On 08/22/2013 05:15 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
What things we do _now_ could be
improved with the investment of some effort?
Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result
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work on a composedb that gives easier insight into where things are in
the release cycles. where releases are in their cycle, i.e end of life,
stable or in development, for stable releases when updates where last
pushed, or if updates push is in progress, for in
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Dne 23.8.2013 10:24, Peter Robinson napsal(a):
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
What things we do _now_ could be
improved with the
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 09:56:06AM +0200, Till Maas wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 09:33:59AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk wrote:
Here's my favourite bugbear: https://fedorahosted.org/packagedb/ticket/243
I have no
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 09:41:56PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 09:56:06AM +0200, Till Maas wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 09:33:59AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
There's been discussion of adding fedpkg retire-package to fedpkg which
would basically just open
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 09:33:59AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk wrote:
Here's my favourite bugbear: https://fedorahosted.org/packagedb/ticket/243
I have no idea why the package retirement process needs intervention from
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.orgwrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
What things we do _now_ could be
improved with the investment of some effort?
Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk wrote:
On 22 August 2013 16:03, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo
meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle
E.g. going after these:
http://ausil.fedorapeople.org/**f20-failed.htmlhttp://ausil.fedorapeople.org/f20-failed.html
Right now we have ~350+ broken packages, a lengthy series of broken deps,
an unknown amount of defacto unmaintained packages and an unknown amout of
maintainers having gone
On 08/23/2013 10:39 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
* a unified koji/bodhi/bugzilla Web-GUI
You think BZ is slow now?
What do you mean by now ... now as in comparison to yesterday, or in
general.
In general, my issues with bugzilla basically are two:
- It's UI is clumsy to use for Fedora -
Dne 23.8.2013 10:24, Peter Robinson napsal(a):
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org mailto:mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
What things we do _now_ could be
improved with the
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:
On 08/23/2013 10:39 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
* much longer build.log holding time for FTBFS.
I think this comes down to the amount of storage it takes and the amount
we have available.
Is that really that
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On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:33:59 +0100
Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk
wrote:
On 22 August 2013 16:03, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
Based on
On 08/22/2013 09:03 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
As we look at Fedora.next ideas and possibly decide to start implementation
in the F21 timeframe, we will likely find _new_ things that take specific
work. Let's not worry about that right now. What things we do _now_ could be
improved with the
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo
meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle
for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the 6-month
cycle overall, but just, right now, slowing down for a release to get
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
What things we do _now_ could be
improved with the investment of some effort?
Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect
the mass rebuild.
Apparently less so with all the new ARM builders, right?
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
What things we do _now_ could be
improved with the investment of some effort?
Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect
the mass rebuild.
It's
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
What things we do _now_ could be
improved with the investment of some effort?
Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect
the mass rebuild.
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo
meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle
for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:03:52 -0400
Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the
FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer
release cycle for Fedora 21 --
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:19:09 +0200
drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the
FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer
On 22 August 2013 16:03, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo
meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle
for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the
On 08/22/2013 05:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo
meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle
for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the 6-month
cycle overall, but just,
On 08/22/2013 05:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
What things we do _now_ could be
improved with the investment of some effort?
Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect
the mass rebuild.
Apparently
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:00:54 +0200
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:
...snip...
What Infrastructure projects would be helped by this?
A web infrastructure to
* ease package orphanage.
* launch AWOL/MIA requests
* a unified koji/bodhi/bugzilla Web-GUI
* much longer build.log
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:03:52 -0400
Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the
FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer
release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger
question
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:27:20 +0200
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:
The issue with this perl rebuilt was the person conducting the
initial rebuild didn't manage to finish it. Don't get me wrong - He
did a good job, but his time frame simply was unrealistically short.
Well, I noticed
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:00:54 +0200
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:
On 08/22/2013 05:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the
FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea
On 08/22/2013 03:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo
meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle
for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the 6-month
cycle overall, but just,
On 08/22/2013 06:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Well, I noticed the rebuild was running only some times. I assume when
they were there to launch the builds in that batch?
Is there any way all the builds could be listed and just fired off and
queued all at once?
Peter queue honor build requires
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:03:52 -0400
Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the
FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer
release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger
question
Miroslav Suchy wrote:
On 08/22/2013 06:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Well, I noticed the rebuild was running only some times. I assume
when they were there to launch the builds in that batch?
Is there any way all the builds could be listed and just fired off
and queued all at once?
Peter queue
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:38:38AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
In general most of our constraints are people related. We just don't
have enough developers and sysadmins to setup, deploy and maintain all
the things we might want to do.
I definitely know how that is. Of the list you give, maybe
On 08/22/2013 03:19 PM, drago01 wrote:
Given that most of this stuff can be done parallel to the release (it
is not like everyone is busy for full 6 months during the release
cycle) I doubt this gains us much if anything.
This is laughable response we in QA and I'm pretty sure it's the same
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
johan...@gmail.com wrote:
On 08/22/2013 03:19 PM, drago01 wrote:
Given that most of this stuff can be done parallel to the release (it
is not like everyone is busy for full 6 months during the release
cycle) I doubt this gains us much if
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:03:52AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
As we look at Fedora.next ideas and possibly decide to start implementation
in the F21 timeframe, we will likely find _new_ things that take specific
work. Let's not worry about that right now. What things we do _now_ could be
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:41:25AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:00:54 +0200
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:
...snip...
What Infrastructure projects would be helped by this?
A web infrastructure to
* ease package orphanage.
* launch AWOL/MIA requests
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 17:19 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo
meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle
for Fedora
On Aug 22, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote:
some of the things I would like to work on include, fully automating
the release process, today i have to do mutliple things from multiple
locations to trigger off the different pieces of the release. write a
tool like mash
On Aug 22, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
QA, releng and anaconda are on a more or less permanent iteration
treadmill from Alpha TC1 onwards, severely limiting the time we have to
work on anything else. We can only really get substantive work done on
'things
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 18:11 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Aug 22, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
QA, releng and anaconda are on a more or less permanent iteration
treadmill from Alpha TC1 onwards, severely limiting the time we have to
work on anything else.
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