Re: docbook and glibc breakage?

2010-09-27 Thread Jesse Keating
Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 September 2010 19:58, Jaroslav Skarvada jskar...@redhat.com wrote: The character class must be inside bracketed expression, thus double brackets, please see man grep. The new grep-2.7 checks

Re: Fedora backports repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-22 Thread Jesse Keating
proposing rawhide for productive systems (or even database servers *shrug*). - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Re: Fedora backports repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-22 Thread Jesse Keating
people have a right to expect updates to land quickly. I think the idea is to apply an AutoQA filter between the builds and showing up in rawhide, not applying a bunch of human tester filters and bodhi. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

Re: Fedora backports repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-22 Thread Jesse Keating
to actually publish a rawhide-testing repo. Just rawhide. If a package passes autoqa, let it in. If a maintainer waives the autoqa failure, let it in. I really don't want to run bodhi on rawhide. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN

Re: Fedora backports repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-22 Thread Jesse Keating
that is in -pending and not in rawhide yet. Insert some magic here. It isn't going to be perfect, but it'll definitely be better than what we have now. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment

Re: Fedora backports repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-22 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/22/2010 05:07 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 17:05:30 +0200, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: It isn't going to be perfect, but it'll definitely be better than what we have now. The other case to consider

Re: Fedora backports repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-21 Thread Jesse Keating
could go get the new firefox from Mozilla (or somebody else who builds a more Fedora suitable version for you). - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora

Re: yet another git problem

2010-09-17 Thread Jesse Keating
then your merge will complete. - -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://jkeating.livejournal.com) Fedora Project (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) identi.ca (http://identi.ca/jkeating) -BEGIN PGP

Re: 15 or rawhide?

2010-09-16 Thread Jesse Keating
. This has been changed back, not sure if abrt reads that value or not. The question I have for the abrt folks, is there any code that would lead to a bug being filed for rawhide? If so, how is that code triggered? - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca

Re: Broadcom wifi drivers in F-14?

2010-09-14 Thread Jesse Keating
pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know if the new Broadcom drivers are in a state where they would be in the Fedora 14 kernel? I've seen the release but i've not seen any comment as to the state of them other than they already support mac80211. These are

Re: Broadcom wifi drivers in F-14?

2010-09-14 Thread Jesse Keating
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/14/2010 08:33 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update. That's what I suspected as it seems to be the norm for vendor code dumps. It is nevertheless a massive step forward. I heard OEM systems were favouring other, even slightly

Re: Simultaneous Fedora and upstream git usage

2010-09-13 Thread Jesse Keating
be a configuration that lives on your workstation, in your clone, not something pushed up to pkgs.fp.o. It would certainly help in getting patches to/from upstream, and help when we start exploring automated patch management within packages. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature

Re: Simultaneous Fedora and upstream git usage

2010-09-13 Thread Jesse Keating
than other version controls (imagine checking out Qt's repository to do a one liner change to the spec file). This is something slightly different than what Andy was talking about, and it is still on the horizon. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca

Re: Simultaneous Fedora and upstream git usage

2010-09-13 Thread Jesse Keating
anything with it. fedpkg can be made to look for such a tag when you ask it to create an upstream for that project, and if it doesn't find one in the spec prompt the user for one, or just fail and ask that the user supply one with whatever command they were running. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-09-01 i386

2010-09-07 Thread Jesse Keating
have bigger systems, just more of them. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Re: fedpkg prep

2010-09-03 Thread Jesse Keating
. The fedpkg build command takes a --target (with --scratch) which will tell it to use a different target. scratch-build has this too. This should allow you to test with something that has already been pushed, or by creating srpms and passing those to fedpkg (scratch-)build. - -- Jesse Keating

Re: Please remember to update rawhide

2010-09-02 Thread Jesse Keating
to stable. Which is why this shouldn't be the policy. Rawhide should inherit the latest completed build. It's rawhide, after all. regards, tom lane Please see the ticket for why that is not an easy thing to do. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature

Re: fedpkg prep

2010-09-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/1/10 7:17 PM, Matt McCutchen wrote: On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 09:00 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On 8/31/10 5:36 PM, Roland McGrath wrote: Perhaps local and so forth could be given a --dist=foo switch, and these sorts of errors could say can't

