Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 14:06 +, Sergey Avseyev wrote: > mypaint is not retired you can take the onwership -- Sérgio M. B. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

Is it too late to restore maintenance of mypaint? I've just fixed all issues, and only about to push last patch, but cannot do it unfortunately anymore. -- Sergey Avseyev El lun., 7 ene. 2019 a las 7:59, Miro Hrončok () escribió: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 6:11 PM Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 23:49:17 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > Request package ownership via releng issues: > > https://pagure.io/releng/issues > > How? Click "New Issue", fill out "package_unorphan" or "package_unretirement" template,

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 23:49:17 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Request package ownership via releng issues: > https://pagure.io/releng/issues How? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

It BuildRequires gcc, which BuildRequires dblatex, which BuildRequires python-which. I'm rebundling python-which in dblatex, so that should go away. --  Gwyn Ciesla she/her/hers   in your fear, seek only peace  in your fear, seek only love -d.

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:44 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-09-10 at 02:41 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > openvswitch aconole, chrisw, orphan, 0 weeks ago > > > tgraf, tredaell > > > > This one is a

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

Original Message - >> From: "Steven A. Falco" >> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 9:39:17 AM >> Subject: Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week) >> >> On 9/9/19 6:06 PM, Elliott Sale

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

10, 2019 9:39:17 AM > Subject: Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week) > > On 9/9/19 6:06 PM, Elliott Sales de Andrade wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 at 18:02, David Sommerseth wrote: > >> > >> On 09/09/2019 23:49, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >>&

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

On 9/9/19 6:06 PM, Elliott Sales de Andrade wrote: > On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 at 18:02, David Sommerseth wrote: >> >> On 09/09/2019 23:49, Miro Hrončok wrote: >>> The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they >>> are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

On Tuesday, 10 September 2019 at 06:47, Raphael Groner wrote: > > My package requires libxslt. > > You're obviously not alone with this issue. The better question is > *why* the package as a commonly used library got orphaned, propably > silently without warning (at least I can not find any

libxslt (was: Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week))

On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 07:43:49AM +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: > W dniu 10.09.2019 o 06:47, Raphael Groner pisze: > > Hi, > > > >> My package requires libxslt. > > > > You're obviously not alone with this issue. The better question is *why* > > the package as a commonly used library got

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

W dniu 10.09.2019 o 06:47, Raphael Groner pisze: > Hi, > >> My package requires libxslt. > > You're obviously not alone with this issue. The better question is *why* the > package as a commonly used library got orphaned, propably silently without > warning (at least I can not find any

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

Hi, > My package requires libxslt. You're obviously not alone with this issue. The better question is *why* the package as a commonly used library got orphaned, propably silently without warning (at least I can not find any announcement, officially). Regards Raphael

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 11:49:17PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

I filed an issue offering to take this and a few others. Sent from ProtonMail mobile \ Original Message On Sep 9, 2019, 7:31 PM, < mcatanz...@gnome.org> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 4:49 PM, Miro Hrončok > <[mhron...@redhat.com][mhroncok_redhat.com]> > wrote: > >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

On Tue, 2019-09-10 at 02:41 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Miro Hrončok wrote: > > openvswitch aconole, chrisw, orphan, 0 weeks ago > > tgraf, tredaell > > This one is a dependency of NetworkManager, so surely it should not go away. > (Or is

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

Miro Hrončok wrote: > openvswitch aconole, chrisw, orphan, 0 weeks ago > tgraf, tredaell This one is a dependency of NetworkManager, so surely it should not go away. (Or is the plan to drop support for it from NM?) So can either one of the

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 4:49 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: libxslt orphan, veillard 0 weeks ago Looks pretty important, any takers? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

Elliott Sales de Andrade writes: > On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 at 18:02, David Sommerseth wrote: >> >> On 09/09/2019 23:49, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they >> > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for >> > sure

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

On 9/9/19 4:49 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: libxslt orphan, veillard 0 weeks ago This is a big one... @Daniel, can you take it over as primary maintainer? Thanks, Michael ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 at 18:02, David Sommerseth wrote: > > On 09/09/2019 23:49, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure > > that the package should be retired, please

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (~400 during this week)

On 09/09/2019 23:49, Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: >

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 9:06 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 13:22, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> On 3/19/19 11:01 AM, Stelian Iancu wrote: >> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:35 AM Emmanuel Seyman >> wrote: >> >> >> >> * Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : >> >>> >> >>> I

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 13:22, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 3/19/19 11:01 AM, Stelian Iancu wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:35 AM Emmanuel Seyman > wrote: > >> > >> * Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : > >>> > >>> I though it was just one person which decide orphan his 259 packages > >> > >>

