--- On Mon, 3/22/10, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
From: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org
Subject: Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 114
To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com
Cc: Fedora OLPC fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com, Chris Ball
c...@laptop.org, Devel devel@lists.laptop.org
yioryos wrote:
Not how you get to console (...) How do you switch to
sugar from
console? (I'm stack in Gnome). What is the command?
/home/olpc/Desktop/olpc-switch-to-sugar.desktop runs
/usr/bin/olpc-switch-to-sugar which is a Python script that
creates a
file
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 23:13 -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote:
OK. The Sugar desktop was unaffected by all these. So if you manage to switch
you are safe.
However, is still a breaker for me, given that is generated by a gnome panel
option.
Children discovered some very creative ways to
Hi guys.
I know most people here prefer free as in Libre as opposed to free as
in beer, but what do you think of coordinating with Adobe to get Flash
10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO?
Adobe already supports a lot of open-source initiatives and have
already open-sourced the Flex SDK which you can use to
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 07:28:05 pm Bernie Innocenti wrote:
All we need is a fast way to recover from disasters. A panic button
which would reset all settings. It could be implemented in
olpc-configure with 3 lines of code. In the absence of a recovery
option, technicians resort to flashing
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 20:31 +0530, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 07:28:05 pm Bernie Innocenti wrote:
All we need is a fast way to recover from disasters. A panic button
which would reset all settings. It could be implemented in
olpc-configure with 3 lines of code. In the
recent releases of XO-1.5 (and also of F11-on-XO1, if we can ever
get suspend/resume working properly again) have a new default
behavior with regard to idle suspend. i'm soliciting opinions on
how to fine-tune this new behavior.
before:
in the past on XO-1, the screen would dim, and after a
Hi,
further, if you choose 'a': are you comfortable having two
I think this is if you choose 'b'.
laptop states: - dark screen wakeable from keyboard - dark screen
_not_ wakeable from keyboard that are visually indistinguishable?
is it worth adding yet another LED blink
We could also consider just having the touchpad be available for
wake-from-idle-sleep, and not the keyboard, since that way you wouldn't have
any side effects from the wakeup key. But I think having the side effects
isn't a big deal, so I'd go with your proposed (b).
I've gotten into the
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 08:07:41AM -0400, Paul Fox wrote:
yioryos wrote:
OK. The Sugar desktop was unaffected by all these. So if you
manage to switch you are safe. However, is still a breaker
for me, given that is generated by a gnome panel option.
hi yioryos -- perhaps you
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote:
I know most people here prefer free as in Libre as opposed to free as
in beer, but what do you think of coordinating with Adobe to get Flash
10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO?
Flash 10 AFAIK is available as an rpm, so a local
b.
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What do you guys think?
That you've applied for a job at Adobe, or will do it soon ;-)
No, I'm a flash game developer and there are *A LOT* of flash game
developers out there, and it's now the easiest platform to develop
games for.
I'm 100% sure that a number of Flash game developers
Hi,
What do you guys think?
For what it's worth, I wrote up my personal opinion about this on the
sugar-devel@ list last year:
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-January/003516.html
(This isn't an official OLPC policy; I didn't talk with anyone at OLPC
before writing it.)
-
On 24.03.2010, at 00:36, Chris Ball wrote:
Hi,
What do you guys think?
For what it's worth, I wrote up my personal opinion about this on the
sugar-devel@ list last year:
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-January/003516.html
(This isn't an official OLPC policy; I didn't
I don't get it.
1) Flash is no more evil as Java was years ago when it was closed
source and it was being taught at universities.
There is now an open-source SDK (Flex SDK (there's 2 versions, the
closed source and the open source one)) with which you can produce
AVM2 SWFs, and you can give away
crap. hit the send key before proof-reading.
Edits:
- There are thousands of Java developers in the world today, and for all
intents and purposes, AS3 has more or less the same syntax as Java so
you now have an additonal large pool of developers who can create
content.
Also, an aside, JRE is a
On 24.03.2010, at 01:42, Carlos Nazareno wrote:
I don't get it.
