Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

Over the next two days we're rolling out the first Fedora 34 based Fedora CoreOS into the `stable` stream. Some notable issues/configurations: - Very old systems (Fedora 32 and earlier) may not be able to update [0] - systemd-resolved is still enabled but not used yet [1] Here are some highlig

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

Dnia Tue, May 18, 2021 at 03:37:27PM -0400, Dusty Mabe napisał(a): > Over the next two days we're rolling out the first Fedora 34 based > Fedora CoreOS into the `stable` stream. > > - systemd-resolved is still enabled but not used yet [1] This was Fedora 33 feature. > - Move to cgroup v2 by

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 06:50, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > Dnia Tue, May 18, 2021 at 03:37:27PM -0400, Dusty Mabe napisał(a): > > Over the next two days we're rolling out the first Fedora 34 based > > Fedora CoreOS into the `stable` stream. > > > > - systemd-resolved is still enabled but not used yet [1

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 03:37:27PM -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote: > - DNF Count Me support for Fedora CoreOS [6]. Are the count stats visible somewhere? Zbyszek ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le..

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 09:24, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 03:37:27PM -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > - DNF Count Me support for Fedora CoreOS [6]. > > Are the count stats visible somewhere? > For FCOS this change is not yet enabled, it is coming in a few months (mor

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 2:45 AM Clement Verna wrote: > > > > On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 06:50, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >> >> Dnia Tue, May 18, 2021 at 03:37:27PM -0400, Dusty Mabe napisał(a): >> > Over the next two days we're rolling out the first Fedora 34 based >> > Fedora CoreOS into the `stable` stre

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 01:19:25PM +0200, Clement Verna wrote: > On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 09:24, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 03:37:27PM -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > - DNF Count Me support for Fedora CoreOS [6]. > > > > Are the count stats visible somewhere?

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Wed, May 19, 2021, at 7:54 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > It's not like making changes and breaking upgrades is acceptable in > Fedora Linux either. It's just that the Fedora CoreOS WG has not > participated in the main development process and rolled back changes > instead of adapting to them, whi

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 07:22:37AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 03:37:27PM -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > - DNF Count Me support for Fedora CoreOS [6]. > Are the count stats visible somewhere? Yes, although just the aggregated count data without analysis. I'm w

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 12:38:58PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Some strange stuff! Yeah. You'll probably want to start by filtering by hits specifically to a repo. Perhaps `repo_tag like "updates-released-f__"`. Otherwise you get Fedora Linux and EPEL all mixed together. -- Matth

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 2:45 AM Clement Verna wrote: I think this is the fundamental difference here, Fedora CoreOS does not have a version number. It has 3 streams, stable, testing and next, these streams are based on a version of Fedora Linux but that should just be a detail that most end use

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Wed, May 19 2021 at 03:46:48 PM -0500, Joe Doss wrote: Even in today's FCOS WG meeting I brought up adding in zswap to FCOS and it is shelved until Kubernetes adds for support swap enabled systems. FYI we are using zram in other Fedora editions. zswap is different. Michael ___

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On 5/19/21 4:13 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: FYI we are using zram in other Fedora editions. zswap is different. Sorry, got my names mixed up. Thanks Michael! Joe -- Joe Doss j...@solidadmin.com ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 13:55, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 2:45 AM Clement Verna > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 06:50, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > >> > >> Dnia Tue, May 18, 2021 at 03:37:27PM -0400, Dusty Mabe napisał(a): > >> > Over the next two days we're rolling out

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 22:48, Joe Doss wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 2:45 AM Clement Verna > > wrote: > >> I think this is the fundamental difference here, Fedora CoreOS does > >> not have a version number. It has 3 streams, stable, testing and > >> next, these streams are based on a version

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

Dne 20. 05. 21 v 8:54 Clement Verna napsal(a): On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 13:55, Neal Gompa > wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 2:45 AM Clement Verna mailto:cve...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 06:50, Tomasz Torcz mailto

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On 5/20/21 02:54, Clement Verna wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 13:55, Neal Gompa > wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 2:45 AM Clement Verna mailto:cve...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 06:50, Tomasz Torcz mailto:to...@pi

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

If I may, I think the issue is right there in the name: Fedora CoreOS. The Fedora name brings some expectations and it seems CoreOS, by its nature, can’t be at parity with the other Fedora flavors and that leads to confusion. I can attest that I was surprised when I learned Fedora CoreOS didn’t

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 02:55, Clement Verna wrote: > > > > >> It's not like making changes and breaking upgrades is acceptable in >> Fedora Linux either. > > > Breaking or non backward compatible changes are acceptable in Fedora Linux > tho between major version bump. Again here the cgroups v2 is

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Thu, May 20, 2021, at 10:01 AM, Daniel Walsh wrote: > > This might end up being a major problem with FCOS, if we are stuck with > the defaults forever, and never able to take advantage of new > technology. Note that with cgroups v2, the status quo is that nodes updated in place stay on v1

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Thu, May 20, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Then maybe FCOS needs to have a major version number to indicate that > these breaks are going to happen. I am going to say off the bat it DOES > NOT need to be the same as the Fedora Linux release number. It also > doesn't mean

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 12:50, Colin Walters wrote: > > > On Thu, May 20, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > Then maybe FCOS needs to have a major version number to indicate that > > these breaks are going to happen. I am going to say off the bat it DOES > > NOT need to be the sa

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 10:00, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 20. 05. 21 v 8:54 Clement Verna napsal(a): > > > > On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 13:55, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 2:45 AM Clement Verna >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 06:50, Tomasz Torcz >> wrote: >> >

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 18:14, Ron Olson wrote: > If I may, I think the issue is right there in the name: Fedora CoreOS. The > Fedora name brings some expectations and it seems CoreOS, by its nature, > can’t be at parity with the other Fedora flavors and that leads to > confusion. I can attest tha

Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

On 5/20/21 12:13 PM, Ron Olson wrote: > If I may, I think the issue is right there in the name: Fedora CoreOS. The > Fedora name brings some expectations and it seems CoreOS, by its nature, > can’t be at parity with the other Fedora flavors and that leads to confusion. > I can attest that I wa