Re: New ssh key fingerprint for dev.laptop.org.

2008-05-14 Thread Michael Stone
I have renamed the authorized_keys or authorized_keys2 files for eight accounts on teach.laptop.org which contained weak keys or which caused the checking script to report a warning when processed. Please contact me to resolve your account status if you have an account but are unable to authenticat

Strange 755 mode on .sugar/default/owner.key

2008-05-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
I just spent a bit of time trying to understand why .sugar/default/owner.key was 755 on the xo am working on. I can't find any plausible reason, the key creation does the right thing, nothing seems to chmod it, and I haven't chmoded anything - but so it was. But I thought I'd mention it, in case s

New ssh key fingerprint for dev.laptop.org.

2008-05-14 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Two annoucements: * The SSH RSA fingerprint for dev.laptop.org has changed to: 65:2c:41:29:54:03:70:d9:c5:b9:5e:5a:62:33:d6:d1. * Debian and Ubuntu have announced a bug in their OpenSSL cryptographic key generator, with the result that keys created by the affected versions are "weak" k

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jameson "Chema" Quinn wrote: | One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install | compile .pyc files, with (tiny) extra points if the .pyc gets hints to not | use jffs2 compression. This is on my gameplan with the bundle forma

New faster build 1949

2008-05-14 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1949 Changes in build 1949 from build: 1947 Size delta: -2.50M -etoys 2.3.1896-1 +etoys 3.0.1998-1 -squeak-vm 3.9-12olpc5 +squeak-vm 3.10-3olpc1 --- Changes for etoys 3.0.1998-1 from 2.3.1896-1 --- + VM support for GStreamer, XIM, asyn

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install >> compile .pyc files > > There are .pyc files here and there in the XO core software. I do > not expect to myself be changing Activity code --

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thinking about the "hot corners" pop-up frame thingy, Nepal asked that >> be deprecated and I agree based on my personal experience and that of my >> kids. The only thing I have h

New joyride build 1949

2008-05-14 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1949 Changes in build 1949 from build: 1947 Size delta: -2.63M -etoys 2.3.1896-1 +etoys 3.0.1998-1 -squeak-vm 3.9-12olpc5 +squeak-vm 3.10-3olpc1 --- Changes for etoys 3.0.1998-1 from 2.3.1896-1 --- + VM support for GStreamer, XIM, asy

Keyboard Support for Haiti & Ethiopia - OLPC 8.1.1 bugfix release

2008-05-14 Thread Michael Stone
--- officially --- According to tickets #6973 and #6945, 703 loads the wrong keyboard map for Haiti and inappropriately invokes GTK-IM for Ethiopia. It is proposed that we make a small bug-fix release to allow Haiti and Mongolia to make effective use of their laptops with a 703-like build. The US

Discussion about Flash

2008-05-14 Thread Sofia Papoutsidaki
To sum up, which version of Flash is it better to be used by someone who wants to create a dvd for OLPC? Also, is Anvil Studio appropriate for music effects? And finally, may we attach some video-recorded schenes in the dvd? ___ Devel mailing lis

Browse startuptime

2008-05-14 Thread g1g1tester
> cat /boot/olpc_build > faster 1815 browse starts in just over 10 seconds (12-13 until \"OLPC Library\" loads compleatly) just another data-point This anonymous email was sent using Send Anonymous Email - http://www.sendanonymousemail.net. _

Re: Keyboard layout issues

2008-05-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 05:12:08PM -0400, Kim Quirk wrote: > Once the next step is figured out -- packaging, do we start a 704 build > (based on 703) with just these fixes? Or do I test them out in a joyride > first? When they are created, I recommend that we ask Dennis to apply these packages to

Re: School server stuff

2008-05-14 Thread David Woodhouse
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 23:49 -0400, John Watlington wrote: > On May 12, 2008, at 8:46 PM, Marcus Leech wrote: > > A few questions: > > > > What driver is required on an ordinary Linux system for the active > > antennae? > > [I ask because plugging one in to a hot-off-the-presses F9 system > > ca

Re: Keyboard layout issues

2008-05-14 Thread Kim Quirk
This looks great, Sayamindu! Thanks for getting to this so quickly. Michael, Once the next step is figured out -- packaging, do we start a 704 build (based on 703) with just these fixes? Or do I test them out in a joyride first? Please tell me when there is a build I can test these fixes on. Reg

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 01:00:32PM -0700, John Gilmore wrote: > I've often wanted the close-box to be in the Frame itself, so that there's > a short and totally deterministic way to tell someone how to exit the > current application. Providing an obvious close-button outside of the activity is a g

Re: Keyboard layout issues

2008-05-14 Thread Michael Stone
Sayamindu, Thanks for the awesome writeup. Do you feel comfortable enough with Fedora packaging to take responsibility for providing 703-compatible packages containing these changes? Thanks, Michael Status fragment: #6973 PKG ??? (Production problem: Haiti keyboard doesn't match k

Re: What's the latest "safe" Joyride build to use?