[...]
Why is allowing additional tools a new pool of content creators bad for
OLPC?
We're not preventing anything. You're free to package the Adobe player and
anything else needed to run your game into a Sugar activity. In
The real problem with Flash isn't even the non-free player. It's the non-free
authoring
tool chain every content creator is locked into, plus that even with the tools
the
resulting flash file is not fully editable. The result is an impenetrable
magic gimmick,
it's not supposed to be examined,
Hi guys. I apologize for forgetting to trim the quoted text from my replies.
Google's quick reply function is evil and quotes the entire previous
messages (which is very bad in my case since I set devel to digest
mode).
Sorry. I won't do it again. :-/
Hi,
(Don't have time to reply to everything you said, sorry.)
I think this is a case of open source fundamentalism trumping
educational goals.
No. My IAEP post listed only educational goals; there was nothing
about open source being a virtue for its own sake. You can disagree
with how
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote:
There is now an open-source SDK (Flex SDK (there's 2 versions, the
You don't say open source in the OSI sense right?
Martin's previous arguments about the quality of educational content
is not a problem with a
Maybe the reason we're miscommunicating is that you don't understand
that we aren't willing to expect that our users have access to another
computer running Windows (because they don't), or for them to use a
text editor to edit content that was created in a GUI (since that's
*much* harder,
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:10:06AM +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote:
What's wrong with other people who have content creation tools
providing free content for the people who'll only have access to XOs?
I don't see anyone disallowing that, and I'm sure our users would love
that, so please ... make
isaac wrote:
On 03/23/10 15:16, Paul Fox wrote:
are you comfortable having two
laptop states:
- dark screen wakeable from keyboard
- dark screen _not_ wakeable from keyboard
that are visually indistinguishable?
by the way, if you have entered dark
Paul Fox wrote:
now:
in the new scheme, the idle sequence has changed: after a
fairly brief period of inactivity, the system will suspend,
leaving the screen on. (the user may not even know this has
happened.) assuming there is still no keyboard activity, a
little
On 03/23/10 15:16, Paul Fox wrote:
are you comfortable having two
laptop states:
- dark screen wakeable from keyboard
- dark screen _not_ wakeable from keyboard
that are visually indistinguishable?
by the way, if you have entered dark screen wakeable from keyboard
Hi,
Why will the screen blank? Why not just deactivate the
backlight? Is the DCON's power draw sufficiently high that
blanking the screen represents real savings?
Yes, it's 100mw, AFAIK.
- Chris.
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Okay, here's the thing:
AFAIK, the Adobe peeps don't have access to XO machines, that's why
before when I was reporting to Mike Melanson
(http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/ Linux Flash guy at Adobe) the
camera bug with Flash on the XO-1, he couldn't help much.
I'm relatively sure the Adobe
In reaction to all the posts, I installed AIR on my XO-1.5.
- The AIR install took multiple steps, and used mainstream procedures
rather than OLPC procedures
- Install of an AIR application -- ditto. [The AIR application would
not install under user olpc - only under user root.]
-
This is an odd argument considering it is quite difficult for a user
to create a simple reflash USB stick while using Sugar. Instead we
recommend using another computer that uses a regular Desktop.(1)
(1)http://wiki.laptop.org/go/No-fail_update
On Mar 23, 2010, at 9:46 PM,
Carlos,
+1
Thank you for bringing this up.
FYI: One of our largest deployments and two other smaller deployments
have received approval to ship Adobe Flash in their builds.
IMHO, OLPC would be able to provide deployments with the option of
including Adobe Flash, while continuing to
Hi,
Maybe the reason we're miscommunicating is that you don't
understand that we aren't willing to expect that our users have
access to another computer running Windows (because they don't)
[..]
This is an odd argument considering it is quite difficult for a
user to
what do you think? 'a' or 'b'?
As long as the possibility exists to manually edit a configuration file,
I myself will change the sleep behavior to be like 'before'.
I do not care whether it takes a keystroke, or pushing the CPU button,
to wake from 'sleeping' -- I'll learn through experience.
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