Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Reindl Harald wrote: > and why in the world needs th emenu to be hidden? > [snip, answering separately to the middle paragraph] > > the only goal you achive with all this stuff is people > craing "woooh my system does not boot after kernel-update" > without let them EASY know "hey you can always

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > We provide upstream code in a unified set of repositories, tested to > interact properly. Did I say that we're not supposed to patch code > shipped by upstream? No. What I said - or rather, the belief my > statement was based on, because this isn't exactly what I said - is

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-08 Thread Kamil Paral
> Here's what our policies say: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#All_patches_should_have_an_upstream_bug_link_or_comment > > "All patches should have an upstream bug link or comment > > All patches in Fedora spec files SHOULD have a comment above them > about > their upstr

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 23:29 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Apart from all the bullshit about cars, which part of "it's part of > > upstream grub2" are you people not understanding? This is not our code. > > This is how grub2-mkconfig work

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-04 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Apart from all the bullshit about cars, which part of "it's part of > upstream grub2" are you people not understanding? This is not our code. > This is how grub2-mkconfig works. We are not going to get into the game > of patching bootloader

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.01.2013 17:47, schrieb Adam Jackson: > On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 01:26 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> i would love to also get rid of this useless submenu for >> differenct kernel-versions and ALL the fancy stuff in GRUB >> which is not needed for a clean system boot > > I look forward to y

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-04 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 01:26 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > i would love to also get rid of this useless submenu for > differenct kernel-versions and ALL the fancy stuff in GRUB > which is not needed for a clean system boot I look forward to your patches. - ajax -- devel mailing list devel@lists

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-01-03 17:44 (GMT-0700) Chris Murphy composed: > >> My recollection on actual hardware though for F16 and F17 is that I see a >> GRUB >> menu. At the moment I don't have hardware to test, it's all multi-boot. > > Maybe you, newAnaconda a

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-01-03 17:44 (GMT-0700) Chris Murphy composed: Felix Miata wrote: Maybe a virtual disk installation is somehow categorized as multiboot by the F18 installer in configuring the Grub2 menu? My recollection on actual hardware though for F16 and F17 is that I see a GRUB menu. At the mo

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-01-03 16:51 (GMT-0700) Chris Murphy composed: > >> On 2013-01-03 17:00 (GMT-0500), Mairin Duffy composed: > > >>> It should be hidden for final releases, but not for testing and >>> development releases. You may have upgraded from a beta

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 01:26 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 04.01.2013 01:21, schrieb drago01: > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Máirín Duffy > > wrote: > >> On Thu 03 Jan 2013 04:55:22 PM EST, Chris Murphy wrote: > >>> Documentation says "The GRUB menu defaults to being hidden, > >>> exce

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 3, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Maybe a virtual disk installation is somehow categorized as multiboot by the > F18 installer in configuring the Grub2 menu? My recollection on actual hardware though for F16 and F17 is that I see a GRUB menu. At the moment I don't have hardware

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 3, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Pete Travis wrote: > Since you folks are testing, would anyone mind filing a bug against the > documentation? > I did, I was just trying to get a confirm/deny that this is intended and if it's stable before changing documentation. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Pete Travis
A simple short term solution might be to purge this statement from the documentation for affected releases. If we should expect the splash only in certain cases, of course the docs should state that expected behavior. Since you folks are testing, would anyone mind filing a bug against the document

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.01.2013 01:21, schrieb drago01: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> On Thu 03 Jan 2013 04:55:22 PM EST, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> Documentation says "The GRUB menu defaults to being hidden, >>> except on dual-boot systems." but as far as I know this hasn't been > true

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-01-03 16:51 (GMT-0700) Chris Murphy composed: On 2013-01-03 17:00 (GMT-0500), Mairin Duffy composed: It should be hidden for final releases, but not for testing and development releases. You may have upgraded from a beta or test release, in which case your grub config file allowing it

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Thu 03 Jan 2013 04:55:22 PM EST, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Documentation says "The GRUB menu defaults to being hidden, >> except on dual-boot systems." but as far as I know this hasn't been > true >> since Fedora 16 when GRUB2 started being u

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Thu 03 Jan 2013 04:55:22 PM EST, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Documentation says "The GRUB menu defaults to being hidden, >> except on dual-boot systems." but as far as I know this hasn't been > true >> since Fedora 16 when GRUB2 started being used

Re: GRUB menu hidden by default?

2013-01-03 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Thu 03 Jan 2013 04:55:22 PM EST, Chris Murphy wrote: > Documentation says "The GRUB menu defaults to being hidden, > except on dual-boot systems." but as far as I know this hasn't been > true > since Fedora 16 when GRUB2 started being used. Is there a > plan to revert back to a hidden GRUB menu