Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-15 Thread John Florian
On 3/13/19 8:41 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: That said, I think if we want to move the repo files now, we should also consider making so package installed repo and GPG files are in /usr/share and that admin additions/overrides can be stored in /etc. Same goes for vars and other such stuff. That's more

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-15 Thread Michal Domonkos
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 3:39 PM John M. Harris, Jr. wrote: > > `rpm` does not care what repositories your system has available, it doesn't > work with them directly. That name would make no sense. I guess the rationale behind that was more of a "repositories of rpm packages" than "repositories u

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-15 Thread John M. Harris, Jr.
`rpm` does not care what repositories your system has available, it doesn't work with them directly. That name would make no sense. On March 15, 2019 6:31:40 AM EDT, "Samuel Rakitničan" wrote: >> If anything of the like, /etc/dnf.repos.d makes more sense. These >repos are not >> necessarily par

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-15 Thread Peter Robinson
> Hi, > I am curious whether we can move our repo files from > /etc/yum.repos.d > to > /etc/distro.repos.d > > In Fedora 31 we are going to wipe away last left overs of YUM, so it really > does not have sense to keep `yum.repos.d`. > > DNF for ages parse config files from: > {"/etc/yum.repos

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-15 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 3/15/19 12:32 PM, Michal Domonkos wrote: That said, if we should pick a different name today, "yum" seems like the most sensible choice. While still far from ideal, it has stickiness within the Fedora/RHEL community, and is a "trademark", really. Yesterday's Updater Modified :-) -- Robe

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-15 Thread Michal Domonkos
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 11:32 AM Samuel Rakitničan wrote: > Please don't tie the name with the particular software to avoid this issue in > the future. If you must then I think rpm.repos.d is less likely to avoid this > issue in the future. +1 Just like a few others have mentioned in this thre

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-15 Thread Samuel Rakitničan
> If anything of the like, /etc/dnf.repos.d makes more sense. These repos are > not > necessarily part of the distro. Please don't tie the name with the particular software to avoid this issue in the future. If you must then I think rpm.repos.d is less likely to avoid this issue in the future.

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-15 Thread Michal Domonkos
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 11:56 AM Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Renaming dnf to yum is IMHO the best option. > I constantly use the wrong tool when switching between Fedora and Centos, > and the painful "yum.repos.d" string issue (code + docs) would disappear. Actually, we're planning [1] to rename the

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-14 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 3/13/19 6:10 PM, Björn Persson wrote: It was discussed on this list last June. The renaming to DNF never happened in RHEL/CentOS. It's Yum in RHEL 7 and (I hear) it will be Yum in RHEL 8. Presumably the reason for this is that the sysadmins who manage RHEL systems like continuity, dislike poi

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Rex Dieter
Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: > Why not /etc/dnf/repos.d and a symlink for /etc/yum.repos.d? Please no, that will introduce it's own set of problems as well. -- Rex ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to deve

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2019-03-13 at 13:38 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Hi, > I am curious whether we can move our repo files from > /etc/yum.repos.d > to > /etc/distro.repos.d > > In Fedora 31 we are going to wipe away last left overs of YUM, so it really > does not have sense to keep `yum.repos.d`. > >

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 08:51, Kalev Lember wrote: > > Also, I've heard rumours that dnf might get renamed back to yum in the > future. > I just hope that dnf gets renamed to something easier. It doesn't stick as good as yum, apt or pacman. Anything other than yum will be a lot of work though. Orc

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread John M. Harris, Jr.
If anything of the like, /etc/dnf.repos.d makes more sense. These repos are not necessarily part of the distro. On March 13, 2019 11:46:12 AM EDT, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: >On 3/13/19 4:03 PM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:50 AM, Kalev Lember >> wrote: >>> Please

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Björn Persson
mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:50 AM, Kalev Lember > wrote: > > Also, I've heard rumours that dnf might get renamed back to yum in the > > future. > > Do the dnf developers know about this rumor...? In recent Fedora releases DNF has stopped complaining when it's invok

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Björn Persson
Miroslav Suchý wrote: > I am curious whether we can move our repo files from > /etc/yum.repos.d > to > /etc/distro.repos.d Please, no. Sysadmins don't like having to change their habits, scripts and documents for no benefit because somebody renamed something just for the sake of renaming. Poin

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo
On 3/13/19 4:03 PM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:50 AM, Kalev Lember > wrote: >> Please don't, it's just pointless renaming that invalidates all end user >> documentation and makes it harder for other programs such as packagekit >> and gnome-software that all need to ado

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Ben Rosser
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:37 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 13. 03. 19 v 13:50 Kalev Lember napsal(a): > > Please don't, it's just pointless renaming that invalidates all end user > > documentation and makes it harder for other programs such as packagekit > > and gnome-software that all need to

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread mcatanzaro
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:50 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: Please don't, it's just pointless renaming that invalidates all end user documentation and makes it harder for other programs such as packagekit and gnome-software that all need to adopt for the new paths. Handling a rename is not exactly

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
Le mer. 13 mars 2019 à 13:39, Miroslav Suchý a écrit : > > Hi, > I am curious whether we can move our repo files from > /etc/yum.repos.d > to > /etc/distro.repos.d I don't see the point to "change" this directory for "pleasure" if it doesn't come with more features. Right now yum.repos.d shou

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Richard Hughes
On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 14:37, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 13. 03. 19 v 13:50 Kalev Lember napsal(a): > > ..makes it harder for other programs such as packagekit > > and gnome-software that all need to adopt for the new paths. > Not exactly true. It's completely true, Kalev is spot on. GNOME Sof

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 13. 03. 19 v 13:50 Kalev Lember napsal(a): > Please don't, it's just pointless renaming that invalidates all end user > documentation and makes it harder for other programs such as packagekit > and gnome-software that all need to adopt for the new paths. Not exactly true. When documentaion st

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 13. 03. 19 v 14:03 Dridi Boukelmoune napsal(a): > Why not /etc/dnf/repos.d and a symlink for /etc/yum.repos.d? Currently DNF reads both of them. So you will end with duplicate repositories, because DNF would see them twice. Miroslav ___ devel maili

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 1:42 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 8:39 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I am curious whether we can move our repo files from > > /etc/yum.repos.d > > to > > /etc/distro.repos.d Why not /etc/dnf/repos.d and a symlink for /etc/yum.repos.d? >

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Kalev Lember
On 3/13/19 13:38, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Hi, I am curious whether we can move our repo files from /etc/yum.repos.d to /etc/distro.repos.d In Fedora 31 we are going to wipe away last left overs of YUM, so it really does not have sense to keep `yum.repos.d`. DNF for ages parse config files

Re: /etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 8:39 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Hi, > I am curious whether we can move our repo files from > /etc/yum.repos.d > to > /etc/distro.repos.d > > In Fedora 31 we are going to wipe away last left overs of YUM, so it really > does not have sense to keep `yum.repos.d`. > > D

/etc/yum.repos.d -> /etc/distro.repos.d

2019-03-13 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Hi, I am curious whether we can move our repo files from /etc/yum.repos.d to /etc/distro.repos.d In Fedora 31 we are going to wipe away last left overs of YUM, so it really does not have sense to keep `yum.repos.d`. DNF for ages parse config files from: {"/etc/yum.repos.d", "/etc/yum/repos