Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:57:21AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 9:54 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > > On 9/26/19 10:05 PM, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:56PM -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > > >> On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 14:49 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: >

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > I like this. > It means that the build-system would have to generate the tarball of the > source > and put it into dist-git at srpm-build time (I believe we still want to store > a > copy of the sources used for a build). https://gi

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Randy Barlow
On Fri, 2019-09-27 at 10:26 +0200, Michal Konecny wrote: > There is still possibility to use libraries.io > instead of Anitya, but there are some issues: > - lack of downstream mapping (this could be easily solved by some > database with only downstream mapping) > - lack of custom project additio

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 9:54 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On 9/26/19 10:05 PM, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:56PM -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > >> On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 14:49 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > >>> The combination of these two makes no sense to me. I do plenty of

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Martin Kolman
On Fri, 2019-09-27 at 00:20 +0200, Dan Čermák wrote: > Randy Barlow writes: > > > This suggestion gives a nice clean place to write the bodhi update > > description, right in git. The commit messages can remain the way they > > are today: authored for the audience of spec file contributors. > >

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 9/26/19 10:05 PM, Jeremy Cline wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:56PM -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 14:49 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: The combination of these two makes no sense to me. I do plenty of work where I don't want to build it (specfile cleanup, patches, configu

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:40:42PM +0200, Martin Kolman wrote: > On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 16:24 +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > > Good Morning Everyo

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Martin Kolman
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 16:24 +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > Good Morning Everyone, > > > > > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision o

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Martin Kolman
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 18:26 +0200, Ben Rosser wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 5:29 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon > wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:46:32PM +0200, Ben Rosser wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:29 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon > > > wrote: > > > > There is a clear initial rejection of

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Fabien Boucher
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:56 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > Yes. I've em-mailed you about the problem when it was happening, asking > you to > disable it, there was no reply and I managed to build it at the end. > > So, I apologize. I missed your email. ___

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 27. 09. 19 11:50, Fabien Boucher wrote: I remember that during the Python 3.8 rebuilds in the side tag, one package had this automated somehow already. I was bumping the release/changelog and trying to build it in the side tag at least 5 times, but I was building with --backg

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Fabien Boucher
On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:03 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > I remember that during the Python 3.8 rebuilds in the side tag, one > package had > this automated somehow already. I was bumping the release/changelog and > trying > to build it in the side tag at least 5 times, but I was building with > --b

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-09-26, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests Pull requests are great for proposing your changes to foreign packages. It does not make sense when maintaining the code. Either when doing a mass changes like rebuilding all Perl packages against a n

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-27 Thread Michal Konecny
On 2019-09-26 20:35, Jeremy Cline wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 09:08:16AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 15:46 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: Ah right, that makes a lot of sense. I can imagine automatically detecting the new upstream release, building that, and presenting

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Dan Čermák
Christopher writes: > I just don't see this proposed workflow as solving the biggest > problems that packagers face. For me, I think the biggest problem that > packagers (particularly newer packagers) face is discovery of all the > services involved in the packaging workflow, and the need to visi

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Pierre-Yves Chibon [26/09/2019 16:07] : > > When we work on upstream projects, I think it's pretty standard now to always > go > via PRs, even for your own branch. FWIW, this workflow makes sense for one that has a community but it sounds very strange to do this on a project on which you are th

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Dan Čermák
Randy Barlow writes: > This suggestion gives a nice clean place to write the bodhi update > description, right in git. The commit messages can remain the way they > are today: authored for the audience of spec file contributors. > > We could also support special syntax in the tag message to allow

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 16:46, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Allow packagers to have a clone of the upstraem git repo > > - What about the upstream projects that still only publish a tarball at > release? What about upstream

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Dan Čermák
Daniel P. Berrangé writes: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > For packages I maintain, my preference is to touch dist-git as little > as possible. Ideally I would never touch dist-git at all & rather wish > it didn't exist at all in its current form of spec+

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 09. 19 22:06, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: "C" == Christopher writes: C> With version-controlled package sources, changelogs in SPEC seem so C> obsolete to me. They are already problematic today when they conflict C> due to changes in multiple branches. It's important to note that the

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 09. 19 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: ○ Every commit to dist-git (ie: PR merged) is automatically built in koji If we go this way, there must be a way to disable this or to dictate what side tag this needs to be built in. I remember that during the Python 3.8 rebuilds in the side ta

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 09. 19 21:47, Randy Barlow wrote: On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 19:05 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: The tag also provides a nice place to write release notes for the update. I suppose you could also add support for some sort of text tag inside commits (like when you mark a commit as fixing an issue

