On So, 2022-07-10 at 10:36 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 7/10/22 04:38, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> > Have you rebuilt all system packages with -fno-omit-frame-pointer or
> > just tested packages?
>
>
> No. Early in the thread, Tomasz Torcz posted a link to a Phoronix
> article as
On 7/10/2022 11:36 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 7/10/22 04:38, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
Have you rebuilt all system packages with -fno-omit-frame-pointer or
just tested packages?
No. Early in the thread, Tomasz Torcz posted a link to a Phoronix
article as evidence that Fedora's
On 7/10/22 10:55, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
On 10/07/2022 19:36, Gordon Messmer wrote:
No. Early in the thread, Tomasz Torcz posted a link to a Phoronix
article as evidence that Fedora's performance was behind other
distributions.
All packages in the dependency tree must be rebuilt
On 10/07/2022 19:36, Gordon Messmer wrote:
No. Early in the thread, Tomasz Torcz posted a link to a Phoronix
article as evidence that Fedora's performance was behind other
distributions.
All packages in the dependency tree must be rebuilt with
-fno-omit-frame-pointer flag, otherwise the
On 7/10/22 04:38, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
Have you rebuilt all system packages with -fno-omit-frame-pointer or
just tested packages?
No. Early in the thread, Tomasz Torcz posted a link to a Phoronix
article as evidence that Fedora's performance was behind other
distributions. At
On 09/07/2022 22:32, Gordon Messmer wrote:
I cannot replicate any of the differences that I would expect to be able
to. More than anything else, their results look like evidence of a bug
in the Xeon Platinum 8380.
Have you rebuilt all system packages with -fno-omit-frame-pointer or
just
On 6/21/22 21:40, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 6/21/22 13:10, Matthew Miller wrote:
Phoronix credits this to those distros shipping with P-state
Performance by default.
Yes, but I doubt that for several reasons: First, it's a claim without
evidence. That setting isn't the only difference
On 6/21/22 13:10, Matthew Miller wrote:
Phoronix credits this to those distros shipping with P-state Performance by
default.
Yes, but I doubt that for several reasons: First, it's a claim without
evidence. That setting isn't the only difference between any two
systems tested. Second, the
On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 3:11 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 01:36:22PM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> > can probably just treat as a proxy for RHEL performance.) Clear and
> > RHEL (rebuilds) probably get most of their advantages from building
> > for an x86_64-v2
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 01:36:22PM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> can probably just treat as a proxy for RHEL performance.) Clear and
> RHEL (rebuilds) probably get most of their advantages from building
> for an x86_64-v2 microarchitecture, which Fedora discussed and
> rejected last year (after
On 6/21/22 05:10, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
I am expecting the words are:
I would like to see benchmarks we can agree are useful being done by a
'trusted' third party versus a site (or at least does Apples to Apples
comparisons of Alma 9 vs CS9 vs Fedora 34 and Alma8 vs CS8 vs Fedora
29 etc ).
On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 at 19:31, Gordon Messmer
wrote:
>
> Alma is release 8 and CentOS Stream is release 9. I am not surprised
> that there are some benchmarks where they differ. I would, however, be
> fairly surprised if benchmarks showed significant differences between
> RHEL, Alma, and CentOS
On 6/20/22 13:17, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
Actually, in the cases in the past where I looked at Phoronix benchmarks,
Clear got most of it's performance advantage from defaulting to "Performance"
setting of the CPU, while almost everyone else defaults to "Balanced".
I'd be surprised
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 01:36:22PM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 6/17/22 12:15, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> > On 6/17/22 01:41, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> > > I can only concur. Say what you want about Phoronix benchmark, but
> > > they consistently benchmark different distributions And Fedora
> >
On 6/19/22 16:36, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 6/17/22 12:15, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
>> On 6/17/22 01:41, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>>> I can only concur. Say what you want about Phoronix benchmark, but
>>> they consistently benchmark different distributions And Fedora
>>> consistently is lagging
On 6/17/22 12:15, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
On 6/17/22 01:41, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
I can only concur. Say what you want about Phoronix benchmark, but
they consistently benchmark different distributions And Fedora
consistently is lagging behind. Latest article is at
On 6/17/22 01:41, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 07:13:55PM -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
>>
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/fno-omit-frame-pointer
>>> [...]
>>> === Unwinding ===
>>> [...]
>>> * Kernel 4.8 frame pointer benchmarks by Suse showed 5%-10%
>>> regressions
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