On 06/12/2021 23:53, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 12/6/21 09:47, Sérgio Basto wrote:
On Mon, 2021-12-06 at 12:12 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 11:59:05AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
Correct me, if I'm wrong, people to avoid put password in every
sudo
command, modify sudo to not
On 12/6/21 09:47, Sérgio Basto wrote:
On Mon, 2021-12-06 at 12:12 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 11:59:05AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
Correct me, if I'm wrong, people to avoid put password in every
sudo
command, modify sudo to not ask password . And this behavior is a
bi
On 12/1/21 08:13, mkol...@redhat.com wrote:
AFAIK it always added the user to the wheel group. AFAIK there is just
one special root account and you can't change its username.
You can change the root username. Some people have done that for
security purposes. However, it's possible that some
On Mon, 2021-12-06 at 12:12 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 11:59:05AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > Correct me, if I'm wrong, people to avoid put password in every
> > sudo
> > command, modify sudo to not ask password . And this behavior is a
> > big
> > hole of security ,
On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 11:59:05AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> Correct me, if I'm wrong, people to avoid put password in every sudo
> command, modify sudo to not ask password . And this behavior is a big
> hole of security , if user is compromised, attacker will have root
> access for free.
I i
On Wed, 2021-12-01 at 21:40 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 09:29:43AM -0600, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
> > On 11/29/21 1:33 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Users_are_admins_by_default_in_Anaconda
> > >
> > > = Users are administr
Thank you,
I have added feedback from this discussion to the Change page.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Users_are_admins_by_default_in_Anaconda#Feedback
(This does not mean the discussion is over, just that there was enough to
go and edit the page.)
Best,
VS
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:35
Thanks, I have edited the release note on the proposal page.
VS
On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 5:23 PM Jiri Konecny wrote:
>
> Dne 01. 12. 21 v 16:16 Jonathan Wakely napsal(a):
> > On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 19:36, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >> == Release Notes ==
> >>
> >> In the User spoke, the "Make this user a
On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 04:53:20PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Colin Walters said:
> >> https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/commit/eb74f2ea3e9b453902315539e4f327481162c4f8
> >
> > Missed this message earli
On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 05:19:52PM +0100, Jiri Konecny wrote:
>
>
> Dne 01. 12. 21 v 1:10 Michel Alexandre Salim napsal(a):
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 10:08:19AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 30 2021 at 10:57:37 AM -0500, Colin
> > > Walters
> > > wrote:
> > > > https://gith
On Wed, Dec 1, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Colin Walters said:
>> https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/commit/eb74f2ea3e9b453902315539e4f327481162c4f8
>
> Missed this message earlier... this seems like this should be the
> default on pretty much all Fedora
On Wed, Dec 01, 2021 at 09:29:43AM -0600, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
> On 11/29/21 1:33 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Users_are_admins_by_default_in_Anaconda
> >
> >= Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI =
> >
> >== Summary ==
> >
> >The Anaconda in
Once upon a time, Colin Walters said:
> https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/commit/eb74f2ea3e9b453902315539e4f327481162c4f8
Missed this message earlier... this seems like this should be the
default on pretty much all Fedora setups, with documentation on how to
change it if you secure t
On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 15:57 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 22:39 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 16:03 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:13:19AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > > > I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of s
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 9:49 AM Chris Adams wrote:
> So, not directly related to the proposal, but jumping in here because it
> goes with the above statement - the "root should be left locked" setup
> is a problem that keeps single-user mode broken. I tried to follow the
> Fedora (and other distr
Dne 01. 12. 21 v 16:16 Jonathan Wakely napsal(a):
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 19:36, Ben Cotton wrote:
== Release Notes ==
In the User spoke, the "Make this user administrator" checkbox is now
checked by default. This improves installation experience for users
who do not know and need to rely on th
Dne 01. 12. 21 v 1:10 Michel Alexandre Salim napsal(a):
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 10:08:19AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Tue, Nov 30 2021 at 10:57:37 AM -0500, Colin Walters
wrote:
https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/commit/eb74f2ea3e9b453902315539e4f327481162c4f8
Should we b
On Wed, 2021-12-01 at 09:29 -0600, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
> On 11/29/21 1:33 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Users_are_admins_by_default_in_Anaconda
> >
> > = Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI =
> >
> > == Summary ==
> >
> > The Anaconda in
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said:
> Boot with `systemd.debug-shell=1` and there will be a root console
> available on tty9 from very early in boot. Not sure if it's early
> enough for this specific scenario, but it is for a lot.
