Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-17 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-06-16, 15:06 GMT, drago01 wrote: yum-cron can actually apply updates [] That sounds dangerous ... updates are not really atomic (i.e not at all) doing them silently in the background is a very bad idea. Yes, yum-cron has been hated by Seth for years, but there was still this

dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Neal Becker
Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Tim Lauridsen
Bugzilla is the right place for a an RFE, not fdl :) Tim On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement -- devel mailing list

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Lubomir Rintel
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 08:50 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/blob/master/etc/systemd/dnf-makecache.service I think it comes with the dnf distribution package

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement Already exists: $ rpm -ql dnf | grep systemd /usr/lib/systemd/system/dnf-makecache.service

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:11:43AM -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement Already exists: $ rpm -ql dnf | grep systemd /usr/lib/systemd/system/dnf-makecache.service

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:11:43AM -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement Already exists: $ rpm -ql dnf | grep

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Petr Spacek
On 16.6.2014 17:06, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:11:43AM -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: That's not the most descriptiony of all descriptions ever, but if the name is any indication, it is just a thing which keeps the cache up to date. yum-cron can actually apply updates [] That sounds dangerous ... updates are not

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: That's not the most descriptiony of all descriptions ever, but if the name is any indication, it is just a thing which keeps the cache up to date.

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Neal Becker
drago01 wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: That's not the most descriptiony of all descriptions ever, but if the name is any indication, it is just a thing which keeps the cache up

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: drago01 wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: That's not the most descriptiony of all descriptions ever, but if

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Farkas Levente
On 06/16/2014 05:06 PM, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:11:43AM -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.06.2014 17:41, schrieb drago01: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: This server is almost never rebooted, and in many years running yum-cron I've never had any problem. What is the difference between automated update vs. a manual update, in terms of

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement dnf's cache is updated by by a systemd service, not dynamic when executed like yum. so if yum-cron is only

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Neal Becker
Tim Lauridsen wrote: Bugzilla is the right place for a an RFE, not fdl :) Tim On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:22:56PM +0200, drago01 wrote: Admin: OK I will reboot box 'foo' reboots box 'foo' that was running an update *boom* (well actually that case can be solved by using systemd-inhibitors ... does it do that?) It doesn't currently, but that's a good suggestion. Hmmm

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 17:49:08 +0200 Tim Lauridsen tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement dnf's cache is

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:22:56PM +0200, drago01 wrote: Admin: OK I will reboot box 'foo' reboots box 'foo' that was running an update *boom* (well actually that case can be solved by using systemd-inhibitors

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 16 June 2014 09:22, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: That's not the most descriptiony of all descriptions ever, but if the name is any indication,

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 June 2014 09:22, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: That's not the