Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-05-06 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - > From: "Farkas Levente" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 11:23:18 AM > Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8 > > is this version of eclipse be ported to rhel dev tools

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-05-06 Thread Farkas Levente
ment discussions related to >> Fedora" >> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:41:30 PM >> Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8 >> >> I'm not proposing having OpenJDK7 in Fedora 21. What I'm asking for is to >> have them both for a month o

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-05-06 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
team - Original Message - > From: "Aleksandar Kurtakov" > To: "Deepak Bhole" , "Development discussions related to > Fedora" > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:41:30 PM > Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8 > > I'm not proposing h

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-27 Thread Omair Majid
Hi, * Stephen John Smoogen [2014-03-26 11:55]: > I would say that there needs to be something a bit larger than a > rebuild but a mass test so that you end up with finding out that someone's > hack > to make java-7 do something neat isn't java-8 runtime saying 'crash'. What about holding a Test

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On Wed 26 Mar 2014 01:19:52 PM CET Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 07:59:13PM -0400, Christopher wrote: >> I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not >> necessarily as the default, but at least available in the repos. As it >> stands, it's difficult to use a modern

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 03/26/2014 05:52 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > On Wed 26 Mar 2014 05:29:55 PM CET Christopher wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Deepak Bhole wrote: >>> * Christopher [2014-03-25 19:59]: I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not necessarily as the def

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On Wed 26 Mar 2014 05:29:55 PM CET Christopher wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Deepak Bhole wrote: >> * Christopher [2014-03-25 19:59]: >>> I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not >>> necessarily as the default, but at least available in the repos. As it >>> stands,

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
- Original Message - > From: "Christopher" > To: "Deepak Bhole" , "Development discussions related to > Fedora" > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:29:55 PM > Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8 > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:3

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 26 March 2014 10:29, Christopher wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Deepak Bhole wrote: > > * Christopher [2014-03-25 19:59]: > >> I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not > >> necessarily as the default, but at least available in the repos. As it > >> stands, it's

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Christopher
; Alexander Kurtakov >> > Red Hat Eclipse team >> > >> > ----- Original Message - >> >> From: "Omair Majid" >> >> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" >> >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 20

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 26 March 2014 07:41, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On 03/25/2014 06:45 PM, Omair Majid wrote: > > * Mikolaj Izdebski [2014-03-24 11:41]: > >> On 03/22/2014 06:15 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > >>> Given the known large number of failures (OptionalJavadocs says "80% > build > >>> failure rate" withou

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Deepak Bhole
ot;Deepak Bhole" > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:31:59 PM > > Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8 > > > > * Christopher [2014-03-25 19:59]: > > > I also would like t

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 03/25/2014 08:07 PM, Omair Majid wrote: > * Mikolaj Izdebski [2014-03-24 11:55]: >> Blocking java-1.7.0-oepnjdk may also be required. This >> makes it impossible to scratch-build Java packages using f21-build >> target in current state. > > Is there anything I can/should do here

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 03/25/2014 06:45 PM, Omair Majid wrote: > * Mikolaj Izdebski [2014-03-24 11:41]: >> On 03/22/2014 06:15 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >>> Given the known large number of failures (OptionalJavadocs says "80% build >>> failure rate" without saying that all are JavaDoc-related), we really >>> should d

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
ot; > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:31:59 PM > Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8 > > * Christopher [2014-03-25 19:59]: > > I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not > > necessa

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Deepak Bhole
Kurtakov > > Red Hat Eclipse team > > > > - Original Message - > >> From: "Omair Majid" > >> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > >> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:07:39 PM > >> Subject: Re: F21 S

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 07:59:13PM -0400, Christopher wrote: > I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not > necessarily as the default, but at least available in the repos. As it > stands, it's difficult to use a modern Fedora on projects that are > still developing against JDK 1.6

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-25 Thread Rob Kearey
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Christopher wrote: > I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not > necessarily as the default, but at least available in the repos. As it > stands, it's difficult to use a modern Fedora on projects that are > still developing against JDK 1.6. +1.

