On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 6:40 PM Chris Murphy
wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 2:11 AM Marius Schwarz
> wrote:
> >
> > Am 03.09.21 um 18:51 schrieb Chris Murphy:
> > > Bug 2001057 - F35 boots 3x slower than F34, large time gaps in systemd
> journal
> > >
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 2:11 AM Marius Schwarz wrote:
>
> Am 03.09.21 um 18:51 schrieb Chris Murphy:
> > Bug 2001057 - F35 boots 3x slower than F34, large time gaps in systemd
> > journal
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001057
> >
> >
> > This one really has gotten my goat. I'm
Am 03.09.21 um 18:51 schrieb Chris Murphy:
Bug 2001057 - F35 boots 3x slower than F34, large time gaps in systemd journal
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001057
This one really has gotten my goat. I'm not finding any reason why
it's taking this long to boot. Usually the
Hi,
On 05. 09. 21 15:29, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel writes:
On 05/09/2021 14:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
if only a great, overwhelming majority of Fedora package maintainers
were able to write policies for their own packages and maintain it
themselves because SELinux
On Fri, 2021-09-03 at 15:57 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 1:32 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
> > So it appears to be an SELinux issue. I suspect but cannot prove that
> > it's related to a number of AVCs related to DBUS that I see in
> > selinux-troubleshooter.
>
> I'm
On Mon, 2021-09-06 at 02:08 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 2:00 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
> >
> > clearly SELinux as a technology is a problem.
> >
>
> I mean, of course, that it's *not* a problem. Though I guess you
> could read the statement as sarcasm?
I was about to ask you
> Am 05.09.2021 um 17:59 schrieb Matthew Miller :
>
> On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 09:19:20AM +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
>> I think it is urgent that Fedora Council starts an initiative here (and I
>> would not hesitate to contribute, not just ask others to do something).
>
> To be clear, the request
> Am 05.09.2021 um 15:07 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen :
>
> On Sun, 5 Sept 2021 at 07:12, Peter Boy wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> ...
>>
>> I watch Distrowatch in an occasional way. It is certainly not the most
>> reliable indicator, unquestioningly. But is is one among others. Currently
>> Fedora
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 2:00 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 12:07 PM Matthew Miller
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 01:11:28PM +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
> > > considered nearly "dead" and has suffered greatly under Novell. And if you
> > > look at sites like stackexchange
> Am 05.09.2021 um 14:40 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia :
>
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 4:10 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
> wrote:
>>
>> On 05/09/2021 09:19, Peter Boy wrote:
>>> Much to my chagrin, you describe the biggest problem in Fedora for years
>>> and the one why Fedora is falling further and
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 12:07 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 01:11:28PM +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
> > considered nearly "dead" and has suffered greatly under Novell. And if you
> > look at sites like stackexchange or serverfault, it's very rarely about
> > Fedora.
>
> We're
On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 01:11:28PM +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
> considered nearly "dead" and has suffered greatly under Novell. And if you
> look at sites like stackexchange or serverfault, it's very rarely about
> Fedora.
We're definitely a long way behind Ubuntu in queries on these sites; the
vast
On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 09:19:20AM +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
> I think it is urgent that Fedora Council starts an initiative here (and I
> would not hesitate to contribute, not just ask others to do something).
To be clear, the request is an initiative to get more per-package SELinux
policies? I
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel writes:
On 05/09/2021 09:55, Philip Rhoades via devel wrote:
My response to situations in the past where resolving the SELinux issue was
opaque (usually to do with MTAs if I recall correctly) . . was just to
disable SELinux and move on . .
In over 10 years with
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel writes:
On 05/09/2021 14:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
if only a great, overwhelming majority of Fedora package maintainers were
able to write policies for their own packages and maintain it themselves
because SELinux documentation was ample and easy to fllow
On 05/09/2021 14:40, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
You're referring to CVE-2020-10188? Who that is sane runs telnetd
these days, or lets it past their firewalls? It's an unencrypted
protocol vulnerable to packet sniffing.
I know at least one who uses telnet to run an online BBS. SELinux saved
this
On 05/09/2021 14:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
if only a great, overwhelming majority of Fedora package maintainers
were able to write policies for their own packages and maintain it
themselves because SELinux documentation was ample and easy to fllow
On Sun, 5 Sept 2021 at 07:12, Peter Boy wrote:
>
>
>
> > Am 05.09.2021 um 09:32 schrieb Samuel Sieb :
> >
> > On 2021-09-05 12:19 a.m., Peter Boy wrote:
> >> Much to my chagrin, you describe the biggest problem in Fedora for years
> >> and the one why Fedora is falling further and further behind
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel writes:
On 05/09/2021 09:19, Peter Boy wrote:
Much to my chagrin, you describe the biggest problem in Fedora for years and
the one why Fedora is falling further and further behind among
distributions. The problem overshadows all that many positive features that
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 4:10 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
wrote:
>
> On 05/09/2021 09:19, Peter Boy wrote:
> > Much to my chagrin, you describe the biggest problem in Fedora for years
> > and the one why Fedora is falling further and further behind among
> > distributions. The problem overshadows
> Am 05.09.2021 um 10:09 schrieb Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
> :
>
> On 05/09/2021 09:19, Peter Boy wrote:
>> Much to my chagrin, you describe the biggest problem in Fedora for years and
>> the one why Fedora is falling further and further behind among
>> distributions. The problem overshadows
On 05/09/2021 13:11, Peter Boy wrote:
overloaded maintainers
Only a few packages (mostly different daemons) require a separate
SELinux policy. None of my 68 packages require this for example.