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

On 3/19/19 11:01 AM, Stelian Iancu wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:35 AM Emmanuel Seyman wrote: * Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : I though it was just one person which decide orphan his 259 packages Mikolaj is the last actif member of the Java SIG. And who is guilty for this? I

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

> Sorry, but I'm afraid I don't quite get this. Could you please rephrase? > The script uses source repos to fetch build-dependencies. Thanks. That answers my question. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 19:20 Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for > sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

On 09. 04. 19 0:03, Raphael Groner wrote: Hopefully, it's sufficient to rebuild in rawhide only. It is. No idea why the original try to unbundle failed and your script cares about other as just looking into really generated dependencies of binary rpm instead of analysis done in spec file.

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

Hi Miro, volumeicon should be fixed in rawhide. It turns out that the BuildRequires line wasn't needed at all in volumeicon.spec because upstream bundles partly its own copy of the needed functions with code obviously copied from keybinder. Therefore I dropped this BR and added a new Provides

Orphaned packages to be retired

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Orphaned packages to be retired

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

On 02. 04. 19 8:41, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Miro, > > Could you please also send a list of retired packages after you pull the > trigger? The information was included in my e-mail (I guess a bit hidden): >> Packages already retired today: >>SimplyHTML aether-connector-okhttp antlr3

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

Miro, Could you please also send a list of retired packages after you pull the trigger? Thx Vít Dne 01. 04. 19 v 23:17 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know > for sure

Orphaned packages to be retired

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note:

Orphaned packages to be retired

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note:

Re: ACTION NEEDED: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 1 week)

I considered taking xcdroast but it needs to be patched to work with wodim because it's only designed to be used with real cdrecord... Probably best just to retire it. There are several other lightweight graphical CD/DVD writer tools. Thanks, Richard

Re: ACTION NEEDED: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 1 week)

On Wed, 2019-03-27 at 18:48 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 27. 03. 19 18:18, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 11:08 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > sergiomb: nodejs-array-union > > > > why today ;) I'm associated to nodejs-array-union , seems to me > > thescript have a bug ... > >

Re: ACTION NEEDED: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 1 week)

On 27. 03. 19 18:18, Sérgio Basto wrote: On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 11:08 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: sergiomb: nodejs-array-union why today ;) I'm associated to nodejs-array-union , seems to me thescript have a bug ... What bug? Read the full report and grep your FAS name, follow the crumbs:

Re: ACTION NEEDED: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 1 week)

On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 11:08 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > sergiomb: nodejs-array-union why today ;) I'm associated to nodejs-array-union , seems to me thescript have a bug ... Thanks, -- Sérgio M. B. ___ devel mailing list --

ACTION NEEDED: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 1 week)

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note:

ACTION NEEDED: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 1 week)

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note:

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:35 AM Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > * Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : > > > > I though it was just one person which decide orphan his 259 packages > > Mikolaj is the last actif member of the Java SIG. > I think the bigger question here is what is going to happen with the

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

* Sérgio Basto [19/03/2019 00:03] : > > I though it was just one person which decide orphan his 259 packages Mikolaj is the last actif member of the Java SIG. Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

On Mon, 2019-03-18 at 19:06 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 15:45:49 +, you wrote: > > > > > After thinking , my suggestion is do not retire any java package. > > > > These package should be take by java sig . > > That's nice, who exactly is this Java sig you have

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On 18. 03. 19 22:58, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: The actual effect of this is that I'm going to disable Java bindings for all the affected packages. Java loses, Fedora loses. Everybody looses :( -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

Re: [Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 15:45:49 +, you wrote: > >After thinking , my suggestion is do not retire any java package. > >These package should be take by java sig . That's nice, who exactly is this Java sig you have kindly decided should take on this significant undertaking? My (limited)

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 10:34:23AM +0100, Jakub Jelen wrote: > On Fri, 2019-03-15 at 19:36 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 23:48:49 +0100, you wrote: > > > > > * Richard W.M. Jones [15/03/2019 20:23] : > > > > Is Java being dropped from the distro? > > > > > > Yes, that's

[Fwd: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)]

ct.org, Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 12:55:11 +0100 The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know fo

Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 2 weeks)

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 05:35, Jakub Jelen wrote: > > On Fri, 2019-03-15 at 19:36 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 23:48:49 +0100, you wrote: > > > > > * Richard W.M. Jones [15/03/2019 20:23] : > > > > Is Java being dropped from the distro? > > > > > > Yes, that's what we

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Fri, 2019-03-15 at 19:36 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 23:48:49 +0100, you wrote: > > > * Richard W.M. Jones [15/03/2019 20:23] : > > > Is Java being dropped from the distro? > > > > Yes, that's what we were warned about months ago. > > Don't think so. > > Nothing has

