Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Jon Masters
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 00:48 -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Jon Masters j...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 00:52 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day today Friday July

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Jon Masters j...@redhat.com wrote: We're going to deliver one after this armv7hl bootstrap. What we're going to do is get koji running with a minimal mock (or even once we get to just mock) and then re-run the bootstrap scripts automatically/rebuild the RPMs

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Matt Domsch
On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:45:33PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: It's becoming clear that several points do need raising with FESCo: * Fedora should (IMO) institute mandatory mass rebuilds. Either every cycle, or every other cycle. I've briefly discussed with Dennis. Bootstrapping (and

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:45:33PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: * Fedora should (IMO) institute mandatory mass rebuilds. Either every cycle, or every other cycle. I've briefly discussed with Dennis. Bootstrapping (and similar activities) are far easier with a clean set of deps, which is

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Matt Domsch
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 04:43:30PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:45:33PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: * Fedora should (IMO) institute mandatory mass rebuilds. Either every cycle, or every other cycle. I've briefly discussed with Dennis. Bootstrapping (and

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Jon Masters
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 16:23 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 04:43:30PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:45:33PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: * Fedora should (IMO) institute mandatory mass rebuilds. Either every cycle, or every other cycle. I've

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 05:31:09PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: It doesn't just benefit bootstrap either. Take (random example) the recent CFLAGS change in redhat-rpm-config. What should happen at that point is that every package is automatically rebuilt. Should it cause a problem? No. But

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.orgwrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 05:31:09PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: It doesn't just benefit bootstrap either. Take (random example) the recent CFLAGS change in redhat-rpm-config. What should happen at that point is that

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Jon Masters
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 22:44 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: It's certainly true that we could do more to identify ftbfs situations earlier, but we've had mass rebuilds in most recent releases. Random failures years down the line really aren't a realistic concern. I can think of specific cases

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 06:12:38PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 22:44 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: It's certainly true that we could do more to identify ftbfs situations earlier, but we've had mass rebuilds in most recent releases. Random failures years down the line

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:11:52PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.orgwrote: It's certainly true that we could do more to identify ftbfs situations earlier, but we've had mass rebuilds in most recent releases. Random failures

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.orgwrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:11:52PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: It's certainly true that we could do more to identify ftbfs situations

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:59:36PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.orgwrote: Finding that something that didn't build, hasn't been changed and still doesn't build isn't terribly random :) We could do better, but introducing more

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-09 Thread Jon Masters
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 00:52 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day today Friday July 8th, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is to co-ordinate the bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-07-09 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Jon Masters j...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 00:52 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day today Friday July 8th, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of

Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - FRIDAY

2011-06-29 Thread Chris Tyler
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 02:17 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: Hi Folks, Join us on Friday to celebrate July with another in our series of VFADs! Hi Jon, Just a heads up that you won't have many Canadians joining you -- July 1 is Canada Day, a *big* party date on our calendar. -Chris -- devel