--
Sincerely,
Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)
On 05/09/2021 13:11, Peter Boy wrote:
I watch Distrowatch in an occasional way. It is certainly not the most reliable
indicator, unquestioningly.
Distrowatch will show you the weather on Mars. Nothing more.
--
Sincerely,
Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)
> Am 05.09.2021 um 09:32 schrieb Samuel Sieb :
>
> On 2021-09-05 12:19 a.m., Peter Boy wrote:
>> Much to my chagrin, you describe the biggest problem in Fedora for years and
>> the one why Fedora is falling further and further behind among
>> distributions. The problem overshadows all that
On 05/09/2021 09:55, Philip Rhoades via devel wrote:
My response to situations in the past where resolving the SELinux issue
was opaque (usually to do with MTAs if I recall correctly) . . was just
to disable SELinux and move on . .
In over 10 years with Fedora, I've only had some SELinux
On 05/09/2021 09:19, Peter Boy wrote:
Much to my chagrin, you describe the biggest problem in Fedora for years and
the one why Fedora is falling further and further behind among distributions.
The problem overshadows all that many positive features that otherwise
distinguish Fedora.
SELinux
Samuel,
On 2021-09-05 17:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 2021-09-05 12:19 a.m., Peter Boy wrote:
Much to my chagrin, you describe the biggest problem in Fedora for
years and the one why Fedora is falling further and further behind
among distributions. The problem overshadows all that many positive
On 2021-09-05 12:19 a.m., Peter Boy wrote:
Much to my chagrin, you describe the biggest problem in Fedora for years and
the one why Fedora is falling further and further behind among distributions.
The problem overshadows all that many positive features that otherwise
distinguish Fedora.
> Am 05.09.2021 um 00:28 schrieb Sam Varshavchik :
>
> Miroslav Suchý writes:
>
>> Dne 04. 09. 21 v 17:28 Sam Varshavchik napsal(a):
>>> Are you a package maintainer? Ok: please write an selinux policy for your
>>> package. Let me know when that's done.
>>
>>
Miroslav Suchý writes:
Dne 04. 09. 21 v 17:28 Sam Varshavchik napsal(a):
Are you a package maintainer? Ok: please write an selinux policy for your
package. Let me know when that's done.
https://pagure.io/copr/copr/blob/main/f/selinux
You are welcome.
You did that 7 years ago, according
Dne 04. 09. 21 v 17:28 Sam Varshavchik napsal(a):
Are you a package maintainer? Ok: please write an selinux policy for your
package. Let me know when that's done.
https://pagure.io/copr/copr/blob/main/f/selinux
You are welcome.
Miroslav
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Stephen Gallagher writes:
So it appears to be an SELinux issue. I suspect but cannot prove that
it's related to a number of AVCs related to DBUS that I see in
selinux-troubleshooter.
I've watched SELinux come into existence, and its evolution over the years.
It's clear to me that SELinux,
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 5:59 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
>
> Does removing fprintd-related packages or disabling fprintd-related
> services cause any difference?
No.
Removed:
2021-09-03T18:23:01-0600 DEBUG ---> Package fprintd.x86_64
1.92.0-2.fc35 will be erased
2021-09-03T18:23:01-0600 DEBUG --->
On Fri, 2021-09-03 at 15:57 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 1:32 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
> > So it appears to be an SELinux issue. I suspect but cannot prove that
> > it's related to a number of AVCs related to DBUS that I see in
> > selinux-troubleshooter.
>
> I'm
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 12:52 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> Bug 2001057 - F35 boots 3x slower than F34, large time gaps in systemd journal
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001057
>
>
> This one really has gotten my goat. I'm not finding any reason why
> it's taking this long to boot.
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 1:32 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> So it appears to be an SELinux issue. I suspect but cannot prove that
> it's related to a number of AVCs related to DBUS that I see in
> selinux-troubleshooter.
I'm only seeing two AVC's which repeat but not a lot...
Sep 03 14:27:09
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 12:52 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> Bug 2001057 - F35 boots 3x slower than F34, large time gaps in systemd journal
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001057
>
>
> This one really has gotten my goat. I'm not finding any reason why
> it's taking this long to boot.
Bug 2001057 - F35 boots 3x slower than F34, large time gaps in systemd journal
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001057
This one really has gotten my goat. I'm not finding any reason why
it's taking this long to boot. Usually the critica-chain or svg plot
exposes the culprit but not
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