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 09. 19 22:37, Tristan Cacqueray wrote: Note that git-pull-requests now support pagure. The tool takes care of creating the fork, pushing the local changes and opening the PR: https://github.com/Mergifyio/git-pull-request Will definitively test this soon, thanks! If it works, we shoul

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 15:49 Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:40:49PM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> Dne 26. 09. 19 v 15:10 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): >> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: >> > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écr

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "C" == Christopher writes: C> With version-controlled package sources, changelogs in SPEC seem so C> obsolete to me. They are already problematic today when they conflict C> due to changes in multiple branches. It's important to note that the RPM changelog is rather a different thing from

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Randy Barlow
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 14:49 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > ○ Every commit to dist-git (ie: PR merged) is automatically built > > in koji > > ○ Every build in koji results automatically in an update in bodhi > > The combination of these two makes no sense to me. I do plenty of > work > where I don'

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Randy Barlow
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 19:05 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > The tag also provides a nice place to write release notes for the > update. I suppose you could also add support for some sort of text > tag > inside commits (like when you mark a commit as fixing an issue in > Git{Lab,Hub} and look at the co

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:56PM -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 14:49 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > The combination of these two makes no sense to me. I do plenty of > > work > > where I don't want to build it (specfile cleanup, patches, > > configuration > > changes, etc.).

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Randy Barlow
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 14:49 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > The combination of these two makes no sense to me. I do plenty of > work > where I don't want to build it (specfile cleanup, patches, > configuration > changes, etc.). I want a build that goes to users be explicit. > > A better model, in my

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Randy Barlow
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 08:58 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > I'm also not clear on where the .spec files and tests would live if > you > are using a fork of the upstream. We still need dist-git to store > those, > even if everything that touches them is a tool other than vim. Or > maybe > I missed som

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 09:08:16AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 15:46 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > > > Ah right, that makes a lot of sense. > > > > I can imagine automatically detecting the new upstream release, building > > that, and presenting the packager with a easy

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Troy Dawson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:48 AM Robbie Harwood wrote: > > Pierre-Yves Chibon writes: > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > > ○ Pull-requests are automatically tested > > ○ Every commit to dist-g

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 01:22:03PM -0400, Robert Marcano via devel wrote: > On 9/26/19 12:57 PM, Ken Dreyer wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:11 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon > > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: >> Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : >> > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: >> > >> > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests >> >> IMHO Hav

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Christopher
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:33 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager workflow. > This discussion was triggered by the realization that a number of initiatives > are happening around packaging in Fedora but the

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Robbie Harwood
Pierre-Yves Chibon writes: > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > ○ Pull-requests are automatically tested > ○ Every commit to dist-git (ie: PR merged) is automatically built in koji > ○ Every build in ko

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Robert Marcano via devel
On 9/26/19 12:57 PM, Ken Dreyer wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:11 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: ○ Every cha

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:11 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Per Bothner
* Unclear work- On 9/26/19 7:07 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: When we work on upstream projects, I think it's pretty standard now to always go via PRs, even for your own branch. So that tests are run, so that other member of the community can see, comment, review the change. What is so differen

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Ben Rosser
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 5:29 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:46:32PM +0200, Ben Rosser wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:29 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon > > wrote: > > > There is a clear initial rejection of a PR-only contribution model. I > > > hear that > > > and that

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 9/26/19 9:07 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: What is so different in Fedora that we cannot move to this model? Is it a tooling issue? Is it something else? As others have already stated that may work in projects with tens, hundreds, or thousands of contributors, but most of Fedora packages ar

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 9/26/19 10:28 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Would this change if the PR was automatically tested for you without you having to do anything? I always run local mock builds prior to commits. Maybe not everyone likes to do this and wants Koji to do it for them, but I prefer local mock builds.

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-09-26 at 15:46 +, Jeremy Cline wrote: > > Ah right, that makes a lot of sense. > > I can imagine automatically detecting the new upstream release, building > that, and presenting the packager with a easy-to-review PR that you just > click "merge" on instead of pointing the specfi

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Steven A. Falco
On 9/26/19 11:14 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:57 PM Jeremy Cline wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:49:31PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >>> wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, D

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: [snip] > Allow packagers to have a clone of the upstraem git repo, and use the > pull-requests and run Fedora CI testing against the Fedora branch of > the upstream repo instead of against dist-git. > > In this way, maintaining

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 05:14:59PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:57 PM Jeremy Cline wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:49:31PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Se

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:46:32PM +0200, Ben Rosser wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:29 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon > wrote: > > There is a clear initial rejection of a PR-only contribution model. I hear > > that > > and that may mean that we never go this way. I'm honestly fine with that :) > > I

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:57 PM Jeremy Cline wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:49:31PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > > Instead I pre

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 26.09.2019 15:10, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > What makes it a headache? What can we do to not have this be a terrible > headache? Can we fix/improve the tooling? I'm not going to log in into web, create a new pr, then merge it. This is a terrible idea. Do not change current workflow. -- Since

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 26.09.2019 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests No way! This is a terrible idea. > ○ Every build in koji results automatically in an update in bodhi Not good too. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) _

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Ben Rosser
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:50 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > Instead I prefer a clone of the master upstream git repo and maintain a > > > branch wi

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:16:46PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > ○ Every commit to dist-git (ie: PR merged) is automatically built in koji > > I don't think this is wise. On the one hand, it will create even more > workload in koji, and on the other hand, running "fedpkg build" for > things I

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:49:31PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > Instead I prefer a clone of the master upstream git repo and maintain a > > > br

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 09. 19 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests I like this idea, however as other has pointed out, it needs to be much smoother experience than now. See for example this RFE: number 3) https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Jeremy Cline
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Good Morning Everyone, > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager workflow. > This discussion was triggered by the realization that a number of initiatives > are happening around packaging in Fedora

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:47 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Instead I prefer a clone of the master upstream git repo and maintain a > > branch with patches cherry-picked into it. This is used to auto-generate > > pa

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Ben Rosser
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 4:29 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > There is a clear initial rejection of a PR-only contribution model. I hear > that > and that may mean that we never go this way. I'm honestly fine with that :) > I do want to see why that is a show-stopper and if we can find ways to not

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > Instead I prefer a clone of the master upstream git repo and maintain a > branch with patches cherry-picked into it. This is used to auto-generate > patches for the Fedora RPM, at the same time updating the patch file list > in t

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:07:59PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 08:47:24AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > On 9/26/19 8:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > Again, I'd like to reinforce that the idea is not to enforce any part of > > > this > > > workflow tomo

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:24:29PM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > Good Morning Everyone, > > > > > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future v

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:57:45PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, > > > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager > > workflow. > > This discussion was triggered by the

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Good Morning Everyone, > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager workflow. > This discussion was triggered by the realization that a number of initiatives > are happening around packaging in Fedora

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:32 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, Alright. I don't often reply to discussion threads like this, but here we go. > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager workflow. > This discussion was triggered by the realization t

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Troy Dawson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:56 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 06:38:45AM -0700, Troy Dawson wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:11 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon > > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pie

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 08:47:24AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 9/26/19 8:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Again, I'd like to reinforce that the idea is not to enforce any part of > > this > > workflow tomorrow, it'll be a smooth, slow and long transition. My question > > is > > whe

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 11:36:10AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Good Morning Everyone, > > At Flock, a few of us met to discuss a future vision of the packager workflow. > This discussion was triggered by the realization that a number of initiatives > are happening around packaging in Fedora

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Remi Collet
Le 26/09/2019 à 15:10, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: >> Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : >>> Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: >>> >>> ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-re

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 06:38:45AM -0700, Troy Dawson wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:11 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > > Here is what the vision we came to and

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 26. 09. 19 v 11:36 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): - We need to work on the change logs in the spec files, as otherwise pull-requests are going to conflict more often than not +1 Thou, I would love to have general solution. Not just Fedora-centric. Something which will respect use-case of

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:40:49PM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 26. 09. 19 v 15:10 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we wo

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 9/26/19 8:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: Again, I'd like to reinforce that the idea is not to enforce any part of this workflow tomorrow, it'll be a smooth, slow and long transition. My question is whether this is a place where we want to go or can we come up with a different/better one?:)

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 09:14:38AM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 09:02, Remi Collet wrote: > > > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git i

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 01:15:03PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > > > ○ Every change

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 26. 09. 19 v 15:10 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests IMH

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On Thursday, 26 September 2019 15:01:25 CEST Remi Collet wrote: > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > > > IMHO Have to stay optional, makin

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Troy Dawson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:11 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > > IMHO Have to stay optional, making this ma

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 09:02, Remi Collet wrote: > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > > IMHO Have to stay optional, making this mandatory bei

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 03:01:25PM +0200, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > > IMHO Have to stay optional, making this ma

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Remi Collet
Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests IMHO Have to stay optional, making this mandatory being a terrible headache. RFemi ___

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