>
> You can also boot to the initramfs environment by booting
On 11/29/21 1:33 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Users_are_admins_by_default_in_Anaconda
= Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI =
== Summary ==
The Anaconda installer GUI will have the administrative rights
checkbox on the User screen ticked by
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 19:36, Ben Cotton wrote:
> == Release Notes ==
>
> In the User spoke, the "Make this user administrator" checkbox is now
> checked by default. This improves installation experience for users
> who do not know and need to rely on the default values to guide them.
What's the c
On Wed, 2021-12-01 at 14:39 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Di, 30.11.21 15:57, Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org)
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 22:39 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 16:03 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11
On Di, 30.11.21 15:57, Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 22:39 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 16:03 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:13:19AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > > > I don't use sudo , and I'm ag
On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 08:49 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Ben Cotton said:
> > Further, this change of defaults complements the default for root
> > account. The redesign of root setup screen in Fedora 35 makes it clear
> > that root should be left locked.
>
> So, not directly rel
On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 16:10 -0800, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 10:08:19AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 30 2021 at 10:57:37 AM -0500, Colin Walters
> > wrote:
> > > https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/commit/eb74f2ea3e9b453902315539e4f327481
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 10:08:19AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 30 2021 at 10:57:37 AM -0500, Colin Walters
> wrote:
> > https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/commit/eb74f2ea3e9b453902315539e4f327481162c4f8
>
> Should we be using this on other Fedora variants too...? At
On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 22:39 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 16:03 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:13:19AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > > I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of sudo , Fedora
> > > tradition
> > > do things as root .
> >
> > I
On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 16:03 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:13:19AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of sudo , Fedora
> > tradition
> > do things as root .
>
> I hope we don't! Doing things with least required privilege is an
> im
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 11:13:19AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of sudo , Fedora tradition
> do things as root .
I hope we don't! Doing things with least required privilege is an important
security principle, one which was actually pioneered here with th
On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:49:24 +0100
Vít Ondruch wrote:
> I think it would be more constructive if you enumerated pros/cons of
> sudo to support your argument then the tradition.
Not the original poster, but I find that I like the separation of roles
into two. When I do things as root, I mentall
On Tue, Nov 30 2021 at 10:57:37 AM -0500, Colin Walters
wrote:
https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/commit/eb74f2ea3e9b453902315539e4f327481162c4f8
Should we be using this on other Fedora variants too...? At least for
Workstation, where root is always locked?
_
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021, at 9:49 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Ben Cotton said:
>> Further, this change of defaults complements the default for root
>> account. The redesign of root setup screen in Fedora 35 makes it clear
>> that root should be left locked.
>
> So, not directly relate
Once upon a time, Ben Cotton said:
> Further, this change of defaults complements the default for root
> account. The redesign of root setup screen in Fedora 35 makes it clear
> that root should be left locked.
So, not directly related to the proposal, but jumping in here because it
goes with the
I think it would be more constructive if you enumerated pros/cons of
sudo to support your argument then the tradition.
Vít
Dne 30. 11. 21 v 12:13 Sérgio Basto napsal(a):
I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of sudo , Fedora tradition
do things as root .
On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 14:33 -
I don't use sudo , and I'm against the use of sudo , Fedora tradition
do things as root .
On Mon, 2021-11-29 at 14:33 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Users_are_admins_by_default_in_Anaconda
>
> = Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI =
>
>
Hi Brandon, this applies to all variants that display the user screen.
Looking at the profiles we have, that means Server, KDE, Kinoite, IoT.
Where this does *not* apply is Workstation and Silverblue. I believe the
anaconda repository has all the relevant profiles, so hopefully that list
is comple
On 11/29/21 1:33 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Users_are_admins_by_default_in_Anaconda
= Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI =
== Summary ==
The Anaconda installer GUI will have the administrative rights
checkbox on the User screen ticked by
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Users_are_admins_by_default_in_Anaconda
= Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI =
== Summary ==
The Anaconda installer GUI will have the administrative rights
checkbox on the User screen ticked by default.
== Owner ==
* Name: [[User:Vla
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