Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-13 Thread Ian Malone
On 12 January 2013 19:07, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:01:03 + Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: KDE favourites: For a spin (or formula) it makes sense that the favourites should reflect the spin (or formula) focus. The kickstart updates this through

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-13 Thread Ian Malone
On 12 January 2013 17:02, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Ian Malone wrote: KDE favourites: For a spin (or formula) it makes sense that the favourites should reflect the spin (or formula) focus. The kickstart updates this through /etc/skel/.kde/share/config/kickoffrc and

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-13 Thread inode0
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Greetings. I've whipped up the early ideas of a way to replace (most) spins with something that is more generic and useful. I have signed up for a fudcon session to brainstorm on this idea and see if it can be beaten into a

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-12 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ian Malone wrote: KDE favourites: For a spin (or formula) it makes sense that the favourites should reflect the spin (or formula) focus. The kickstart updates this through /etc/skel/.kde/share/config/kickoffrc and /etc/rc.d/init.d/livesys (on the live sytem the installer is a favourite, so

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:01:03 + Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: Of course in trying to do that what we were really trying to do was amend the defaults users would get on the installed system. Some of this we were able to achieve through /etc/skel files, but that's a non-scaling and

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 January 2013 23:51, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Brendan Jones wrote: The main problem we have with kickstarts at the moment is that there is no way (according to current packaging guidelines) to alter files owned by other packages. This is just plain impossible anyway

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Brendan Jones wrote: The main problem we have with kickstarts at the moment is that there is no way (according to current packaging guidelines) to alter files owned by other packages. This is just plain impossible anyway (except for config files in /etc), no matter what you do (i.e. not just

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/09/2013 12:18 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 11:17:35PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 01/08/2013 08:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: So, what do folks think? Workable? Crazy? Crazy enough to work? And we are supposed to QA this how? Like any software? I'm not sure

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/09/2013 04:34 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 19:18:36 -0500 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 11:17:35PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 01/08/2013 08:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: So, what do folks think? Workable? Crazy? Crazy enough

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 January 2013 04:10, Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/08/2013 09:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Greetings. I've whipped up the early ideas of a way to replace (most) spins with something that is more generic and useful. I have signed up for a fudcon session to brainstorm

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Ian Malone
On 9 January 2013 12:23, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: Down-sides, there'd no longer be a live-cd/dvd as a 'demo' system. You could only try out the formula on an installed system. It looks though like people are already suggesting overlaying a formula somehow to create traditional

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Brendan Jones
On 01/09/2013 01:27 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 9 January 2013 12:23, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: Down-sides, there'd no longer be a live-cd/dvd as a 'demo' system. You could only try out the formula on an installed system. It looks though like people are already suggesting overlaying a

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread John . Florian
From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com Thats not to say perhaps we couldn't think of a clever way to somehow generate images based on them, but it would probibly take some way to take an existing machine and make a live image from it. Not sure how easy that is to do. I think that's quite

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 01:15:29PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Setup a infrastructure/framework around a collection of ansible playbooks to allow our users to simply download a formula for what they want to do and have a curated setup made for them using Fedora packages. I think this is great

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 05:15:02AM +0100, Brendan Jones wrote: no way (according to current packaging guidelines) to alter files owned by other packages. In the future we might like to choose different pulseaudio modules to load, ALSA config based on hardware etc. I don't This is probably not

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 07:36:06AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I'm not sure I understand the question, actually. Can you elaborate? So you want us in the QA community to go through basically a copy concept of puppets/chefs and QA any Formula that has been submitted there? I didn't say

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 08:20:58AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: From that response I gather it is something user setup/install after installing Fedora basically you seem to be then just duplicating and or trying to come up with a better app installer then already exists is that the

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 09 janvier 2013 à 09:24 -0500, Matthew Miller a écrit : On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 07:36:06AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I'm not sure I understand the question, actually. Can you elaborate? So you want us in the QA community to go through basically a copy concept of

