Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 19:58 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 09:59:52AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Oh sure. I guess I need to draw a distinction between what I see as two > > different cases. Which I'm sure you understand but I'm having trouble > > describing clearly. I g

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 09:59:52AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Oh sure. I guess I need to draw a distinction between what I see as two > different cases. Which I'm sure you understand but I'm having trouble > describing clearly. I guess what I'm saying is, if > there's /etc/keyboard.conf speci

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 10:26 -0800, John Reiser wrote: > On 01/03/2013 09:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > if > > there's /etc/keyboard.conf specifying 'KEYBOARD=foo', [then] I should never > > have to pass 'KEYBOARD=foo' as a cmdline to make foo my keyboard layout > > in some case. As things stan

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread John Reiser
On 01/03/2013 09:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > if > there's /etc/keyboard.conf specifying 'KEYBOARD=foo', [then] I should never > have to pass 'KEYBOARD=foo' as a cmdline to make foo my keyboard layout > in some case. As things stand I believe I do, for passphrase entry > during dracut. The dra

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 18:53 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 03.01.13 09:38, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > If we have such a tool, can we make the whole area of keymap > > configuration much less insane? Right now we appear to have at least the > > following: > > We

Re: Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 03.01.13 09:38, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: > If we have such a tool, can we make the whole area of keymap > configuration much less insane? Right now we appear to have at least the > following: Well, we still will allow configuration of per-boot, per-system and per-user

Rationalizing X and console keymaps and configuration (was Re: Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps)

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 15:43 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 03.01.13 00:03, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889562 - systemd > > conversion from xkb to console layouts fails probably more than it > > succeeds, when it does