Re: fedpkg prep

2010-09-01 Thread Jesse Keating
tells me what upstream Fedora/RHEL branch you're tracking, which tells me how to set the macros. It's only when you aren't tracking a remote branch that things go south. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-31 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/31/10 5:33 AM, Matt McCutchen wrote: On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 22:08 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: Developers put new features in rawhide knowing that they will be in the next release of Fedora, which would be at the /most/ 6 months from the time

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-31 Thread Jesse Keating
. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx9IhwACgkQ4v2HLvE71NXnpgCfcso2mCew20a1ERPE31+jJg4z

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-31 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/31/10 9:40 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: An update that changes behavior for the end user would never be acceptable as an update to a stable release. Only severe

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-31 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/31/10 9:40 AM, Thomas Moschny wrote: 2010/8/31 Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net: An update that changes behavior for the end user would never be acceptable as an update to a stable release. Only severe exceptions should be made

Re: fedpkg prep

2010-08-31 Thread Jesse Keating
commands out of the PacakgeModule class. We could catch this and not care unless we are doing a git action. Either way, in this case your git repo does seem kinda broken, and you might want to fix that. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

Re: fedpkg prep

2010-08-31 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/31/10 4:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On 8/31/10 3:48 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: Just curious Why does 'fedpkg prep' care that the repo is in an inconsistent state? I just did a rebase to the latest f14 code on a private branch. So yes

Re: fedpkg prep

2010-08-31 Thread Jesse Keating
. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx9nasACgkQ4v2HLvE71NVg7wCfWU/Mk5t/ExabTAkQzil23FA0 r+oAoLHXLjiyhS9QP5iiQdGXoq9

Re: Creating a rawhide/f15 private kernel branch

2010-08-31 Thread Jesse Keating
Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com wrote: $ git push origin origin/master:refs/heads/f15/user/steved/pnfs-f15Total 0 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0) remote: C refs/heads/f15/user/steved/pnfs-f15 steved DENIED by refs/heads/f[0-9][0-9] remote: error: hook declined to update

Re: Creating a rawhide/f15 private kernel branch

2010-08-31 Thread Jesse Keating
Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net wrote: IIUC, the f15/ namespace will not exist until F15 is branched. You should just push to refs/heads/user/steved/pnfs-f15 . Or use -rawhide, since master always builds for rawhide. -- Sent from my Android phone. Please excuse my brevity. -- devel

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
/detail?id=2240 - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx71K0ACgkQ4v2HLvE71NVLWACfWbB1EJwwmKJvRil3O3L30bgw

Re: Starting Java SIG

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
, and then diverged without contributing back, or even communicating with them. A more tight relationship when possible between the jpackage version of a package and ours, and the jpackage maintainer and ours would go a long way to help. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
amount of trying to shadow corporate employees with community (what does that even mean?) making any amount of difference on this point. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/28/2010 09:25 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: The cynic in me would expect that the people who want something different than the fire hose we have now are silently leaving, and those that are left are going to say they like

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
Thomas Janssen thom...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/28/2010 09:25 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: The cynic in me would expect that the people who want

Re: Request compose of image for Software Review UI from Releng

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/f14-translation/ which will be mirrored to http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/f14-translation/ Remember that once booted to these images you can yum update and get newer builds of content from updates-testing to verify translations. - -- Jesse

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
paced and amazing. I just want to keep that hard work relevant 1, 2, and 13 months after we make that release. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/30/10 1:33 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: Is this still unique? I believe it is, particularly with our attention to freedom and upstream relationships, and our connection to arguably /the/ premiere enterprise Linux offering. - -- Jesse Keating

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/30/10 1:06 PM, Sven Lankes wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:36:42PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: Why not give QA the time to settle and find out how the new things work out? Because the likes of Kevin throw fits whenever we try to insert

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
no longer apply to the operating system after 3 months of updates. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
on it and make it even better by the time the next branch event happens and we spin off a release. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/30/10 9:50 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/30/10 1:33 PM, Arthur Pemberton wrote: Is this still unique? I

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Keating
wouldn't like to see is dragging in a brand new xorg major release and kernel major release and dri major release in order to make that happen. Do you see a difference there? - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: F14 evolution restore

