More Planning Thoughts

2008-04-16 Thread Michael Stone
Dear devel@, While I'm still rather far away from done, I may have imposed enough structure on my present fragmented reflections on our goals to be worth your review [1]. [1]: http://teach.laptop.org/~mstone/planning/r1 As always, questions comments are greatly appreciated. In this

Re: More Planning Thoughts

2008-04-16 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Michael Stone wrote: Dear devel@, While I'm still rather far away from done, I may have imposed enough structure on my present fragmented reflections on our goals to be worth your review [1]. [1]: http://teach.laptop.org/~mstone/planning/r1 Having just read it,

Re: How to use Salut?

2008-04-16 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mardi 15 avril 2008 à 20:32 +0200, Morgan Collett a écrit : A very quick test for which one is running is: ps ax |grep telepathy - if it shows telepathy-gabble, you're on a jabber server. If it shows telepathy-salut, you're on salut. If it shows neither, then something made salut crash -

Record (was Re: [sugar] VoiceThreads ... a very interesting education service)

2008-04-16 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** except for the (my opinion) design flaw where you can't share existing recordings, only ones you record after someone else joins a shared session – so no point taking a bunch of photos of things and then clicking

Re: More Planning Thoughts

2008-04-16 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Michael, In recognition of our limited measurement and release resources, we should concentrate our efforts on two minimally coupled topics... This seems pretty arbitrary and I'm not sure how you are coming to that conclusion. I think Greg provides great suggestions on how to reach consensus

Re: [sugar] Record (was Re: VoiceThreads ... a very interesting education service)

2008-04-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if Journal item sharing arrives as some point, this will be a practical way of generating and sharing similar content. Yes - although

Advice on implementing a zooming interface?

2008-04-16 Thread chombee
I thought this list might be a good place to ask for advice. I have tested a paper + card version of a prototype story writing tool with children, and now need to implement a computer version of the prototype. I don't have my

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-16 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Benj. Mako Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Martin Langhoff Personally, I have been dreaming of a mix between ion3 and Sugar's

Re: How to use Salut?

2008-04-16 Thread James Simmons
Morgan and Guillaume, I tried using avahi-browse -a on openSUSE 10.2 last night and it told me that the daemon was not running. I checked the xinted panel in YAST and there was no entry for activating avahi, even though I installed avahi as part of the SUSE distribution. In any case, if it

Re: How to use Salut?

2008-04-16 Thread Dafydd Harries
Ar 15/04/2008 am 10:18, ysgrifennodd James Simmons: Morgan, Thanks for the information on ejabberd. I may try that this weekend. I am still puzzled by salut, though. I am using sugar-jhbuild on openSUSE 10.2 and everything seemed to compile OK, but running two instances of Sugar does

Re: How to use Salut?

2008-04-16 Thread Dafydd Harries
Ar 16/04/2008 am 09:33, ysgrifennodd James Simmons: Morgan and Guillaume, I tried using avahi-browse -a on openSUSE 10.2 last night and it told me that the daemon was not running. I checked the xinted panel in YAST and there was no entry for activating avahi, even though I installed avahi

Reminder: Software Status Meeting @ 1300 EST in #olpc-meeting on irc.freenode.org

2008-04-16 Thread Michael Stone
Come and share your bugs. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: More Planning Thoughts

2008-04-16 Thread Joshua Minor
On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Michael Stone wrote: (Also, this week, particular thanks are due to Greg for his excellent and intriguing discussion [2] of, in my words, how to avoid painting your team into ugly corners.) [2]: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mstone/

[PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-16 Thread Martin Dengler
Support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon and upgrade to consistency with battery icon design from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Frame#06. Controversially (or so I think), this commit includes a very naive algorithm to calculate battery time/life remaining, as a principled

Re: working version of Watch and Listen?

2008-04-16 Thread Josh Schonstal
The version that is in git should work. It's working on the emulator, and as far as I know it should be working on the laptop as well. You could download it and test it, but from what I know we haven't done much to WL after finishing the latest version (that xo appears to be version 10, which is

Re: working version of Watch and Listen?

