Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Al Dunsmuir wrote: > I agree, provided you mean "not necessarily by each package's maintainer". > > In some cases, folks working on the common goal do need the assistance of > the package maintainer. Alternatively, the package maintainer may be able > to make the required changes in a timely mann

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-09-03 at 15:46 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > the alpha was release and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd > is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which > should have been done for F15 > > How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd/sys

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-06 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Tuesday, September 6, 2011, 5:28:34 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: >> There is one thing I have learned ( so far in the conversion process ) >> and that is that the current model surrounding maintainers and >> maintainership followed by various policies surrounding that m

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > There is one thing I have learned ( so far in the conversion process ) > and that is that the current model surrounding maintainers and > maintainership followed by various policies surrounding that model which > we use here in Fedora as in maintainers "Own" their com

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/06/2011 08:39 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > I created a service for wpa_supplicant. Is there something wrong with it? Nope Dan had sanctioned it but then another one appear upstream and as you know we try to avoid deviating from upstream. Not sure if Bill spoke with Dan about this ( I ass

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-06 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2011/9/6 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : > On 09/06/2011 02:55 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) said: >>> the alpha was release and >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd >>> is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-05 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/03/2011 09:47 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 07:46, Reindl Harald >> wrote: .. > We need to get a provenpackager to just poke through all the packages and > fix them instead of waiting for the maintainers. In some cases that would work ( as in

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-05 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/06/2011 02:55 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) said: >> the alpha was release and >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd >> is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which >> should have been done for F15 > Perhaps th

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-05 Thread Bill Nottingham
Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) said: > the alpha was release and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd > is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which > should have been done for F15 Perhaps the feature owner should update it, as per the policy. >

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.09.2011 02:20, schrieb Tom Lane: > Kevin Kofler writes: >> Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 07:46, Reindl Harald >>> wrote: How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd/sysvinit(lsb in the distribution exist until the OS can be called as "clean" like be

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-04 Thread Marcos Mello
Reindl Harald thelounge.net> writes: > > the alpha was release and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd > is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which > should have been done for F15 > > How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd/sysvinit(lsb in t

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-03 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Kofler writes: > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 07:46, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd/sysvinit(lsb in the >>> distribution exist until the OS can be called as "clean" like before >>> F15? >> As many as it takes to get it

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 07:46, Reindl Harald > wrote: >> the alpha was release and >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd is at 0% - why will >> F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which should have been done >> for F15 >> >> How many releases

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 07:46, Reindl Harald wrote: > the alpha was release and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd > is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which > should have been done for F15 > > How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd/sysvinit