> As someone on the activity side of the fence, I like warnings,
Take a look at the kind of warnings I am talking about. Some of
them say that an (unidentified) activity's directory lacks a
MANIFEST file; others that a particular Activity bundle's MANIFEST
file has an "invalid" entry (the ent
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 02:13:28PM +1000, James Cameron wrote:
>We don't have a duplicate of Koji we can use? How wrong is that!
We talked about it but Dennis argued passionately that
a) creating our own koji instance would be additional infrastructure
that we can ill-afford to maintain a
We don't have a duplicate of Koji we can use? How wrong is that!
--
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Erik,
If you have problems with that manual, please get the original CD that
Hernan provided. You will find it on my desk.
Kim
On Aug 14, 2008, at 7:23 PM, Erik Garrison wrote:
> Currently it appears that there is image corruption in the XO Manual
> which was recently sent to us by Perú.
>
>
We are thrilled to announce a new test build, joyride-2301, valid until
Wednesday, August 20.
Please help test it according to the detailed instructions at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing
while we still have time to fix issues you might find!
Our specific interest this week has
q2e13 is out but since koji is down you will have to grab it manually
rather than wait for it to hit joyride.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e13
I've had 2 reports from my q20117 dev build that after upgrade the
touchpad quit working. I've not been able to duplicate this and 3 other
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:16:01PM -0400, Ton van Overbeek wrote:
>For my testing for trac #7788 I want to switch from Update.1 to
>joyride-2298 and vice versa
>(using alternate boot).
>After switching back from joyride-2298 to Update.1 most activities do
>not start because
>their home directory
On Aug 14 2008, at 21:35, Bastien was caught saying:
> Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >> Hi list, where can I find images of the latest joyride for
> >> installing it with a USB key? Something similar to these images:
> >
> > http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/s
Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
>> Hi list, where can I find images of the latest joyride for
>> installing it with a USB key? Something similar to these images:
>
> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/joyride/latest/devel_ext3/
Anything under this directory is n
For my testing for trac #7788 I want to switch from Update.1 to
joyride-2298 and vice versa
(using alternate boot).
After switching back from joyride-2298 to Update.1 most activities do
not start because
their home directory does not exist.
I need some pointers where to look in rainbow how to get
This is just a heads-up that Fedora's Koji system (and some other build
infrastructure) is temporarily down as a result of errors discovered or
introduced during routine maintenance. Please check
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-August/thread.html
for updates.
Michae
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A few easy questions
> - How does it read the master list of available activities?
> - Does it use the URL in the activity metadata as per
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_updater#Application_updater
Douglas did a bit
Thanks; I have added a few extra bits.
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From: "S Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Cc: "victor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: jackd on OLPC?
> victor wrote:
>> I am mostly in the dark
>> when it comes to these things, which is
I've talk into 6 hrs... :(
2008/8/14 Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Currently it appears that there is image corruption in the XO Manual
> which was recently sent to us by Perú.
>
> I don't notice this corruption on my laptop.
>
> Anything else?
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 06:00:35PM -0400,
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 09:31:11AM -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 13 2008, at 03:27, Ricardo Carrano was caught saying:
>>>
>>> But the important result is that collaboration does not seem to be
>>> working in inf
Currently it appears that there is image corruption in the XO Manual
which was recently sent to us by Perú.
I don't notice this corruption on my laptop.
Anything else?
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 06:00:35PM -0400, Erik Garrison wrote:
> I made an error in assembling the image and used the wrong acti
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
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> Shikhar wrote:
> | A lot of why the Journal seems unnavigable could be done away, for
> | example, if there was a top bar which listed all the tags (i.e. a tag
> | widget for all the tags currently known).
>
> See, fo
> For clarification, is this a tool meant to be used by content
> providers on non-XO machines, or an activity for use in Sugar?
