App Installer Miniconf

2011-01-27 Thread FlorianFesti
As you already may have read there was a cross distro meeting in Nürnberg about a shared app installer effort. For me - who didn't even know about the meeting two weeks in advance - the main concern was what kind of people would be there and how we ever could get to an agreement on anything.

Showing packages installed on the system: show-installed

2010-12-07 Thread FlorianFesti
Hi everyone! During Richard Hughes' Linux and application installing thread[1] I had argued that just showing a list of packages won't cut it for most use cases around package handling. One of those use cases is showing which packages are installed on a system. For getting an idea about a

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread FlorianFesti
On 10/05/2010 10:35 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: No, I think what we need to do is to teach GPM how to turn off the internal panel when docked and with the lid closed. The only missing piece is for the kernel to export some kind of sysfs boolean saying in-dock. From talks with mjg59, detecting

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-05 Thread FlorianFesti
On 10/05/2010 03:15 PM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: If the lid is open, both output should be enabled by default (you are free to manually disable one). If the lid is closed on battery power the system should suspend (unless you choose otherwise in GPM prefs). I wonder if there are latops

Re: Linux and application installing - screen shots of UI mock up

2010-09-27 Thread FlorianFesti
Ok, I made some screen shots. It's a bit easier to understand if you see it actually working. They should still give you a idea. Looking at the PackageDB tags, filtering for the Office and Qt tags: http://fedorapeople.org/~ffesti/screenshots/PackageDBTags.gif Filtering for the GNOME menu tag

Re: Linux and application installing - a second perspective

2010-09-24 Thread FlorianFesti
On 09/23/2010 06:09 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 15:51:37 +0200, FlorianFestiffe...@redhat.com wrote: 1) Comps groups. Not even used by PK to the full extend. Nevertheless several groups are huge with over 100 packages (winner being Games with over 300). Sorry, 100

Linux and application installing - a second perspective

2010-09-23 Thread FlorianFesti
Sorry, for showing up late at the party. This mail should have been part of Richard's thread with the same topic but things took a while until they were ready enough to be presented here. There is a long history of package installers in Fedora (and it's predecessors). It feels like roughly

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-17 Thread FlorianFesti
On 09/16/2010 09:05 PM, Colin Walters wrote: (I don't have a strong opinion on whether the data format is RPM or repodata myself; maybe just a slight preference for the latter; the most important thing in my mind is to come to rough consensus and working code, and actually ship something) It

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-17 Thread FlorianFesti
On 09/17/2010 05:05 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 17 September 2010 13:36, Arthur Pembertonpem...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't that require the tool to download every package just to get the embedded information. Yes, that's what my generator tool does. Of course, it only downloads the

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-16 Thread FlorianFesti
On 09/15/2010 04:38 PM, FlorianFesti wrote: [Show/Hide Details] Btw: If you do that right and save the state of this button in the user's home you can make beginners and power users happy without much UI overhead. Power users would just have to push the button once to get their beloved

Re: Linux and application installing

2010-09-15 Thread FlorianFesti
While showing the user applications instead of packages might be a good idea for several use cases I think this approach misses the point here. The questions for redesigning the Updater dialog should be: What's the user supposed to decide and what information does he need to do so? The