Re: Fedora 34 Change: Remove Guile Support From Toolchain (Self-Contained Change)

2021-01-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jakub Jelinek: > A better way to do that is I think what GCC does e.g. with isl, > patch the source so that for the very rarely if ever used feature it doesn't > link against the corresponding library, but instead dlopens it and calls it > through dlsym pointers. > That way, make would not have

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Remove Guile Support From Toolchain (Self-Contained Change)

2021-01-13 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 05:10:08PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > This is probably a bad idea, since that deliberately breaks things for > things that expect it to be there. If we *really* want to get rid of > this (and I'm not entirely convinced we should), why not just make an > alternative build sub

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Remove Guile Support From Toolchain (Self-Contained Change)

2021-01-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Neal Gompa: > This is probably a bad idea, since that deliberately breaks things for > things that expect it to be there. If we *really* want to get rid of > this (and I'm not entirely convinced we should), why not just make an > alternative build subpackage and make the two conflict? One with G

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Remove Guile Support From Toolchain (Self-Contained Change)

2021-01-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 05:10:08PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 3:57 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > == Release Notes == > > Release notes should mention the removal of Guile support in GDB/Make > > and suggest alternatives. > > This is probably a bad idea, since that deliberately

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Remove Guile Support From Toolchain (Self-Contained Change)

2021-01-12 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Neal Gompa wrote: > Also "shrink the buildroot" for Make isn't a good enough reason to do > this, since we don't even include Make in the buildroot by default > anymore[1]. > > [1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_make_from_BuildRoot But a lot of packages BuildRequire make, and the

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Remove Guile Support From Toolchain (Self-Contained Change)

2021-01-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 3:57 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RemoveGuileFromToolchain > > > == Summary == > Remove Guile support from GDB and GNU Make packages. > > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:keiths| Keith Seitz]] > * Email: kei...@redhat.com > > > == Detailed Des

Fedora 34 Change: Remove Guile Support From Toolchain (Self-Contained Change)

2021-01-12 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RemoveGuileFromToolchain == Summary == Remove Guile support from GDB and GNU Make packages. == Owner == * Name: [[User:keiths| Keith Seitz]] * Email: kei...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == GDB and Make packages currently contain Guile scripting supp