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 23:48:49 +0100, you wrote: >* Richard W.M. Jones [15/03/2019 20:23] : >> Is Java being dropped from the distro? > >Yes, that's what we were warned about months ago. Don't think so. Nothing has been said about dropping Java, and if anything the OpenJDK packagers have been

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

* Richard W.M. Jones [15/03/2019 20:23] : > > These are very important packages. What do we have to do here? I'm going to repeat this until it sinks in... If you (this is the generic you, not you specifically) want these packages to be in the distribution, you need to step up and ask for

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 12:40:00PM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:38:47AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> rjones: apache-ivy, maven-jar-plugin, maven-javadoc-plugin, gradle, > >> xmvn, plexus-utils > > > > I'm unclear what if anything I

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:38:47AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> rjones: apache-ivy, maven-jar-plugin, maven-javadoc-plugin, gradle, >> xmvn, plexus-utils > > I'm unclear what if anything I could do (apart from maintaining loads > of Java packages which isn't going to

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:38:47AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > rjones: apache-ivy, maven-jar-plugin, maven-javadoc-plugin, gradle, > xmvn, plexus-utils I'm unclear what if anything I could do (apart from maintaining loads of Java packages which isn't going to happen). Is the email saying that

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 06:53, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > You can build Java apps as modules, yes. > If we remove the mentioned packages from rawhide, it will be the only way to > build Java packages. How are the Java applications that come with C (JNI) extensions handled in the modules model? How do

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On 13. 03. 19 18:05, Christopher wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:07 AM Randy Barlow wrote: On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 18:39 -0400, Christopher wrote: Well, the packager experience I'm expecting in 3 weeks is: "almost all of my dependencies and BuildRequires are gone; I can't build anything".

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:23 AM Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:21 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Can you give us a minimal set of packages that is required to make sure > > libreoffice etc. aren't caught up in the mass retirement? > > The minimal package set is the

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:07 AM Randy Barlow wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 18:39 -0400, Christopher wrote: > > Well, the packager experience I'm expecting in 3 weeks is: "almost > > all > > of my dependencies and BuildRequires are gone; I can't build > > anything". > > How much worse could it

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 18:39 -0400, Christopher wrote: > Well, the packager experience I'm expecting in 3 weeks is: "almost > all > of my dependencies and BuildRequires are gone; I can't build > anything". > How much worse could it get than that? Fair. I don't think we anticipated the large

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:49 PM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Mikolaj Izdebski: > > >> As far as I understand it, under the Koji model, one of the tags wins, > >> and which one determines whether you get the Python 2 subpackage or the > >> Python 3 subpackage. You cannot get both. You will need

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

* Mikolaj Izdebski: >> As far as I understand it, under the Koji model, one of the tags wins, >> and which one determines whether you get the Python 2 subpackage or the >> Python 3 subpackage. You cannot get both. You will need two or more >> buildroots for that. > > That used to be the case,

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:59 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Mikolaj Izdebski: > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:42 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >> Alternative sum up: > >> * People (not just Mikolaj) started using modules, while Koji cannot use > >> modular repos. > > > > Incorrect. Koji (the

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

* Mikolaj Izdebski: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:42 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> Alternative sum up: >> * People (not just Mikolaj) started using modules, while Koji cannot use >> modular repos. > > Incorrect. Koji (the software) *can* use modular repos. I know of more > than one installation of

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:21 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > Can you give us a minimal set of packages that is required to make sure > libreoffice etc. aren't caught up in the mass retirement? The minimal package set is the contents of javapackages-tools module, stream 201801. There are about 185

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

Hi, On 3/13/19 9:45 AM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: * Hans de Goede [13/03/2019 08:51] : A solution for this needs to be found and be in place *before* dropping these packages not the otherway around. We've known the solution for months, now. If you (this is the generic you, not you

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 21:24 +0100, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 3:11 PM Jakub Jelen > wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 13:43 +0200, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > > Hmm, > > >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

* Hans de Goede [13/03/2019 08:51] : > > A solution for this needs to be found and be in place *before* dropping > these packages not the otherway around. We've known the solution for months, now. If you (this is the generic you, not you specifically) want these packages to be in the

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

Hi, On 12-03-19 11:38, Miro Hrončok wrote: The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 07:42 Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > On ke, 13 maalis 2019, Fabio Valentini wrote: > >On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 22:37 Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02,

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On ke, 13 maalis 2019, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 22:37 Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen wrote: >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 22:37 Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen > wrote: > > > > > > > > Is there already a way