>
> I ask because, ever since we first designed the Journal, we've been in
> need of an activity (which should be called "Bundle") which is
> specifically designed to m
I've migrated as many of the dates from the [[Events]] Page to the [[Xo
roadshow]] wiki page. The new goal of the [[XO Roadshow]] page is to show
off a large number of potential events that the OLPC community might like to
take part in. Feel free to add more events in this format, creating sub
pa
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Shikhar wrote:
| A lot of why the Journal seems unnavigable could be done away, for
| example, if there was a top bar which listed all the tags (i.e. a tag
| widget for all the tags currently known).
See, for example, http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6128
Eben Eliason wrote:
>
> As Ben mentioned, there are many places where tags/search are taking
> the place of more formal structures: Gmail, Delicious, Spotlight, and
> many others among them. The Journal has a pretty crappy interface
> into this at the moment, and naming/tagging isn't emphasized
I made an error in assembling the image and used the wrong activity
bundle. The correct base was located in the peru image @
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/peru/peru-703-6/. Important
things such as the Wikipedia activity were missing. C. Scott noted that
he had made a number of small ch
On 14 Aug 2008, at 22:48, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
> Trac #7733. I am annoyed as well.
As someone on the activity side of the fence, I like warnings, I have
a bunch to fix in my own activity and hope to get to that soon. But
without them and with all the random documentation floating around,
victor wrote:
> I am mostly in the dark
> when it comes to these things, which is not ideal.
I wrote http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sound#Software_overview based on this
thread and my limited understanding. (Leaving out the "could install A,
ought to use B" stuff that clutters the wiki.)
Edit away.
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The activity updater seems to take lots of time when accessing large
> Activities (e.g., the Firefox.xo file in the repository). It also
> produces LOTS of 'WARNING:' messages about the Activity bundles I
> *have* instal
OLPC,
I have built a customization key for use by Perú immediately following
provisional testing. It is available at:
http://dev.laptop.org/~erik/peru/customization-key.peru.zip
The key is comprised of the previously shipped Perú activity pack and an
updated content bundle sent to us by Perú and
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> We began considering joyride-2294 for this week's beta selection process
> this morning and, this evening, Joe discovered some interesting hangs on
> laptops running the sugar activity updater. We believe that th
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 03:03:45PM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
>> Erik Garrison wrote:
>> | Can you reasonably
>> | expect to navigate more than 20 or 30 different entries without indexing
>> | and search?
>>
>> Inde
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 02:06:14PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 01:34:58PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
>> >> For clarifi
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 03:03:45PM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
> Erik Garrison wrote:
> | Can you reasonably
> | expect to navigate more than 20 or 30 different entries without indexing
> | and search?
>
> Indexing and search are precisely what the Journal is supposed to provide.
> ~ In fact
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Erik Garrison wrote:
| Can you reasonably
| expect to navigate more than 20 or 30 different entries without indexing
| and search?
Indexing and search are precisely what the Journal is supposed to provide.
~ In fact, there's a nice, fully functioning
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 09:31:11AM -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 13 2008, at 03:27, Ricardo Carrano was caught saying:
>>>
>>> But the important result is that collaboration does not seem to be
>>> working in inf
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 02:06:14PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 01:34:58PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
> >> For clarification, is this a tool meant to be used by content
> >> providers on non-XO mac
Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:44:21 +0200, Sebastian Dziallas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
1. Project name : fedora-xo
Done. Your tree is here:
git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/fedora-xo
git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/fedora-xo
git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/fedora-xo
Pleas
Back to the subject in the subject line (next build delayed).
The joyride-2303 build failed because koji.fedoraproject.org timed out.
I tried the site directly in the browser and it is indeed very slow and
I also get time-outs.
Something going on at RedHat? DDOS attack??
There was an announcement
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:10:30AM -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote:
>The issues reported with the touchpad (#7788) are also a bit worrysome
>but until we have a way to reproduce that can be reproduced on any laptop,
>I'm not going to consider it a show stopper.
