Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 14:52 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Real numbers before bald assertions please :-) I resign! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedorapr

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 15:52, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > Real numbers before bald assertions please :-) Sorry I thought this was devel@lists.fedoraproject.org where fact was not needed and very much disdained :) I realized I have jumped onto the hype train of javascript programming where suppo

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:49:09AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 19:35 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: > > Dne 31.8.2011 19:31, Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): > > > they all came from the same version of upstream jquery. And delivering > > > just one large jquery that can be used

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 09:35:50PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > * dojo/dijit - F/OSS, packaged > Currently for any javascript library you are allowed to bundle. In the future this may not be the case so you may have a lot of work to do to maintain this application in the future. Note that

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 19:35 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: > Dne 31.8.2011 19:31, Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): > > they all came from the same version of upstream jquery. And delivering > > just one large jquery that can be used is not going to fit what either > > upstreams, web developers OR their us

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 31.8.2011 19:31, Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): > they all came from the same version of upstream jquery. And delivering > just one large jquery that can be used is not going to fit what either > upstreams, web developers OR their users want or need. I still haven't got the reason why jQuery

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 09:47, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 08:23:56AM -0700, Jorge Gallegos wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:46:36PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 07:52 +0200, Remi wrote: >> > > >From : >> > > >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 08:23:56AM -0700, Jorge Gallegos wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:46:36PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 07:52 +0200, Remi wrote: > > > >From : > > > >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Duplication_of_system_libraries > > > > >

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Jorge Gallegos
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:46:36PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 07:52 +0200, Remi wrote: > > >From : > > >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Duplication_of_system_libraries > > > > "At this time JavaScript intended to be served to a web browser is > > sp

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 31.8.2011 13:12, Mattias Ellert napsal(a): > At the moment jquery is not package as a separate package. If it was > packagers could replace them with a symlink to that. Help us to finish https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=nodejs and you can get https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cg

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Mattias Ellert
ons 2011-08-31 klockan 10:17 +0300 skrev Yanko Kaneti: > # repoquery -f '*/jquery*.js' --qf="%{NAME}\n" | sort | uniq | wc -l > 356 > > jQuery FTW :) Most of these are probably doxygen generated documentation. Recent versions of doxygen provides a search option for the generated html documentati

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-31 Thread Yanko Kaneti
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 23:46 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 07:52 +0200, Remi wrote: > > >From : > > >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Duplication_of_system_libraries > > > > "At this time JavaScript intended to be served to a web browser is > > specifica

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 07:52 +0200, Remi wrote: > >From : > >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Duplication_of_system_libraries > > "At this time JavaScript intended to be served to a web browser is > specifically exempted from this but this will likely change in the future." >

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-30 Thread Remi
>From : >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Duplication_of_system_libraries "At this time JavaScript intended to be served to a web browser is specifically exempted from this but this will likely change in the future." This explain why so much .js libraries are bundled in so mu

Re: Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Speaking about prototype and scriptaculous, I am sure that they are bundled also in Rails and if there are some Rails applications packaged, they will be included also in them. However I am not sure if they should be packaged separately or just copylibs. Vit Dne 31.8.2011 06:35, Adam William

Oh god, my eyes (packaging a hairball of bundled PHP stuff, tt-rss)

2011-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, all. So, I'm looking at packaging tt-rss - an RSS reader implemented as a PHP webapp - for Fedora, since I run it on my own server. It became rapidly clear that it's a landmine of bundled PHP libraries and snippets and uncertain licensing. I'm unsure which of the things it bundles would be lik