2010-08-29 Thread Jesse Keating
Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote: When doing a fresh F14 install (tonight), and starting evolution for first time and doing a restore, it didn't seem to convert my filters nor addressbook, or at least to the proper locations. I got he filters.xml copied over to i think the

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100828 changes

2010-08-28 Thread Jesse Keating
James Cassell fedoraproj...@cyberpear.com wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:00:07 -0400, Branched Report rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Removed package: pastebin-0.60-6.fc12 Why has this been removed? It was removed because it was orphaned and nobody took ownership. -- Sent from my

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-28 Thread Jesse Keating
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/28/2010 05:31 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 17:16:12 +, \Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\johan...@gmail.com wrote: It's not far from reality that Red Hat will get bought by a company like Oracle so what's preventing

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-28 Thread Jesse Keating
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/28/2010 06:42 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: This is utter bullshit. It assumes that anybody who works in the corporate world and happens to have an interest in Fedora is somehow going to be a puppet for the Smokey backroom corporate

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-28 Thread Jesse Keating
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/28/2010 08:28 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: What are you afraid of? I think my concerns have been very clear. Fedora is not a country, you don't have to move to get away. All the code is free. Most the code isn't even ours, it belongs

Re: systemd v8 for rawhide?

2010-08-27 Thread Jesse Keating
/ in -candidate. What side effects this might have on the rest of the system I don't know at this point, but messing with our tag structure is not something to be taken lightly. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: New fedpkg build coming to an update repo near you!

2010-08-27 Thread Jesse Keating
Mattias Ellert mattias.ell...@fysast.uu.se wrote: tor 2010-08-26 klockan 13:27 -0700 skrev Jesse Keating: Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: Jesse Keating, Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:44:34 -0700: I just submitted updates for el5 and f1{2,3,4} as well as a build for rawhide (f15) of a new

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-27 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/27/2010 02:43 AM, Thomas Moschny wrote: 2010/8/27 Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net: That's strange. I use it on my laptop, which has a caching local DNS server (dnsmasq) and it works just fine. I do have a script in /etc

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-27 Thread Jesse Keating
Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 17:54 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 16:37 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: Ah yes, attack the symptom and not the disease. Yay. Let me let you in on a secret. Most people (and by which I mean, those not on

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-27 Thread Jesse Keating
Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 15:47 -0700, Bob Arendt wrote: I think it would be much better for Fedora to decide what it *should* be, specifically what the Fedora userspace should be, and excel at that. Don't follow the market or worry about being the

Re: New fedpkg build coming to an update repo near you!

2010-08-26 Thread Jesse Keating
Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: Jesse Keating, Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:44:34 -0700: I just submitted updates for el5 and f1{2,3,4} as well as a build for rawhide (f15) of a new fedpkg build. Here is a summary from the rpm: EL6? -- A build, and a later build, was done for el6. -- Sent

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-26 Thread Jesse Keating
and vpn bring up to make adjustments to the running local DNS server (which seems easier with NM than it would be with the old scripts). - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-26 Thread Jesse Keating
Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Once upon a time, Garrett Holmstrom gho...@fedoraproject.org said: While it may be debatable what benefit one might get from removing it from the default install, can we at least remove MTAs from @core to help make things easier for appliance folks?

Re: git rebase OK on Fedora git branches?

2010-08-25 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/25/10 3:45 AM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: Excerpts from Daniel P. Berrange's message of Wed Aug 25 11:08:16 +0200 2010: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:34:36AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/24/10

New fedpkg build coming to an update repo near you!

2010-08-24 Thread Jesse Keating
-packager-0.5.1.3-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-packager-0.5.1.3-1.fc12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-packager-0.5.1.3-1.el5 Those are the bodhi links. Testing + karma would be appreciated! - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-24 Thread Jesse Keating
Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/24/2010 02:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Chris Adams wrote: What do we gain by not having any MTA installed (other than a little bit of disk space)? I understand that a little bit of disk space can add up quick, but a local queueing MTA is a

Re: Bodhi updates

2010-08-24 Thread Jesse Keating
is testing / stability atomic / equal across the branches. While the f13 package may work fine, the f12 build may have severe problems. They need to be treated individually. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: New fedpkg build coming to an update repo near you!