My concern is that we are see these repor
On Aug 13 2008, at 20:35, Michael Stone was caught saying:
> Folks,
>
> We began considering joyride-2294 for this week's beta selection process
> this morning and, this evening, Joe discovered some interesting hangs on
> laptops running the sugar activity updater. We believe that these hangs
> ma
> ... Joe discovered some interesting hangs on
> laptops running the sugar activity updater. We believe that these hangs
> may be correlated with wireless activity and with the onset of idlesuspend
FYI - just an observation - NOT a request for help
I can't use the activity-updater in the Control
On 14 Aug 2008, at 17:20, Jim Gettys wrote:
> Please request an MP system via the developer's program.
>
> In fact, this is true for anyone who got prototypes from us that
> doesn't
> yet have an MP system. Having good developers testing against old
> hardware doesn't help testing.
>
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 01:34:58PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
>> For clarification, is this a tool meant to be used by content
>> providers on non-XO machines, or an activity for use in Sugar?
>>
>
> Content providers.
>
>>
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 01:34:58PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
> For clarification, is this a tool meant to be used by content
> providers on non-XO machines, or an activity for use in Sugar?
>
Content providers.
> I ask because, ever since we first designed the Journal, we've been in
> need of a
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If you enjoy linear algebra, I recommend that you glance at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Per-Activity_Power_Usage
which presents an algorithm for determining the amount of power used by
each Activity.
This algorithm is for the moment merely a mathemati
For clarification, is this a tool meant to be used by content
providers on non-XO machines, or an activity for use in Sugar?
I ask because, ever since we first designed the Journal, we've been in
need of an activity (which should be called "Bundle") which is
specifically designed to manage a varie
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 07:21:00PM +0200, NoiseEHC wrote:
> Erik, you asked how long would it take to finish my decompression
> routines. I did not answer since I was not sure but now it is 100% that
> it will no go into 8.2.0 (currently I am working 12+ hours and could not
> switch on my XO
Robert,
It isn't clear (yet) if something gnomeish or xfce is best, given the
target audience (G1G1 users, rather than kids). We'll see. Hackers are
a different audience than most G1G1 users we've had; certainly xfce is
fine for most of us. Only experimentation will tell if a more full
fledged G
Sebastian,
> 4. Longer description : we're going to provide a Fedora-based
> : "traditional linux desktop" environment
> : for the XO. if we can, we'd like in allow
> : a parallel installation of this and
Hi Pablo,
> Yes! It works now with the right link! (I had used the link of
> EduBlog_Instructions).
Great!
Did you have a chance to look at the modified blog creation interface?
I moved the settings into that page so teachers can directly link their
own Blogger.com blogs rather than having an
Joel,
Please request an MP system via the developer's program.
In fact, this is true for anyone who got prototypes from us that doesn't
yet have an MP system. Having good developers testing against old
hardware doesn't help testing.
- Jim
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 11:55
Joel Stanley wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Richard A. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> People who enjoy testing firmware please do so.
>
> My touchpad was unusable. B3, 703. If I was lucky, I could get the
> cursor to move ~5cm every minute (most of the time it didn't move).
>
>
Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
>> http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q20117.rom
>> People who enjoy testing firmware please do so.
>
> Did not succeed in installing this.
>
> Used 'flash' at the esc_prompt to write it onto my XO.
> But expected XO to reboot by itself - instead the power light went
> off, and
yes, I suppose that can be done, but it does look a little messy,
and it would be nice to be able to write activities that transparently
can do this, rather than as special cases.
It does not need to be root. I can set permissions for user olpc and
it works (provided that limits.conf is edited cor
A typical solution is, when you are about to start the process, invoke a
different (very small, so it can be audited) process that can set what
you need as root, and then drop the privileges before execing the real
image that does the work.
But Michael may have something else in mind for Rainbow.
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 01:23:07PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
>>
>> I moved discussion back to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7480 ,
>> including citing Morgan's objections quoted above and proposing a
>> solution.
>>
>>
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 06:02:49PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:20 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 12:13 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Tue, A
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:13:14PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, no C-level function takes an absurd amount of time. It's python
>> code that makes too much work than is really needed.
>
> It's not python code pro
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:31:27PM +0100, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>could someone explain to me what is user 10002 and why it does not
>seem to take notice of /etc/security/limits.conf?