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-25 Thread Christopher
uot;Omair Majid" >> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:07:39 PM >> Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8 >> >> * Mikolaj Izdebski [2014-03-24 11:55]: >> > That's exactly the p

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-25 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
t; Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:07:39 PM > Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8 > > * Mikolaj Izdebski [2014-03-24 11:55]: > > That's exactly the problem. We need to use a modified version of > > java-1.8.0-openjdk with extra provides and adjusted priorities

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-25 Thread Omair Majid
* Mikolaj Izdebski [2014-03-24 11:55]: > That's exactly the problem. We need to use a modified version of > java-1.8.0-openjdk with extra provides and adjusted priorities for > alternatives. I have started a new java-1.8.0-openjdk build that should fix this: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/bu

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-25 Thread Omair Majid
* Mikolaj Izdebski [2014-03-24 11:41]: > On 03/22/2014 06:15 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > Given the known large number of failures (OptionalJavadocs says "80% build > > failure rate" without saying that all are JavaDoc-related), we really > > should do a mass rebuild to identify which packages fa

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-24 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On 03/22/2014 06:15 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> Given the known large number of failures (OptionalJavadocs says "80% build >> failure rate" without saying that all are JavaDoc-related), we really >> should do a mass rebuild to identify wh

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-24 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 03/24/2014 04:49 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: >> On 03/22/2014 06:15 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >>> Given the known large number of failures (OptionalJavadocs says "80% build >>> failure rate" without saying that all are JavaDoc-related), w

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-24 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 03/22/2014 06:15 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > Given the known large number of failures (OptionalJavadocs says "80% build > failure rate" without saying that all are JavaDoc-related), we really > should do a mass rebuild to identify which packages fail to build *and* to > file bugs soonish, instea

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-21 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-03-21 13:11 GMT+01:00 Jaroslav Reznik : > = Proposed System Wide Change: Java 8 = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java8 > > == Detailed Description == > OpenJDK8 is much more strict when it comes to building javadocs. Many - > javadoc package in Fedora fail to build. Those that

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-21 Thread Dan Horák
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Omair Majid wrote: > > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Horák" > > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > Make Java 8 (provided by OpenJDK 8 which is java-1.8.0-openjdk) > > > the default Java runtime. The current default Java runtime (Java > > > 7, p

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-21 Thread Omair Majid
- Original Message - From: "Dan Horák" > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > Make Java 8 (provided by OpenJDK 8 which is java-1.8.0-openjdk) the > > default Java runtime. The current default Java runtime (Java 7, > > provided by OpenJDK 7, java-1.7.0-openjdk) will be obsoleted and > > removed.

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-21 Thread Omair Majid
- Original Message - > Is there an easy way to do test builds against 8 now? java-1.8.0-openjdk is available in F19 (updates-testing), F20 (updates-testing) and in rawhide. It doesn't provide 'java-devel' (which is what yum uses to find JDKs), so Koji shouldn't use java-1.8.0-openjdk

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 13:11:44 +0100, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Java 8 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java8 It may be a good idea to mass rebuild Java packages against OpenJDK 8 to spot any source incompatibilities earlier. This is not required. Is th

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-21 Thread Dan Horák
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:11:44 +0100 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed System Wide Change: Java 8 = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java8 > > Change owner(s): Omair Majid > > Make Java 8 (provided by OpenJDK 8 which is java-1.8.0-openjdk) the > default Java runtime. The current defaul

F21 System Wide Change: Java 8

2014-03-21 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Java 8 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java8 Change owner(s): Omair Majid Make Java 8 (provided by OpenJDK 8 which is java-1.8.0-openjdk) the default Java runtime. The current default Java runtime (Java 7, provided by OpenJDK 7, java-1.7.0-openjdk) will