2010-08-24 Thread Jesse Keating
a clone, apparently it didn't get tested with clone - -B. Fix pushed and will be in the next build. BTW if anybody wants to help write up a test suite for fedpkg, I'd really really love you! - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP

Re: git rebase OK on Fedora git branches?

2010-08-24 Thread Jesse Keating
you're doing a scratch build. commit and push are very thin wrappers over the git equivs. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http

Re: Bodhi updates

2010-08-24 Thread Jesse Keating
the f14 update and found it OK, that would give you the right to push the update for every branch, regardless of testing results (or the lack thereof) on the other branches. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: systemd acceptance, packaging guidelines (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-08-24 Thread Jesse Keating
only what the rolled-back configuration is, not how it will be tested. Sounds like good feedback for the feature wrangler and for FESCo as far as what they might require in contingency plan sections. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-24 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/24/10 2:13 PM, Till Maas wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 01:15:54PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: Because generally whats on the mainboard (or in the laptop) works. If it didn't work, the first reaction isn't Oh I need to go buy a better one

Re: systemd and filesystems with noauto

2010-08-23 Thread Jesse Keating
that made it easy to mount certain things manually when it was convenient and/or safe for the user to do so? I think adding more flexibility is interesting, but not at the cost of changing (rather drastically) the semantics of an established option. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-23 Thread Jesse Keating
. Unlike the old days if you missed one release you had to wait months before trying again, we now are able to give you a development tree for the next release immediately. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-23 Thread Jesse Keating
an opinion on that front. I'm just trying to show that /if/ it was decided that F14 was a no-go for systemd, all is not lost and development+testing can continue in the F15 tree. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: systemd and changes

2010-08-23 Thread Jesse Keating
a slip until systemd can pass the do or die test set. Either way, clearly mark the goals, let Lennart shoot for them. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG

Re: Testing zsh completion for fedpkg

2010-08-23 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/30/10 9:34 PM, Ben Boeckel wrote: I'd like to get some wider testing on it than what I subjected it to. Constructive criticism welcome. Did you ever get testing on this? - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Jesse Keating
a troll b) you're a troll He's not actually a troll, and that was not very excellent. Google Wave has indeed been shut down. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/update-on-google-wave.html - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP

Re: Creating private branches under fedpkg/git

2010-08-18 Thread Jesse Keating
with f13/master. However, since git allows you to create local branches at will without any restrictions, one has to ask if it is still necessary to have a remote branch for your work. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

2010-08-18 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/5/10 8:02 AM, Paul Howarth wrote: On 02/08/10 20:53, Jesse Keating wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 11:55 AM, Adam Goode wrote: Didn't want this to get lost, thanks for fixing this on IRC, but I don't have

Re: fedpkg local redefines %fedora macro

2010-08-18 Thread Jesse Keating
in the latest build of fedpkg. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Re: package not tagged as an update candidate [again]

2010-08-17 Thread Jesse Keating
a package from a branch. When you get this message, that either means you are referencing a build that has not been done, has not been complete yet, or has otherwise already been moved around within Koji tags. I do agree that the error wording could be better. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom

Re: Checkout entire release with git

2010-08-17 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/17/10 1:07 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 08/16/2010 03:01 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/16/10 1:38 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: Is it possible to checkout an entire Fedora release now with git? I

Re: Checkout entire release with git

2010-08-17 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/17/10 2:12 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 08/17/2010 02:28 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: If you're able to create a long term ssh socket to the git server you could re-use the connection and save a significant portion of the connection overhead

Re: Checkout entire release with git

2010-08-16 Thread Jesse Keating
no longer create the hack that made this possible. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-14 Thread Jesse Keating
New packages can break existing systems. Leak ram, eat filesystems, leak personal data, leak root, dos a system, etc... -- Sent from my Android phone. Please excuse my brevity, lack of trimming, and top posting. Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-08-14 at 19:14 +0200,

Re: Mailing list guidelines and smartphones

2010-08-14 Thread Jesse Keating
Kofler I'm still looking for an android email client that allows me to place the reply below the quoted text. I guess an alternative is to delete the entire quoted text... - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: Mailing list guidelines and smartphones