User 10002 is a temporary uid generated by Rainbow when it is asked to
launch your activity. The relev
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On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:13:14PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>Yeah, no C-level function takes an absurd amount of time. It's python
>code that makes too much work than is really needed.
It's not python code proper; it's calling any sort of code and
performing any sort of I/O UNNECESSARILY. Think
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 06:02:49PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:20 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 12:13 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:10 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > Testcase:
>>> > Fill the jour
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:21:11AM +0100, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>It'd be ideal if activities using csound could take
>advantage of this code, because it seems to help
>performance. We could set up group permissions
>for that in /etc/security/limits.conf
I'd be able to give you a better opinion a
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 01:23:07PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
>I moved discussion back to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7480 ,
>including citing Morgan's objections quoted above and proposing a
>solution.
>
>Does anyone want to implement an email->trac gateway, like debian's
>bug tracker has? T
Dear devel@,
Apologies for the tardy reminder. We'll be meeting, as usual, in
#olpc-meeting on irc.freenode.net at 2:00 PM ET, (1800 UTC) today, to
discuss releasework and tomorrow to discuss ticket status.
Michael
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On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 01:11:04PM +0200, riccardo wrote:
>> Do you have any idea for redrawing less often?
>what do you mean ?
Think of the way that terrain based games use level-of-detail
computations (LoD) to figure out which portions of the screen need to be
updated. Think of the use of accel
Folks,
We began considering joyride-2294 for this week's beta selection process
this morning and, this evening, Joe discovered some interesting hangs on
laptops running the sugar activity updater. We believe that these hangs
may be correlated with wireless activity and with the onset of
idlesuspen
This is just a small note to announce that, per our decision in today's
software status meeting, I have inhibited OHM's idlesuspend behavior in
joyride in preparation for the 8.2.0 release. You can remove this
inhibition by enabling the 'automatic power management' option in the
Sugar Control Panel
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 09:31:11AM -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote:
>On Aug 13 2008, at 03:27, Ricardo Carrano was caught saying:
>> But the important result is that collaboration does not seem to be
>> working in infra mode. Irrespective of the filter status, no icon is
>> being presented in the mesh v
Zarro Boogs per Child wrote:
> #7788: Touchpad behavior deteriorates under joyride-2212, joyride-2230
> --+-
>Reporter: tvoverbeek | Owner: dilinger
>Type: defect | Status: new
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 2008/8/14 Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > There isn't an api for activity authors; however /home/olpc/Library (like
> > /home/olpc/Activities) and subdirs are world-readable, so there probably
> > should be.
>
>
Yes
> http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q20117.rom
> People who enjoy testing firmware please do so.
Did not succeed in installing this.
Used 'flash' at the esc_prompt to write it onto my XO.
But expected XO to reboot by itself - instead the power light went
off, and I had to manually press the power bu
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:02 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:20 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 12:13 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> >> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:10 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
< ... >
> >> > I find interestin
Hi Morgan,
You are right about those two being the top ones. I would just add that
Simple Wifi http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Networking_scenarios#Simple_WiFi
should also be considered.
Thanks,
Greg S
Morgan Collett wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 18:31, Deepak Saxena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2301
Changes in build 2301 from build: 2298
Size delta: 0.00M
-olpc-update 2.15-1
+olpc-update 2.16-1
-sugar 0.82.0-1.fc9
+sugar 0.82.0-1.1.fc9
--- Changes for olpc-update 2.16-1 from 2.15-1 ---
+ Brown-bag fix: inhibit suspend even if
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2301
Changes in build 2301 from build: 2298
Size delta: 0.00M
-olpc-update 2.15-1
+olpc-update 2.16-1
--- Changes for olpc-update 2.16-1 from 2.15-1 ---
+ Brown-bag fix: inhibit suspend even if you've already done so once before.
---
I've put up q20117.rom @
http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q20117.rom
People who enjoy testing firmware please do so.
If nothing shows up while I sleep then I'll spin a q2e13 .rpm for joyride.
The highlights are:
* Much faster EC command processing.
* Fix for watchdog timeout when doing battery EE
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