Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-26 Thread Steven James Drinnan
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 09:33 +1000, Chris Jones wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/04/10 23:51, Slava Zanko wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folk, I want

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Slava Zanko wrote: For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing (shell aliasing) these and much more utilz to another names? No. It's a quite silly idea. 1. Those tools have been called like that

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On 21/04/10 07:00, Kevin Kofler wrote: Slava Zanko wrote: For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing (shell aliasing) these and much more utilz to another names? --snip-- 5. IMHO, that kind of

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On 19/04/10 23:51, Slava Zanko wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Bookmark this:

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Slava Zanko slavaza...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Slava Zanko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Murphy wrote: Bookmark this: http://ss64.com/bash/ I know about :) This idea just try for standartization of command names... I know about posix and LSB, but these standards don't make logic in the names of commands. Okay, as I see, this idea

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
20.04.2010 03:29, Ryan Rix пишет: On Mon 19 April 2010 3:51:23 pm Slava Zanko wrote: Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) fo...@hubbitus.com.ru wrote: 20.04.2010 03:29, Ryan Rix пишет: On Mon 19 April 2010 3:51:23 pm Slava Zanko wrote: Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Athmane Madjoudj athma...@gmail.com wrote: I'm against making a mess of PATH with a crapload of symlinks. If this were to happen, it should happen at a bashrc alias level, and even then I'm still against it. i agree, also the proposed commands are too long

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Slava Zanko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 drago01 wrote: I also against making it global by default. But this can be done in separate folder, not to standard /usr/bin, and then added for users who want it just add it into PATH. Yep, of course. This idea unobtrusive and don't hard for

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Alexander Boström
tis 2010-04-20 klockan 01:51 +0300 skrev Slava Zanko: For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing (shell aliasing) these and much more utilz to another names? The present utilities makes sense

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 16:56 +0200, Alexander Boström wrote: tis 2010-04-20 klockan 01:51 +0300 skrev Slava Zanko: For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing (shell aliasing) these and much

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Chris Jones
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/04/10 23:51, Slava Zanko wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present utilites have sence

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 10:00 +0300, Slava Zanko wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Murphy wrote: Bookmark this: http://ss64.com/bash/ I know about :) This idea just try for standartization of command names... I know about posix and LSB, but these standards don't

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Thomas Janssen wrote: Agreed. Plus a command like: filesystem.remove would confuse and scare novices. Ugh, that removes my filesystem Well, if it scares them enough not to abuse rm -rf, that's a good thing. ;-) IMHO file deletions should always be performed through a graphical file manager

Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Slava Zanko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing (shell aliasing) these and much

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Ryan Rix
On Mon 19 April 2010 3:51:23 pm Slava Zanko wrote: Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing (shell aliasing)

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
I'm against making a mess of PATH with a crapload of symlinks. If this were to happen, it should happen at a bashrc alias level, and even then I'm still against it. i agree, also the proposed commands are too long to be typed in the terminal. they look like name-spaces in a programming

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Chris Tyler
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 01:51 +0300, Slava Zanko wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
i agree, also the proposed commands are too long to be typed in the terminal. they look like name-spaces in a programming language Best regards Maybe PASH is what you are searching: http://pash.sourceforge.net/ -- Athmane Madjoudj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 01:51 +0300, Slava Zanko wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2010/4/20 Slava Zanko slavaza...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 02:06 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, 2010/4/20 Slava Zanko slavaza...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... For example, all present utilites have sence

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/4/20 Bernd Stramm bernd.str...@gmail.com: On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 02:06 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, 2010/4/20 Slava Zanko slavaza...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folk, I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites...