Re: Q2E30, Candidate-25 and DebXO don't play nice

2009-01-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
Add "dcon-unfreeze visible" to olpc.fth before the final "boot" command. Bobby Powers wrote: > hello all, > > I just installed candidate-25 of 8.2.1, and while it works flawlessly > in my limited testing, DebXO doesn't like prettyboot. I've tried > creating an initscript to echo 0 to /sys/devices

Q2E30, Candidate-25 and DebXO don't play nice

2009-01-30 Thread Bobby Powers
hello all, I just installed candidate-25 of 8.2.1, and while it works flawlessly in my limited testing, DebXO doesn't like prettyboot. I've tried creating an initscript to echo 0 to /sys/devices/platform/dcon/freeze, locating it in /etc/init.d, and creating an appropriately named symlink in /etc/

Re: OLPC where to go development advice.

2009-01-30 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> You can configure a static ip address using ifconfig from the command > line. You'll need to be root. Unfortunately, the OLPC has Network Manager, which "knows better". [I *have* been able to use ifconfig to assign a _mesh_ address on a F10 Joyride (which otherwise has mesh support broken).]

Re: [Testing] Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-30 Thread Hal Murray
> Try _deleting_ that file (with nm not running, as it'll recreate it), > rebooting, connecting for the first time -- a dialog window will come > up asking for the wpa passkey, provide it, and _then_ see if future > reboots reconnect (after waiting, as dsd suggests). I deleted the file and pulle

Re: OLPC where to go development advice.

2009-01-30 Thread david
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: > Here is a good current Ubuntu (Intrepid 8.10) to try with installation > instructions, together with a page that collects the answers to a lot of > questions that others have come up with: > > http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=40 > > To

Re: OLPC where to go development advice.

2009-01-30 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
Here is a good current Ubuntu (Intrepid 8.10) to try with installation instructions, together with a page that collects the answers to a lot of questions that others have come up with: http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=40 To install it, you will have to buy an SD card (I just put an 8

Re: OLPC where to go development advice.

2009-01-30 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Paul Breed wrote: > I subscribed to the dev list for some development advice for the OLPC. This is probably the best list. There is also irc.freenode.net #olpc-devel > My reason for using the OLPC is not to help in the developing world, > it because I'm working o

Re: OLPC where to go development advice.

2009-01-30 Thread david
Paul, for your purposes you may be better off using one of the 'normal' linux distros on the XO laptop. then programming would be just the same as on any other linux box, and the buttons map to keystrokes. you can either use them as-is (default mappings), or alter the mappings to change them t

Re: [Testing] Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > OLPC Build staging-9 (devel_jffs2) > Looks like I should have called it build 9. Sorry for the confusion. > > I've never seen that connect automatically. Most of the time, it worked when > I poke the icon. dsd is suggesting you wait, as it d

OLPC where to go development advice.

2009-01-30 Thread Paul Breed
I subscribed to the dev list for some development advice for the OLPC. My reason for using the OLPC is not to help in the developing world, it because I'm working on a long term project in the Mojave Desert and unit is robust and the display can be read in the noon day mojave sun. The project is

Re: Testing summary - 31 January 2009

2009-01-30 Thread Walter Bender
Great stuff. Thanks. In regard to the Turtle Art problem, the short-term work-around is a block found on the "flow" palette. It has a lock icon on the block. It will lock all the blocks above it so that you can move them off screen without worrying about losing them. In the near term, I will try t

Re: [Testing] Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-30 Thread Hal Murray
> I still don't understand which version you are comparing to. Can't you > just go to the control panel and check? That only gets me the currently installed version. It takes a while to switch back to older versions. Let me try again. I'm using WPA, version 2 on a Linksys WRT54GL running the

Testing summary - 31 January 2009

2009-01-30 Thread Tabitha Roder
Hello Who was here: Mel Chua, Becky, Alastair, Ed, Tabitha, Grant, Carl, Bob What did we do: Sensors - big fail on the magnets and wires sensors... could only generate a couple of millivolts but major success on the resistance test!!! Using usb power proved to be too sensitive but using just the

