Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Nader Nooryani
In hindsight, both of my comments were hastily posted to this discussion. It wasn't very constructive and I apologize for this. I do believe that this proposed change is being considered with the best intentions for both the user and Fedora. Could we see an example of the text/telemetry

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Nader Nooryani
> Assuming the goal is to improve fedora, that would be pointless as > telemetry rarely produces useful results as opt-in. It makes sense to have > it opt-out, but I'd expect the telemetry output and inputs to be open and > available for fedora developers. > > Regards, > Nikos > > > On Thu, Jul

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Nader Nooryani
> Remember, for avoidance of doubt, we will NEVER enable telemetry upload > without the user's consent, which is indicated by either (a) not > flipping the telemetry switch in gnome-initial-setup to the off > position, or (b) flipping the telemetry switch in gnome-control-center > to the on

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Nader Nooryani
> On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 07:42:47 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour > > The problem is if users are expected to answer, they are going to > probably answer No and it's effectively the same as an opt-in. But if > we have a default value, users will be inclined to leave the default > value. > > My