2010-08-14 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/14/2010 08:50 PM, inode0 wrote: On Saturday, August 14, 2010, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: I'm still looking for an android email client that allows me to place the reply below the quoted text. I guess an alternative is to delete

Re: Staying close to upstream

2010-08-13 Thread Jesse Keating
. For core components such as the kernel and our web browser, this does not seem like a bad thing at all. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Jesse Keating
This is where Kevin blames the scenario on not having the same sqlite on all of the Fedora releases, which is another evil plot hatched by the devils of FESCo seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 18:07 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Al Dunsmuir wrote: You are

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Jesse Keating
Doing so would have changed behavior and broken software that relied upon that behavior. Sounds like a great way to run the distro Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: seth vidal wrote: and that's what the testing helped with. The bug was noticed. It was patched upstream to

Re: New bodhi release in production

2010-08-13 Thread Jesse Keating
different software versions and act different in real life ways. This is just the current example. -- Sent from my Android phone. Please excuse my brevity, lack of trimming, and top posting. Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: Doing so would have changed behavior

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/12/2010 12:42 AM, Andreas Schwab wrote: Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: When an F14 build goes stable through bodhi, it'll be inherited into rawhide. Unless there is already a release of the package tagged dist-f15, IIUC

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-12 Thread Jesse Keating
we be more conservative? If you expect the developers to do this on their own, good luck. If you want there to be some sort of enforcement I welcome suggestions. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-12 Thread Jesse Keating
everything through bodhi like we do at the branch) We can ask and say pretty please, but I suspect as long as the buildsystem allows it, crap will still crash land at the last possible moment. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha RC3 Available Now!

2010-08-12 Thread Jesse Keating
, and in this case they seem to be favoring sticking close to upstream as opposed to throwing in code willy nilly because it looks cool. Upstream has a code review process for a reason. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Jesse Keating
the to-be-released distro and rawhide? What happened to that? When an F14 build goes stable through bodhi, it'll be inherited into rawhide. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux

Re: Fedora 14 branching and dist-git roll out

2010-08-06 Thread Jesse Keating
thinking about making fedpkg push operations follow the behavior of pushing to the remote branch you're tracking. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG

Re: Broken package EOL instructions (Was Re: Retire gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux in F14/devel?)

2010-08-06 Thread Jesse Keating
be an opportunity to re-think the end of life actions, and perhaps there is something we can do with git hooks that can alert a cloner about the package being EOL on certain branches, but don't mess with the content within, in case the package gets brought back to life. Discuss - -- Jesse Keating Fedora

Re: Removing branch for package without ACL permission

2010-08-05 Thread Jesse Keating
a person with ACL permission (e.g. SDL owner) is able to do so. Is it intentional feature or just a not yet resolved issue? -- Petr The ACL system might be confused based on the name of that accidental branch. I've deleted it for you directly on the git server. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-05 Thread Jesse Keating
be better. Admittedly I didn't spend a lot of time on -B as I don't necessarily like there being two official ways of working with your git repos. It makes documentation and helping people harder. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN

Re: RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
and see if that does any better. I'll work on that once we figure out this ACL issue. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users. Language such as this is not being excellent to each other. It's unnecessarily antagonistic. Please stop. - -- Jesse

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
to be civil on our public lists. We're trying to create a welcoming friendly environment here, where it's OK to have disagreements without resorting to insults and antagonism. Either be a part of that, or move along. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca

Re: RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 11:55 AM, Adam Goode wrote: Didn't want this to get lost, thanks for fixing this on IRC, but I don't have an f14 branch now. Got that fixed for ya. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxXIuEACgkQ4v2HLvE71NUHuQCfZe6BndUC4m9LmY3y1dVW9qf9

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-testing.) The report does not cover updates-testing. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Re: Fedora 14 has been branched!

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxXUpcACgkQ4v2HLvE71NWVmwCdE6Su0yqbPR1ZJJLTb/Mgr65d eaoAoJH/hLRVGIcw87Ym

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxXWWkACgkQ4v2HLvE71NV9SQCeKL50F3iibsquSlwDGJ595wM5 SmUAniE+6rf25VAF7KRub+V

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