2008-05-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.05.2008, at 21:47, Marcus Leech wrote: > I updgraded from 1918 to 1946 today, and found that most of the > activities had disappeared, they weren't even > in the "list" view. You have to install activities manually. Here is a script that may help: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joy

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread John Gilmore
> Specifically, check out Feel free to look at the latest at > wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Frame for details on the changes which will > imbue the Frame with much more utility. We still need to address the > usability concerns, naturally, ... See dev.laptop.org/ticket/4910 for a critique of the us

What's the latest "safe" Joyride build to use?

2008-05-14 Thread Marcus Leech
I updgraded from 1918 to 1946 today, and found that most of the activities had disappeared, they weren't even in the "list" view. -- Marcus LeechMail: Dept 1A12, M/S: 04352P16 Security Standards AdvisorPhone: (ESN) 393-9145 +1 613 763 9145 Strategic Stand

Keyboard layout issues

2008-05-14 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hi all, For the past few days have been looking at the various keyboard related issues, especially the following http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6973: (Production problem: Haiti keyboard doesn't match keyboard mappings) http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6945: (MFG Problem: Ethiopian keyboards don't provid

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:56 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * More notifications? > > > > How can we know which areas in the UI are in most need of more feedback? > > > Eben posted about th

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Michael Stone
> > > Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August > > release? > > > > Personally I think it's OK. It won't hurt to try to do better if we > > have time obviously... > > Let me clarify. I think activities launch is OK. Stuff like frame > responsiveness and activity switch

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Tomeu, Walter, et al, > > FYI Uruguay already posted some presentations and training based on the > existing UI. > > See: http://www.ceibalflorida.blogspot.com/ posts from April. I'm not up > to speed on pro

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Eben Eliason
Pentagram and myself have been putting effort into solidifying designs for Sugar Groups. In a first rendition, it shouldn't require much more than an extension of the invitation framework to support group invites, and a simple UI for creating a group. I think even without advanced features such as

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Jim Gettys
Has Firefox 3- B5 landed in Joyride? it is much faster starting up than the FF3B2 we had in the older systems (not to mention immensely better on memory usage). - Jim On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 14:57 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Mikus

New faster build 1947

2008-05-14 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1947 Changes in build 1947 from build: 1946 Size delta: 0.00M -rdesktop 1.5.0-2.fc7 +rdesktop 1.6.0-1.fc7 -libvorbis 1:1.1.2-3.fc7 +libvorbis 1:1.1.2-4.fc7 --- Changes for rdesktop 1.6.0-1.fc7 from 1.5.0-2.fc7 --- + Update to 1.6.0 --

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install > compile .pyc files There are .pyc files here and there in the XO core software. I do not expect to myself be changing Activity code -- but if the OLPC is supposed to be "easy enough for a kid to program" - *someone*

New joyride build 1947

2008-05-14 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1947 Changes in build 1947 from build: 1946 Size delta: 0.00M -rdesktop 1.5.0-2.fc7 +rdesktop 1.6.0-1.fc7 -libvorbis 1:1.1.2-3.fc7 +libvorbis 1:1.1.2-4.fc7 --- Changes for rdesktop 1.6.0-1.fc7 from 1.5.0-2.fc7 --- + Update to 1.6.0 -

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thinking about the "hot corners" pop-up frame thingy, Nepal asked that > be deprecated and I agree based on my personal experience and that of my > kids. The only thing I have heard people use it for is the copy

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Greg Smith (gregmsmi)
Hi Tomeu, Walter, et al, FYI Uruguay already posted some presentations and training based on the existing UI. See: http://www.ceibalflorida.blogspot.com/ posts from April. I'm not up to speed on proposed Sugar changes so it may have minimal impact. Thinking about the "hot corners" pop-up frame t

Volunteers/help for sugar/cerebro integration

2008-05-14 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
Hi, I'm looking for help/volunteers to assist with the integration process of cerebro [1] into sugar. Cerebro offers a fast and efficient data transport and collaboration mechanism between tens of XOs in simple mesh. Using cerebro we can make the simple mesh scale as well as the current limit

New faster build 1946

2008-05-14 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build1946 Changes in build 1946 from build: 1940 Size delta: 0.00M -telepathy-gabble 0.7.5-1.olpc2 +telepathy-gabble 0.7.6-1.olpc2 --- Changes for telepathy-gabble 0.7.6-1.olpc2 from 0.7.5-1.olpc2 --- + Update to 0.7.6 + Move html docs to

New joyride build 1946

2008-05-14 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1946 Changes in build 1946 from build: 1938 Size delta: 0.00M -telepathy-gabble 0.7.5-1.olpc2 +telepathy-gabble 0.7.6-1.olpc2 --- Changes for telepathy-gabble 0.7.6-1.olpc2 from 0.7.5-1.olpc2 --- + Update to 0.7.6 + Move html docs t

