Jan Zelený wrote:
> On 15. 11. 2014 at 14:51:32, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Jan Silhan wrote:
> > >> 3. The page says "The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
> > >> weak relations or the other way round" does dnf do that? or not?
> > >
> > > DNF doesn't do that and never will. IMO that
On 15. 11. 2014 at 14:51:32, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jan Silhan wrote:
> >> 3. The page says "The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
> >> weak relations or the other way round" does dnf do that? or not?
> >
> > DNF doesn't do that and never will. IMO that would be too hackish
> > behavi
On Sat, 2014-11-15 at 14:51 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> It's not "hackish", it's "configurable". Letting the user decide
> whether
> they want to have weak dependencies installed or not is part of the
> whole
> point of having them.
I agree. --no-recommends is a very basic feature of package ma
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Björn Persson wrote:
> Jan Silhan wrote:
> > On 10. 11. 2014 at 10:31:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > 3. The page says "The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
> > > weak relations or the other way round" does dnf do that? or not?
> >
> > DNF doesn't do
Jan Silhan wrote:
> On 10. 11. 2014 at 10:31:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > 3. The page says "The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
> > weak relations or the other way round" does dnf do that? or not?
>
> DNF doesn't do that and never will. IMO that would be too hackish behavior.
You r
Jan Silhan wrote:
>> 3. The page says "The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
>> weak relations or the other way round" does dnf do that? or not?
>
> DNF doesn't do that and never will. IMO that would be too hackish
> behavior.
It's not "hackish", it's "configurable". Letting the use
On 10. 11. 2014 at 10:31:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:34:16 +0100
>
> Jan Zelený wrote:
> > Dnf should already have full support of this feature, at least that
> > is the plan. Some people already tested it and so far it seems it
> > works as expected. The semantics is describe
On 11/10/2014 06:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
I'd personally say people shouldn't start using this... we should be
able to work up the cases or whatever... it just means that in f21
people using yum (the default) will get sometimes different behavior
from dnf (not yet the default).
But F21 is bran
On 10. 11. 2014 at 10:31:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:34:16 +0100
>
> Jan Zelený wrote:
> > Dnf should already have full support of this feature, at least that
> > is the plan. Some people already tested it and so far it seems it
> > works as expected. The semantics is describe
Dne 11.11.2014 v 09:14 Vít Ondruch napsal(a):
>
> Dne 10.11.2014 v 18:31 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a):
> >> We invite anyone to start using this feature to help us sand off the
> >> rough edges. Any contribution (documentation, bug reports,
> >> patches, ...) will help us. We would just like to ask you fo
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Dne 10.11.2014 v 18:31 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a):
>> We invite anyone to start using this feature to help us sand off the
>> rough edges. Any contribution (documentation, bug reports,
>> patches, ...) will help us. We would just like to ask you for
>> pat
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:34:16 +0100
Jan Zelený wrote:
> Dnf should already have full support of this feature, at least that
> is the plan. Some people already tested it and so far it seems it
> works as expected. The semantics is described here:
>
> http://rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/Dependencies
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:46:54 +0100
Jan Zelený wrote:
> On 10. 11. 2014 at 13:16:58, Michal Sekletar wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:45:05AM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote:
> >
> >
> > > However, what I'm not sure about is whether it's already possible
> > > to build weak-deps enhanced rpms in Fe
On 10. 11. 2014 at 13:16:58, Michal Sekletar wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:45:05AM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote:
>
>
> > However, what I'm not sure about is whether it's already possible to build
> > weak-deps enhanced rpms in Fedora, has someone tested that? I've heard
> > it's
> > possible in
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:45:05AM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote:
> However, what I'm not sure about is whether it's already possible to build
> weak-deps enhanced rpms in Fedora, has someone tested that? I've heard it's
> possible in COPR but I'm not sure about koji.
I tested this and building weak-
On 10. 11. 2014 at 10:04:53, Michal Sekletar wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 09:54:35PM +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> > Hello All!
> > RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
> > the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
> > (building RPM with
On 8. 11. 2014 at 16:49:18, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 21:54:35 +0400
>
> Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> > Hello All!
> > RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
> > the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
> > (building RPM with Recomme
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 09:54:35PM +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> Hello All!
> RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
> the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
> (building RPM with Recommends/Suggests tags)?
I don't think it is ok to start us
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> From: "Michael Schroeder"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:03:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Status of weak dependencies support in Fedora 21+
>
> On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 11:26:5
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 11:26:50PM +0100, drago01 wrote:
> Well if you have package foo that suggests bar and you do
>
> dnf/yum install foo it should simply install both, but if you do
> yum/dnf remove bar it should leave foo installed.
>
> But neither is implemented.
Because you're using Sugge
On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 21:54:35 +0400
Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> Hello All!
> RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
> the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
> (building RPM with Recommends/Suggests tags)?
My understanding:
rpm - accepts them a
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
>
> On 8 November 2014 10:54, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
>>
>> Hello All!
>> RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
>> the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
>> (building RPM with Re
On 8 November 2014 10:54, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> Hello All!
> RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
> the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
> (building RPM with Recommends/Suggests tags)?
>
> I have a real-world example where I'd like to
Hello All!
RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
(building RPM with Recommends/Suggests tags)?
I have a real-world example where I'd like to mark a dependency as
Suggests instead of Requires and want t
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