku in F21

2014-09-13 Thread Florian Müllner
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > In gnome-sudoku (gnome-sudoku-3.13.90-3.fc21.x86_64) for F21 I'm missing > the feature allowing to print multiple unsolved sudokus. You should use a user list/forum for these kinds of questions, as it is not related to developing Fedora in

Re: unaccessability

2013-11-07 Thread Florian Müllner
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Perhaps instead of ignoring them entirely, you can just sort the results or > having > a secondary view "Click here for command line applications that match your > search > results" etc can be considered. I guess the main obstacle here is

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-07 Thread Florian Müllner
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > (My guess: Canonical will come up with their own Ubuntu App model requiring > Ubuntu technologies If you had read Lennart's previous reply to this thread, you'd be aware that they already did. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-04 Thread Florian Müllner
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Florian Müllner wrote: >> ... or users having to update their *entire* system to >> unstable/experimental versions if they want to try the lastest >> Firefox/Libreoffice/Eclipse > > Then either upstream or the Fedora

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-04 Thread Florian Müllner
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Nicolas Mailhot < nicolas.mail...@laposte.net> wrote: > GNOME decided to break it all the time (can't even get extensions work > from one gnome-shell version to the next one and no gracefully disabling > is still functional breakage). So what do you suggest? We can

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-04 Thread Florian Müllner
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:03 AM, drago01 wrote: > Firefox for instance could use that, or libreoffice, or eclipse. If a > user needs a newer version (or nightly build) without having upstream > worry about the specific distribution. ... or users having to update their *entire* system to unstable/

Re: OpenH264 in Fedora

2013-11-02 Thread Florian Müllner
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > The intention is that any parties capable of obtaining and running the > provided binaries[...] can have a fully licensed > implementation of H.264 at no cost. IANAL, but I am sure that this will not be included in any official Fedora repos

Re: Proposal: AppData files in all application packages?

2013-09-09 Thread Florian Müllner
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 06/09/2013 11:33, Richard Hughes a écrit : >> [1] http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/appdata/ > > I don't see any localization information in those specifications... From the above link: "Questions: [...] How do I translate this data?"

Re: Fedora 19 Gnome Desktop Touchscreen Usability

2013-07-04 Thread Florian Müllner
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Thomas Sailer wrote: > What is happening here? How can I get the shell to accept finger input too? It is fallout from the port to XInput2, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697192. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fed

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-06 Thread Florian Müllner
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > Another example of such important change that recently appeared without > recourse and much discussion is the lock screen: previously, the password > unlock widget had focus so one could start typing the password, while the > new behavior

Re: clock-applet memory leak

2013-04-23 Thread Florian Müllner
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > Since clock-applet is a default install on every Fedora, I thought this > would be widely reported While it is installed on every (default desktop spin) Fedora system, it is only used by the (non-default) GNOME fallback mode, which is li

Re: cogl soname bump

2013-01-25 Thread Florian Müllner
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > I'll work to rebuild associated deps now I just saw mutter and gnome-shell going by, thanks for taking care of that! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-18 Thread Florian Müllner
On Sep 18, 2012 2:56 PM, wrote: > Any ideas on the equivalent for KDM? No, sorry. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-18 Thread Florian Müllner
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Camilo Mesias wrote: > I always enable the feature but it is an ongoing annoyance that it is > disabled at GDM, is there any way to force it to default to on for the > whole system? I have the following in /etc/dconf/db/gdm.d/10-local-settings: [org/gnome/settin

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-28 Thread Florian Müllner
On Apr 27, 2012 11:34 PM, "Jared K. Smith" wrote: > Sorry Bill -- I'm confused here. Was a notification method actually > implemented? Was it enabled in F17.TC1? If so, I didn't see it. Or > was it implemented only for rawhide? It was implemented only in the sense that code was written and po

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-20 Thread Florian Müllner
On Apr 20, 2012 11:55 AM, "Jiri Eischmann" wrote: > The notification is nice, but the only job it does is that it says the > live system is installable. It really doesn't help the user find out how > to install it. The notification contains a button which is labeled "Install". I don't think users

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-20 Thread Florian Müllner
Hey, On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: > I tried that out. For some reason the notification doesn't pop up after I > run the program, is that intended? No, it should be shown in "banner mode" like in http://imgur.com/Gk1Az(that's a screenshot of running the unmodified progra

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-19 Thread Florian Müllner
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > In effect it may necessitate a reboot to get that notification back, in > order to know how to install? > Not if the notification is resident, in which case it will remain in the message tray even after it has been acknowledged by the user.

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-02 Thread Florian Müllner
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Florian Müllner wrote: > > It is not implemented with XEmbed. > > If the user runs non-GNOME software which tries to bring up a system tray > icon, it is. The discussion was about GNOME shell's top bar. No applicatio

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-02 Thread Florian Müllner
On jue, 2012-02-02 at 20:17 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > And the thing is, renaming "Tooltip" to "Description" will break all the > existing implementations and provide no benefit whatsoever to the end user. > It's just an internal identifier the user will never see. For all I care it > could be

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-02 Thread Florian Müllner
On jue, 2012-02-02 at 20:11 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Florian Müllner wrote: > > I actually agree to that - if we used the notifier spec in the top bar, > > we would either compromise on the intended experience, or provide a > > crappy implementation. Or in other words: t

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-02 Thread Florian Müllner
On jue, 2012-02-02 at 01:16 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Then your implementation in gnome-shell would just be half-assed and crappy, > just like your implementation of the XEmbed-based spec is. Unlike the > XEmbed-based spec, the status notifier spec actually allows apps to specify > whether th

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-02 Thread Florian Müllner
On jue, 2012-02-02 at 00:44 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> So the argument that you're refusing to implement a cross-desktop > >> protocol in order to ban random applications from adding themselves to > >> the panel is bogus. > > > > Nobody said tha

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-02 Thread Florian Müllner
On jue, 2012-02-02 at 01:28 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Florian Müllner wrote: > > No, but it would require that "circle" is drawn as circle and not a > > square (or just discarded without notice). The NotifyIcon spec > > explicitly allows either absurdity. > &g

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-02 Thread Florian Müllner
On mié, 2012-02-01 at 17:00 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Yay cross-desktop maybe, but still a freaking disaster from a UI point > of view, and the only thing I really dislike about GNOME 3 I don't think it's that bad, but that might just be me having different use patterns (for instance a comm

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-02 Thread Florian Müllner
On jue, 2012-02-02 at 05:26 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Because it is the job of people who are proposing a spec to answer the > > objections of the people who perform critical analysis of the spec > > They did answer. You just didn't like their answer. Their answer wa

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-01 Thread Florian Müllner
On mié, 2012-02-01 at 23:00 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Are you going to require a spec on drawing circles to specify that the > circumference of the circle must be between 355/113-2^-21 and 355/113 > times its diameter? No, but it would require that "circle" is drawn as circle and not a square

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-01 Thread Florian Müllner
On mié, 2012-02-01 at 22:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > So the argument that you're refusing to implement a cross-desktop protocol > in order to ban random applications from adding themselves to the panel is > bogus. No, the argument for refusing to implement the protocol is that the spec is ba

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-01 Thread Florian Müllner
On mié, 2012-02-01 at 18:25 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > The objections weren't addressed because they objected to the very point of > the spec, making it impossible to address them without defeating the purpose > of the spec. > > One main design goal of the spec was that it should NOT be the ap

Re: Unity For Fedora (As in OpenSUSE or Arch)

2012-02-01 Thread Florian Müllner
On mié, 2012-02-01 at 12:01 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > GNOME never gave an opinion on the spec, we gave an opinion on the > library, which was really just a huge pile of bugs (I know, they patched > a bunch of the applications I maintain, and I get to receive a large > number of crashers becaus

Re: Rolling release Fedora - fantastic idea

2012-01-29 Thread Florian Müllner
On dom, 2012-01-29 at 22:57 +, Noah Hall wrote: > I'd love for Fedora become rolling simply because messing around > with preupgrade and reinstalling is oh so tedious and a waste of my > time. Why do you think more people are using Ubuntu for development? Whatever their reasons might be, Ubunt

Re: A software center for Fedora

2011-11-25 Thread Florian Müllner
While I agree that our app-install story sucks, I'm far less convinced that we need yet-another-downstream solution. Florian -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-06 Thread Florian Müllner
On dom, 2011-11-06 at 22:42 +, Bojan Smojver wrote: > The existence of all those extensions that bring back sanity (apps menu in > normal view, workspaces in normal view, persistent dash for switching tasks in > normal view etc.) is the proof of the ultimate irony - the (supposedly) > biggest

Re: systemd: Is it wrong?

2011-07-11 Thread Florian Müllner
2011/7/11 Steve Dickson > > Hmm? Shell only understands strings, too. What precisely are you asking > for? > in /etc/sysconfig/nfsservices > set LOCKD_TCPPORT=234 > > In nfsservice.service > > EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/nfsservices > ExecStartPre=/sbin/sysctl -w $LOCKD_TCPPORT > > to work.

Re: systemd: Is it wrong? -> wrong order

2011-07-11 Thread Florian Müllner
2011/7/11 Reindl Harald > my main critic on systemd shipped als default with F15 is that > widely used services like NFS are not converted to systemd > BEFORE systemd replaced upstart > Given that Fedora only used upstart with existing SysV scripts, upstart should not have been included in the f