Re: Uruguay: Using the XO with Developmentally Challenged Kids

2009-01-30 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 05:45:32PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: > that said, it is an interesting exercise to try drawing letters with > the Turtle. Yes, a fantastic way to learn the geometry of letters in another way than with pen and ink. -- James Cameronmailto:qu...@us.netrek.org http:

Re: Uruguay: Using the XO with Developmentally Challenged Kids

2009-01-30 Thread Walter Bender
that said, it is an interesting exercise to try drawing letters with the Turtle. -walter On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > Turtle Art portfolio, which will become the new Turtle Art, has a label block. > > -walter > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:38 PM, James Cameron wrote: >

Re: Uruguay: Using the XO with Developmentally Challenged Kids

2009-01-30 Thread Walter Bender
Turtle Art portfolio, which will become the new Turtle Art, has a label block. -walter On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:38 PM, James Cameron wrote: > Ow! TurtleArt needs a way to make letters. The method the student used > was amazing, but did he really have to do it that way? ;-) At least he > won

Re: Uruguay: Using the XO with Developmentally Challenged Kids

2009-01-30 Thread James Cameron
Ow! TurtleArt needs a way to make letters. The method the student used was amazing, but did he really have to do it that way? ;-) At least he won. -- James Cameronmailto:qu...@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Dev

Uruguay: Using the XO with Developmentally Challenged Kids

2009-01-30 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi... Here is more good stuff from Uruguay. These anecdotes were collected from teachers at a school for developmentally challenged children in Uruguay at a fair they had for a number of schools participating in Project Ceibal (OLPC in Uruguay). They were originally posted on a blog in Spani

Re: [support-gang] Uruguay: Using the XO with Developmentally Challenged Kids

2009-01-30 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Hi... > > Here is more good stuff from Uruguay. These anecdotes were collected from > teachers at a school for developmentally challenged children in Uruguay at a > fair they had for a number of schools participating in Project Ceibal (OLPC

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-01-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > Mitch Bradley writes: > >> [...] It's also worth pointing out that the new low-power x86 >> processors, Atom being the poster child, are still stuck with >> power-hungry support chips - memory and display controllers. That >> might chan

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-01-30 Thread rihowa...@gmail.com
Those software gauges tell you what ever 'version of the truth' the author wants to tell you and make you feel happy about your device. To perform power measurements reliably you need to instrument with a good quality physical voltmeter and ammeter. On Jan 30, 2009, at 8:31 AM, p...@laptop.

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-01-30 Thread pgf
samuel wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > > Mitch Bradley writes: > > > >> [...] It's also worth pointing out that the new low-power x86 > >> processors, Atom being the poster child, are still stuck with > >> power-hungry support chips - memory and display

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-01-30 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > Mitch Bradley writes: > >> [...] It's also worth pointing out that the new low-power x86 >> processors, Atom being the poster child, are still stuck with >> power-hungry support chips - memory and display controllers. That >> might chan

Re: [Testing] Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-30 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/1/30 Hal Murray : >> What is 1352? joyride-1352? Ticket 1352? > > Sorry, I didn't keep good notes. The real filename was very long so I > renamed it to something reasonable, or at least it seemed reasonable at the > time. It's joyride or whatever rather than a ticket. > > I think it came fro

Re: [Testing] Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-30 Thread Hal Murray
>I'm having trouble comprehending your mail Sorry if I wasn't clear. (If it was simple we wouldn't be having this discussion.) [I'm running with a B3 board in a B2 chassis, so there is a slight chance that this is confusing things. I doubt it, but standard disclaimer...] With "old" software,

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-01-30 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Mitch Bradley writes: > [...] It's also worth pointing out that the new low-power x86 > processors, Atom being the poster child, are still stuck with > power-hungry support chips - memory and display controllers. That > might change "soon", but for now it's still the case. [...] According to

Re: [Testing] Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-30 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi Hal, I'm having trouble comprehending your mail 2009/1/30 Hal Murray : > [Context is WAP connection not getting set via NetworkManager] > > I expected this to get fixed in build 24. I grabbed build 25 since that > announcement came by before I started pulling things over. > > I expected it to