Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 23:31 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit :
> > DejaVu had already proven at that time fontforge was more than good
> > enough for a complex modern font.
>
> In the sense that you can write a complex application in assembler,
> yes. With an assembler full of quirks and bug
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 23:31 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler wrote:
> > DejaVu had already proven at that time fontforge was more than good enough
> > for a complex modern font.
>
> In the sense that you can write a complex application in assembler, yes. With
> an assembler full of quirks and bugs. I h
> DejaVu had already proven at that time fontforge was more than good enough
> for a complex modern font.
In the sense that you can write a complex application in assembler, yes. With
an assembler full of quirks and bugs. I have used Fontforge, I know why I ran
from it and why people have been
Nikolaus Waxweiler wrote:
> It is my upstream opinion that the entire free desktop landscape should
> use Noto Sans/Serif (UI) as the default (fallback) font for everything and
> not ship anything else in a base system, except DejaVu Mono because Noto
> Mono has only a regular face.
For the record
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 19:47 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit :
>
> 2. There were no obvious ways to contribute because open-source
> tooling either didn't exist or was something you didn't want to use
> (Fontforge I'm looking at you)
Please, don't rewrite history, DejaVu had already proven
1. Gnome and Ubuntu had good reasons: DejaVu fits the bill when you want a free
Verdana for text and terminal, but the design isn't made for UI or branding.
Ubuntu is significantly nicer to look at than something using DejaVu.
2. There were no obvious ways to contribute because open-source tooli
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 11:49 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit :
> You sound like you need to cool your head.
>
> > It's kind of sad that despite being is stasis for years DejaVu is
> > still leagues away from prototypes dumped on our users just for the
> > coolness factor
>
> Well duh ;)
An
> But even compared to Noto, DejaVu has lots coverage for convenient glyphs
> that people added over the years
People who want those can and probably know how to continue to use DejaVu or
one of its derivatives. Cathedrals and bazaars can happily coexist :)
This is about setting a sane and cons
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 11:49 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit :
>
> Not sure what you're referring to? Do you mean something specific
> about the Notos?
I mean all the idiots that will look down on any font with some
community development, because “professional” is better. It’s not
necessari
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 07:14 -0400, Neal Gompa a écrit :
>
> I personally would prefer if we used Noto across the board. It's a
> fantastic font family, and its CJK and Indic font representation is
> fairly solid for me.
Anyway and just to be clear I'll be personally happy with any default
FL
You sound like you need to cool your head.
> It's kind of sad that despite being is stasis for years DejaVu is still
> leagues away from prototypes dumped on our users just for the coolness factor
Well duh ;)
> And, I wouldn't put to much weight on “professional” development. The last
> years
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 04:07 -0700, Adam Williamson a écrit :
>
> Are you conflating Cantarell and Noto there? I am not especially
> qualified to judge the quality of any of these fonts, but the Noto
> family's script coverage seems pretty solid:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noto_fonts#L
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 12:00 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>> Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 10:43 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit :
>> > >
>> >
>> > Fine with me actually. DejaVu only having two weights (the thin looks
>> > more experimental
On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 12:00 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 10:43 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit :
> > >
> >
> > Fine with me actually. DejaVu only having two weights (the thin looks
> > more experimental to me) is going to clash with Gnome's design
> > intentions th
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 10:43 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit :
> >
> Fine with me actually. DejaVu only having two weights (the thin looks
> more experimental to me) is going to clash with Gnome's design
> intentions though from what I hear. Noto would still be preferable
> because it's the
> Users prefer sans and sans mono to be synchronized
Weight parity is in the works :)
https://github.com/googlei18n/noto-fonts-alpha/tree/master/from-pipeline/unhinted/otf/sans/NotoSansMono.
A true italic seems to be a way off though.
> so maybe it’s time to put back as default a font with dece
Le vendredi 16 mars 2018 à 09:43 +, Nikolaus Waxweiler a écrit :
> It is my upstream opinion that the entire free desktop landscape
> should use Noto Sans/Serif (UI) as the default (fallback) font for
> everything and not ship anything else in a base system, except DejaVu
> Mono because Noto Mo
It is my upstream opinion that the entire free desktop landscape should use
Noto Sans/Serif (UI) as the default (fallback) font for everything and not ship
anything else in a base system, except DejaVu Mono because Noto Mono has only a
regular face.
Self-quote:
> The difference between Noto S
Hi all,
In Workstation, our UI font is Cantarell.
I was chatting to Cantarell's upstream maintainer, Nikolaus Waxweiler
yesterday and he said that we should be using Noto Sans UI as a fallback
for glyphs where Cantarell lacks coverage (cyrillic, for example). Right
now we're falling back to DejaV
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