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 09:18:55 -0500 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 01:15:29PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Setup a infrastructure/framework around a collection of ansible playbooks to allow our users to simply download a formula for what they want to do

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:59:35 -0500 john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com Thats not to say perhaps we couldn't think of a clever way to somehow generate images based on them, but it would probibly take some way to take an existing machine and make a live image from

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Kevin Fenzi wrote: One of the big questions to answer is distribution. I can see good arguments on the one hand distributing formulas via RPM and on the other having an official Git repository for them. Yep. I am torn here too. rpms get us a lot, but are also

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 01/09/2013 12:26 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Kevin Fenzi wrote: One of the big questions to answer is distribution. I can see good arguments on the one hand distributing formulas via RPM and on the other having an official Git repository for them. Yep. I am torn here

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:50:31 +0100 Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/09/2013 01:27 PM, Ian Malone wrote: On 9 January 2013 12:23, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: Down-sides, there'd no longer be a live-cd/dvd as a 'demo' system. You could only try out the

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Bill Nottingham
Seth Vidal (skvi...@fedoraproject.org) said: One of the big questions to answer is distribution. I can see good arguments on the one hand distributing formulas via RPM and on the other having an official Git repository for them. Yep. I am torn here too. rpms get us a lot, but are also

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Bill Nottingham wrote: Seth Vidal (skvi...@fedoraproject.org) said: One of the big questions to answer is distribution. I can see good arguments on the one hand distributing formulas via RPM and on the other having an official Git repository for them. Yep. I am torn

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-09 Thread Pete Travis
On Jan 9, 2013 12:32 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca wrote: On 01/09/2013 12:26 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Kevin Fenzi wrote: One of the big questions to answer is distribution. I can see good arguments on the one hand distributing formulas via RPM and on the

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-08 Thread John . Florian
From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com Greetings. I've whipped up the early ideas of a way to replace (most) spins with something that is more generic and useful. I have signed up for a fudcon session to brainstorm on this idea and see if it can be beaten into a plan/schedule/feature, or if

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-08 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/08/2013 08:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: So, what do folks think? Workable? Crazy? Crazy enough to work? And we are supposed to QA this how? JBG -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 11:17:35PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 01/08/2013 08:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: So, what do folks think? Workable? Crazy? Crazy enough to work? And we are supposed to QA this how? Like any software? I'm not sure I understand the question, actually. Can you

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-08 Thread Mahrud S
I know that Slax Linux used to have this feature. You could just choose the modules that you want on the website and download a custom live iso with those packages! strikeBut that feature is disabled now, perhaps because/strike they use a new module system now. Ah, here:

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-08 Thread Mahrud S
update: definitely works. It's pretty neat to have a live usb with the exact programs that you like ready in your pocket! How can you create an iso on the fly that fast?! On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Mahrud S dinovi...@gmail.com wrote: I know that Slax Linux used to have this feature. You

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-08 Thread Brendan Jones
On 01/08/2013 09:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Greetings. I've whipped up the early ideas of a way to replace (most) spins with something that is more generic and useful. I have signed up for a fudcon session to brainstorm on this idea and see if it can be beaten into a plan/schedule/feature, or if

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-08 Thread Brendan Jones
On 01/09/2013 05:10 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: On 01/08/2013 09:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Greetings. I've whipped up the early ideas of a way to replace (most) spins with something that is more generic and useful. I have signed up for a fudcon session to brainstorm on this idea and see if it can

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 16:18:56 -0800 Mahrud S dinovi...@gmail.com wrote: I know that Slax Linux used to have this feature. You could just choose the modules that you want on the website and download a custom live iso with those packages! strikeBut that feature is disabled now, perhaps

Re: Feedback wanted: Fedora Formulas

2013-01-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 19:18:36 -0500 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 11:17:35PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 01/08/2013 08:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: So, what do folks think? Workable? Crazy? Crazy enough to work? And we are supposed to QA this