Re: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 11.3.1

2011-11-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 11/04/2011 09:45 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Martin, In 11.3.0 a few activities didn't include translations because of problems with packaging of the activities. Probably will be a good idea update these activities.

Re: XO-1.75 relative performance

2011-11-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.com wrote: nouveau has been very usable for quite some time. I was using it without issues back in F-12/13 timeframe without too many issues. What have you been using it for? Gnome-shell didn't exist back then. They have been

12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Peter Robinson
The Throw away your televisions release. This is the first build on our way to what will ultimately become the 12.1.0 release. Its based on rawhide and the testing I did on my XO-1.5 provides all basic working functionality including Sugar, GNOME, networking, camera etc. gnome-shell with

Re: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 11.3.1

2011-11-07 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2011/11/7 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: On 11/04/2011 09:45 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Martin, In 11.3.0 a few activities didn't include translations because of problems with packaging of the activities. Probably will be a good idea update these activities. I can prepare a list of

Re: XO-1.75 relative performance

2011-11-07 Thread Tony Anderson
It sounds like the XO-1.75 Sugar will not be operable on XO-1 (and possibly XO-1.5). I assume there is a clear commitment to continue support of Sugar for XO-1 and XO-1.5. Tony On 11/07/2011 03:26 AM, devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Send Devel mailing list submissions to

Re: XO-1.75 relative performance

2011-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net wrote: It sounds like the XO-1.75 Sugar will not be operable on XO-1 (and possibly XO-1.5). I assume there is a clear commitment to continue support of Sugar for XO-1 and XO-1.5. No issues with Sugar. The discussion here is

Re: XO-1.75 relative performance

2011-11-07 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, I was referring, of course, to the need for a 1GB memory to support the 3D drivers which appear to be required by the future Fedora releases. That sound scary! Tony On 11/07/2011 09:10 AM, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Tony Andersontony_ander...@usa.net wrote:

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: Excellent! Thanks for this! I am pretty worried with the removal of gnome fallback -- I can't see sw rendering being usable on XO-1, and probably

Interesting aspect of signed build

2011-11-07 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Disclaimer: I am not asking for help. I'm just telling what I found. Was running os883 on an XO-1 (which had a developer key). I applied some modifications (part of which was a yum upgrade of the kernel and a change to /boot/olpc.fth (to set the CPU speed)). When I rebooted, I found that

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: Excellent! Thanks for this! I am pretty worried with the removal of gnome

Re: XO-1.75 relative performance

2011-11-07 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net wrote: Hi, I was referring, of course, to the need for a 1GB memory to support the 3D drivers which appear to be required by the future Fedora releases. That sound scary! This configuration would largely be recommended for

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, its coming to F17 as a feature, as I said previously, that doesn't mean that Fallback mode is going away in F17. There's nothing in that discussion thread about keeping a knob to enable fallback mode. The title of

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: There's nothing in that discussion thread about keeping a knob to enable fallback mode. The title of the thread says it all. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome_shell_software_rendering states clearly that the

Re: XO-1.75 relative performance

2011-11-07 Thread Kevin Gordon
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net wrote: Hi, I was referring, of course, to the need for a 1GB memory to support the 3D drivers which appear to be required by the future Fedora

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome_shell_software_rendering states clearly that the fallback knob will still exist You are right. Thanks. I had just reacted to Ajax's email, and the thread that follows. Unfortunate

Re: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 11.3.1

2011-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
2011/11/7 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org: The case is that there are some activities, like Image Viewer and Terminal, which translations did not reach the builds because of a package building problem. Yep - translations are welcome. Bring them in, quick! :-) m --  

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Kevin Gordon
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, its coming to F17 as a feature, as I said previously, that

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, its coming to F17 as a feature, as I said previously, that

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2011/11/7 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: Thanks, it was about what I expected. We're about 3-4 months out from the spit and polish side of things, more aimed at developers to get a platform with systemd and all the libraries/tools needed for the port to gtk3 etc. Testing if activities

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Peter Robinson
2011/11/7 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org: 2011/11/7 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: Thanks, it was about what I expected. We're about 3-4 months out from the spit and polish side of things, more aimed at developers to get a platform with systemd and all the libraries/tools needed for

Re: XO 1.75 update

2011-11-07 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Peter, On 2 Nov 2011, at 11:40, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote: For the past couple of days, the directory: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/14/Everything/arm/os/repodata/ seems to be empty.

Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Manuel Quiñones
El día 7 de noviembre de 2011 16:38, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com escribió: 2011/11/7 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org: 2011/11/7 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: Thanks, it was about what I expected. We're about 3-4 months out from the spit and polish side of things, more aimed at

Re: XO 1.75 update

2011-11-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Peter, On 2 Nov 2011, at 11:40, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote: For the past couple of days, the directory:

Re: 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread S Page
[I removed cc'd olpc and techteam lists, I'm not a member of them.] Is there documentation for the new files .onu, .uim, etc.? Is there a high-level build system script to look at instead of trying to infer from the resulting files what they do? I couldn't find anything, so I added a section

Re: 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Disclaimer: I'm not asking for help; I'm sharing my observations. os1 (on XO-1.5) does not recognize the second (external) SD card -- I'll need to set up an USB stick with the resources that I normally access via my permanent (second) SD card. mikus

Re: 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 04:47:26PM -0600, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: os1 (on XO-1.5) does not recognize the second (external) SD card -- I'll need to set up an USB stick with the resources that I normally access via my permanent (second) SD card. I'm not suggesting a solution, but I observe that

Re: Announcing Q2F05 for XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Kevin Gordon
JC: I'm a tad confoozed. The link below shows output of a 1.5 running a Q2 level firmware??? KG On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:29 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2f05 Contains new EC firmware released by Richard Smith. Contains development

Re: Announcing Q2F05 for XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 06:35:19PM -0500, Kevin Gordon wrote: I'm a tad confoozed. The link below shows output of a 1.5 running a Q2 level firmware??? Thanks, I've removed it. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list

Re: 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Kevin Gordon
Mikus: On a wipe/install fs-update of OS1 on an XO 1.5, I can see the SD card, including its linux-swap, and its fat32 partition, in the sugar frame. I can see those and its ext3 partition in gparted on the gnome side. It is also visible in the journal. Cheers, KG On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:03

can't boot XO-1 from USB, doc needed

2011-11-07 Thread S Page
I wanted to try 11.3.0 but my XO-1 prints scary JFFS2 warnings before Boot has failed, sleeping forever.. (After four years, no more olpc-update for me.) I'd like to boot off USB and look at my XO-1's NAND filesystem. But the wiki instructions for booting off USB[1] were out of date. I've

Re: can't boot XO-1 from USB, doc needed

2011-11-07 Thread DJ Delorie
I'm running a Fedora 15 test image on an external USB sata drive. I formatted the drive as ext3 and copied the filesystem to it, and manually boot from ofc: boot u:\boot\olpc.fth (or something like that) You might have to tweak the olpc.fth file on your usb disk to boot properly off it, and

Re: can't boot XO-1 from USB, doc needed

2011-11-07 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 04:12:50PM -0800, S Page wrote: I wanted to try 11.3.0 but my XO-1 prints scary JFFS2 warnings before Boot has failed, sleeping forever.. (After four years, no more olpc-update for me.) That sounds fixable. Can you describe how you got to this point? I'd like to

Re: can't boot XO-1 from USB, doc needed

2011-11-07 Thread James Cameron
Oh, and I would not be terribly interested in a permanent boot and use OLPC OS from USB because of the data corruption risk of USB drives being pulled out during operation. SD, yes. USB, no, too fragile. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/

Re: Announcing Q2F05 for XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 06:35:19PM -0500, Kevin Gordon wrote: I'm a tad confoozed. The link below shows output of a 1.5 running a Q2 level firmware??? I've made the banner output model agnostic in the template. Please review and describe your state of confusion again, thanks.

Re: Announcing Q2F05 for XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Kevin Gordon
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:33 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 06:35:19PM -0500, Kevin Gordon wrote: I'm a tad confoozed. The link below shows output of a 1.5 running a Q2 level firmware??? I've made the banner output model agnostic in the template. Please

Re: can't boot XO-1 from USB, doc needed

2011-11-07 Thread James Cameron
I would reinstall at this point, relying on my backups. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
My mistake - apologies. Turned out it was the SD card that had given up the ghost (and was non-responsive). When I inserted a different external SD card, it was correctly recognized by os1. Sorry, mikus ___ Devel mailing list

Re: 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-11-07 Thread Paul Fox
mikus wrote: My mistake - apologies. Turned out it was the SD card that had given up the ghost (and was non-responsive). When I inserted a different external SD card, it was correctly recognized by os1. it's a feature! :-) =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org

RE: [Testing] can't boot XO-1 from USB, doc needed

2011-11-07 Thread Caryl Bigenho
My Motto...When in doubt... Reflash!;-DCaryl Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:52:20 +1100 From: qu...@laptop.org To: skierp...@gmail.com CC: test...@lists.laptop.org; devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: [Testing] can't boot XO-1 from USB, doc needed I would reinstall at this point, relying on my