2008-04-16 Thread Peter Krenesky
The link to version 10 should work now. the version in git is actually version 12, but it was only minor changes to add localization/interationalization. Josh Schonstal wrote: The version that is in git should work. It's working on the emulator, and as far as I know it should be working on

TamTam packaging

2008-04-16 Thread Jani Monoses
Hi Olivier, I have a few questions regarding the .deb packaging of the four TamTam activities. -why are the cpp sources in the MANIFEST and consequently in the xo? -which versions do you recommend for packaging. Latest are 48 and 49 , depending on the activity I got them to build and start on

Re: TamTam packaging

2008-04-16 Thread Olivier Bélanger
Hi Jani, First of all, our main goal is to make TamTam runs on the XO. We didn't think yet about porting it to others system... Le 08-04-16 à 17:44, Jani Monoses a écrit : Hi Olivier, I have a few questions regarding the .deb packaging of the four TamTam activities. -why are the cpp

How do I resart XWindows when running emulation under QEMU

2008-04-16 Thread Steve Lewis
title says is all Crtl-Alt has a special meaning in an emulator and Crtl-Alt-Backspace does not work in either windows or linux. On linux it does some very funky things to the host XWindows ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

QEMU says out of disk space

2008-04-16 Thread Steve Lewis
I am trying to do development on an image in QEMU rinning under windows or linux. I am also mounting the image with sshfs or sftpdrive on linux and windows respectively. I am getting two issues - sometimes the image insists there is no disk space left - this ofter prevents Xwindows from

Building an image of a real OLPC

2008-04-16 Thread Steve Lewis
Is there any way do build a disk image of a physical OLPC for backup and development under an emulator ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Building an image of a real OLPC

2008-04-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 06:20:12PM -0700, Steve Lewis wrote: Is there any way do build a disk image of a physical OLPC for backup and development under an emulator One method is to mount the NAND over sshfs and to copy the files you want. Another method is to save a NAND image to a USB key or

Re: How do I resart XWindows when running emulation under QEMU

2008-04-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 06:13:16PM -0700, Steve Lewis wrote: title says is all Crtl-Alt has a special meaning in an emulator and Crtl-Alt-Backspace does not work in either windows or linux. On linux it does some very funky things to the host XWindows QEMU has a 'sendkey' command that can be

Re: More planning thoughts

2008-04-16 Thread Jameson Chema Quinn
Here's my POV on the issues... issue affects all users affects all developers radical change suggested tolerability of current state of affairs how hard to improve power management 6 2 ? 5 3 mesh 6 4 6 4 5 both of the above together 7 datastore 8 8 10 3 5*

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
I have been told that the Uruguay machines are supposed to have good battery holders, so my earlier suggestion about coin-cell batteries popping out of the holder might be incorrect. However, we have also seen a problem where some of the coin-cell batteries are defective, so it would be

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-16 Thread Hal Murray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have been told that the Uruguay machines are supposed to have good battery holders, so my earlier suggestion about coin-cell batteries popping out of the holder might be incorrect. However, we have also seen a problem where some of the coin-cell batteries are

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-16 Thread John Watlington
That voltage has to be read with DC power and the main battery removed to be meaningful. There is a trickle charging circuit in play if there is any other source of power. wad On Apr 17, 2008, at 1:02 AM, Hal Murray wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have been told that the Uruguay machines

Re: Building an image of a real OLPC

2008-04-16 Thread Kurt Gramlich
* Steve Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080417 03:21]: Is there any way do build a disk image of a physical OLPC for backup and development under an emulator Have a look at our XO-LiveackupCD http://dev.laptop.org/pub/livebackupcd Regards/AmicaLinuxement/Saludos/Viele Gruesse! Kurt Gramlich

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Benj. Mako Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Martin Langhoff Personally, I have been dreaming of a mix between ion3 and Sugar's 4-zoom-stages. Talking with some hard-core ion3 friends, they seemed to be convinced that

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-16 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Benj. Mako Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Martin Langhoff Personally, I have been dreaming of a mix between ion3 and Sugar's

Re: [Server-devel] [sugar] sugar roadmap

2008-04-16 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
quote who=Marco Pesenti Gritti date=Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 03:22:46PM +0200 Is there anything I'm missing? Is the point to be able to run desktop applications? Ion has the ability to launch different types of workspaces. There are three by default (although we could add to that). One of these is