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 6:03 PM Randy Barlow wrote: > As Miro said in another post, it's not that FESCo doesn't want to use > modules in Koji, it's that we want to make sure that the packager > experience is as good as it was pre-modularity, and in particular that > packagers can build locally as

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 22:18 +0100, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > It's Fedora developers (represented by > elected body of FESCo) that don't want to use modules in Fedoras' > Koji > installation. As Miro said in another post, it's not that FESCo doesn't want to use modules in Koji, it's that we want

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On 12. 03. 19 22:11, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: I hope FESCo will finally realize how important it is to allow building any package against modules and change the policy, allowing modules to be used as build dependencies for non-modular packages. Oh we do realize. Especially since everything will

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen wrote: > > > > > > Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or > > > we will really

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:42 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Alternative sum up: > * People (not just Mikolaj) started using modules, while Koji cannot use > modular repos. Incorrect. Koji (the software) *can* use modular repos. I know of more than one installation of Koji that successfully builds

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 6:20 PM Christopher wrote: > Addendum: some of us part-time packagers, which depended on these > packages to build our own Java packages don't know how to convert to > modular packaging. I'm still trying to learn in my spare time, but I > don't know where to look and have

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 3:11 PM Jakub Jelen wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 13:43 +0200, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > Hmm, > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/java-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/MQMRQVENBLDRS67WLNQ7EOCMSDI5WIET/ > > seems that people had a lot of time to

Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 12. 03. 19 v 12:34 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > > This whole process was handled in the worst possible way. To sum up: > > * No one knew Java SIG was having manpower issues because Mikolaj > > didn't know how to ask for help > > * Now it's

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

Dne 12. 03. 19 v 12:34 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > This whole process was handled in the worst possible way. To sum up: > * No one knew Java SIG was having manpower issues because Mikolaj > didn't know how to ask for help > * Now it's too late because he orphaned nearly 1700 packages to force >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 12:16 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > Maybe, but it will cause the removal of other packages that depend on > their regular (non-modular) builds. You are forcing the hands of > their > maintainers before the infrastructure to make modular packages > available >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 13:43 +0200, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:36 PM Neal Gompa > wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:29 AM Aleksandar Kurtakov < > > akurt...@redhat.com> > > wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < > >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 8:35 AM Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:36 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > This whole process was handled in the worst possible way. To sum up: > > * No one knew Java SIG was having manpower issues because Mikolaj > > didn't know how to ask for help > >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:36 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > This whole process was handled in the worst possible way. To sum up: > * No one knew Java SIG was having manpower issues because Mikolaj > didn't know how to ask for help You did not know that, but the situation in Java SIG is well known to

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:36 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:29 AM Aleksandar Kurtakov > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < > domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > >> > >> On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > >> >

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:29 AM Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: >> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen wrote: >> > > >> > > Is there already a way

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:17 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen wrote: > > > > > > Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 at 12:02, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen wrote: > > > > Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or > > we will really remove all these package from Fedora? > > Most of Java packages listed in this thread

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:49 AM Jakub Jelen wrote: > > Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or > we will really remove all these package from Fedora? Most of Java packages listed in this thread are already packaged as modules. Their retirement in rawhide won't

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

On 12. 03. 19 11:48, Jakub Jelen wrote: Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or we will really remove all these package from Fedora? You can build Java apps as modules, yes. If we remove the mentioned packages from rawhide, it will be the only way to build Java

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

Is there already a way to package the java application as a module or we will really remove all these package from Fedora? I am really not interested in maintaining a whole java frameworks stack, but some guidance (not these weekly emails) from java maintainers team that took this decision would

Orphaned packages to be retired (Java packages in 3 weeks)

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

Dne 13. 02. 19 v 7:33 Jens-Ulrik Petersen napsal(a): > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 5:44 PM Vít Ondruch > wrote: > > Dne 11. 02. 19 v 4:33 Jens-Ulrik Petersen napsal(a): >> I have to say I am not really enjoying this ongoing aggressive >> package retirement

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 at 01:34, Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 5:44 PM Vít Ondruch wrote: >> >> Dne 11. 02. 19 v 4:33 Jens-Ulrik Petersen napsal(a): >> >> I have to say I am not really enjoying this ongoing aggressive package >> retirement process. >> If packages are not

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 5:44 PM Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 11. 02. 19 v 4:33 Jens-Ulrik Petersen napsal(a): > > I have to say I am not really enjoying this ongoing aggressive package > retirement process. > If packages are not broken and needed by other packages, then I don't see > why we are

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

Dne 11. 02. 19 v 4:33 Jens-Ulrik Petersen napsal(a): > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 4:27 AM Miro Hrončok > wrote: > > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you > know for

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