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> If you could download the latest joyride, time startup and open a > ticket that would be useful. 25 seconds are too much obviously. I took the time on Joyride 1932, which had been manually updated (via yum install) with cups-libs 1:1.2.12-11.fc7 and telepathy-glib 0.7.8-1.olpc2, to bring it up

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Jameson "Chema" Quinn
One low-hanging fruit for faster activity start is having activity install compile .pyc files, with (tiny) extra points if the .pyc gets hints to not use jffs2 compression. This is on my gameplan with the bundle format update stuff, but I have gotten stuck on the signatures (openssl cannot read ssh

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities > > > > Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? > > I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1. My average time to launch Browse > (from

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Walter Bender
was that joyride or the faster build? -walter On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities >> >> Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? > > I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1.

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities > > Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1. My average time to launch Browse (from the time I click in the F3 Activity Ring on the Browse icon, to the time when I can clic

Re: Help Running Non-python program on OLPC

2008-05-14 Thread Bobby Powers
2008/5/14 shivaprasad javali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi All, > > I am trying to install a new activity written in c++ on the OLPC. > I tried writing a python script which just launches my application and > setting the approproate properties in the activity.info file. It launched > allrigh

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Walter Bender
> * New Sugar UI? Should continue with some specific goals on how to > roll out the new features so it won't be difficult for people. Wad > brought up the issue that Peru has already started printing a manual > based on the old UI. I've been talking with the Peru folks about this too. The percen

Help Running Non-python program on OLPC

2008-05-14 Thread shivaprasad javali
Hi All, I am trying to install a new activity written in c++ on the OLPC. I tried writing a python script which just launches my application and setting the approproate properties in the activity.info file. It launched allright but i am getting two windows one blank window for the oython

Re: [PATCH stable] Separate multicast configuration for mesh and wlan interfaces.

2008-05-14 Thread Holger Schurig
> -- http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/21/334 +1 > -- http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/6/23/189 +1 I always mostly create patches which are checkpatch.pl clean, even following the 80 columns rule mostly, but sometimes I delibertaly ignored this rule. For me, it should be a 132 columns rule :-) ___

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Datastore upgrade > > Which are the requirements for the DataStore in the August release? I think it was proposed to focus on backups for August and "address" stability concerns that way. At this date and with all t

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mercredi 14 mai 2008 à 11:48 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso a écrit : > * Groups, models for groups (Peru, Hernan) > > Is this groups in Sugar? Do we have some kind of requirements? There are some discussions about groups here: https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4043 G.

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > have some doubts about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Priorities-2008 > > > > * More responsive UI - faster launch o

Re: [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > have some doubts about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Priorities-2008 > > * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities > > Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? Perso

Re: [PATCH stable] Separate multicast configuration for mesh and wlan interfaces.

2008-05-14 Thread David Woodhouse
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 02:46 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:39:19 +0100 David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 02:17 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:44:12 +0100 David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > >

OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release

2008-05-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, have some doubts about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Priorities-2008 * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release? * More notifications? How can we know which areas in the UI are in most need of more fee

Re: [PATCH stable] Separate multicast configuration for mesh and wlan interfaces.

2008-05-14 Thread Andrew Morton
On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:39:19 +0100 David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 02:17 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:44:12 +0100 David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > I'm sorry if that offends you, but making code more readable hel

Re: [PATCH stable] Separate multicast configuration for mesh and wlan interfaces.

2008-05-14 Thread David Woodhouse
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 02:17 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:44:12 +0100 David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm sorry if that offends you, but making code more readable helps me > > find real bugs, and that is more important to me than the 80-column > > rule. > >

Re: [PATCH stable] Separate multicast configuration for mesh and wlan interfaces.

2008-05-14 Thread Andrew Morton
On Wed, 14 May 2008 09:44:12 +0100 David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sorry if that offends you, but making code more readable helps me > find real bugs, and that is more important to me than the 80-column > rule. Code which wraps due to excess line sizes is less readable that code

Re: [PATCH stable] Separate multicast configuration for mesh and wlan interfaces.

2008-05-14 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 19:12 -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > Can we come to a consensus for the sake of outside contributors? > Rather than telling the cozybit folks one thing, and having checkpatch.pl > and CodingStyle claim another (Dave, surely you wouldn't argue against > using checkpatch?), can

Re: [PATCH stable] Separate multicast configuration for mesh and wlan interfaces.

2008-05-14 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 15:06 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Tue, 13 May 2008 22:59:26 +0100 > David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 12:30 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 May 2008 13:20:19 -0400 > > > Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >

Re: [PATCH stable] Separate multicast configuration for mesh and wlan interfaces.

2008-05-14 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 16:15 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Tue, 13 May 2008 19:12:27 -0400 Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And FWIW, I like the 80 char limit _except_ when it comes to strings. > > I don't normally bother about the strings, unless it is obvious that > the surroun