Re: wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)

2009-10-30 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:45 PM, John Gilmore wrote: >> I talked with one of the 802.11 experts I know. He's quite sure >> that there should be no problem on Atheros hardware at least. >> He has no problem transmitting arbitrary packets at arbitrary >> times and no problem receiving packets eithe

Re: wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)

2009-10-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/10/26 Albert Cahalan : >>> The issue is that A and B are both hosting their own networks, they >>> are both beacon masters, spewing beacons based off their own clocks. >> >> How is this any

Re: wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)

2009-10-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/10/23 Albert Cahalan : >> Thus, properly done, the XO labled "C" might have either of: >> >> a. wlan0 to reach A, and wlan1 to reach B (same hardware) >> b. wlan0, from which wlan0_0 and wlan0_1

wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)

2009-10-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
Daniel Drake writes: > Another laptop "C" comes along > A <> C <--> B > This laptop can see both of these independent laptops (each having > its independent network). It can join one or the other. It cannot > join both. Hence this XO can only communicate with A or B, but not > both

Re: Disk layout for XO-1.5

2009-08-05 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Albert Cahalan wrote: >> First partition: FAT16 with 4 KB clusters >> Second partition: LVM with ext4 > > Gentlemen, before LVM can be considered, we need > > - fs resize that

Re: Disk layout for XO-1.5

2009-08-04 Thread Albert Cahalan
First partition: FAT16 with 4 KB clusters Second partition: LVM with ext4 In the LVM, filesystems should be 50% to 80% full. This leaves some extra space unused. As filesystems fill up, the filesystems can be expanded to use the extra space. Don't shrink filesystems unless they drop down to 15% t

Re: is anyone actually doing Windows on XO work here?

2009-07-22 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: >> This is largely because you aren't doing normal Linux development. > > "Normal". Now there's a term that's relative. Is GNOME normal? Or is it KDE? > Or XFCE, LXDE? Enlightenment, maybe? For this purpose: all of the above plus FVWM and proba

Re: is anyone actually doing Windows on XO work here?

2009-07-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
Ed McNierney writes: > We've tried many times to make the very simple story about Windows > support on the XO clear. The conspiracy theorists don't really care. > If you don't live in a fact-based universe, facts are irrelevant. > Mitch is quite right, but we've said just about all of that before

Re: user-space XO hardware detection

2009-07-10 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Albert Cahalan wrote: >> I suppose the real needs are: >> >> 1. detect that the screen has XO-like blur >> 2. detect that the keyboard has XO-style keys >> 2a. detect th

user-space XO hardware detection

2009-07-10 Thread Albert Cahalan
It's getting more and more important to be able to detect XO hardware from userspace. One can no longer assume that Sugar implies XO because Sugar runs elsewhere and because non-Sugar is getting common on the XO. Considering the 1.5 hardware, assuming that Geode implies XO is not going to be reason

Re: Browse.xo performance & resolution - Hulahop 200dpi vs Browse 134dpi

2009-05-15 Thread Albert Cahalan
Martin Langhoff writes: > The short version of it is that canvas (and image rendering in > general) is hurting lots due to the dpi being hardcoded to 134 > which forces Gecko into image scaling games. Just setting > layout.css.dpi to 96 makes Browse much snappier in general, > and incredibly faste

Re: [Server-devel] Questions

2009-05-09 Thread Albert Cahalan
Martin Langhoff writes: > 2009/5/9 david : >> They have better luck (maybe my fingers are sweaty more than most) >> and I have noticed students often wrapping cloth around their >> finger to use the touch pad. It remains a real problem, but people >> do get by. > > The devel@ list archive has simi

Re: I2C bus assignments

2009-05-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
I have a bad feeling about swiping the CRT I2C. It kind of leaves a needless landmine for video driver authors who would prefer to unify their code (XO and non-XO hardware) as much as possible. Suppose a video driver attempts E-DDC. Is it going to confuse some non-compliant I2C device or actually h

Re: 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
Hal Murray writes: > I've always thought of "slide into view" as annoying. I have to > wait around for the thing I want to look at to finish dancing. Me too, which is why I specified "fast" and "rapid". Animations commonly suffer from various problems: a. You really do have to wait, because the

Re: CL1B power distribution

2009-04-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
John Watlington writes: > - The SD slot and USB ports may be powered in suspend > This is "just in case" some SD cards or USB devices don't handle > being suspended > aggressively. We will support laptop wakeup on interrupt from any > of these ports (SD or USB). Under software c

3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
Christoph Derndorfer writes: > I honestly can't think of a use-case for including any sort > of 3D acceleration into the basic Sugar and activities. There's > about a million significantly more important things that people > should be working on before even thinking about 3D (IMHO). One can use a

Re: Check this out

2009-04-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
Aaron Konstam writes: > Unfortunately, currently it seems to be only able to > translate whole pages not words or paragraphs. The more you have, the better you can translate: I offered several different types of foods. They liked a banana more than onions, roast beef, garlic, or beets. In genera

Re: announce: alternate power management

2009-03-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
pgf writes: > so: i've packaged a new version of powerd. the big change > is that it now allows for the two modes of operation i mentioned > last week on the list: > dim > sleep, screen on > sleep, screen off > shutdown > or: >

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-04 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Albert Cahalan wrote: >> Bobby Powers writes: >>> The idea is to give kids as much transparency into the software >>> stack as possible, AND make it easy to hack on and easy to cr

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-04 Thread Albert Cahalan
Bobby Powers writes: > 2009/2/2 Tiago Marques : >> Python is killing the XO, what's being done in that regard? >> The $100 laptop will always be hardware limited, how can >> python be a benefit and not a *huge* burden? I for one can't >> get my head around that. > > The idea is to give kids as muc

for those recently laid off...

2009-01-07 Thread Albert Cahalan
In case any low-level hackers are included in the layoffs, note that my employer can hire a good number of them. (if US citizen) In case you know somebody appropriate who no longer reads devel, please let him know. People might unsubscribe when laid off, or might have been subscribed via a now-dead

Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla?

2009-01-04 Thread Albert Cahalan
Peter Robinson writes: > I've found it very cpu intensive on Fedora 9 and 10 with a penryn > dual core processor. It basically pins one of the cores to 100% CPU That could be good. 70% would be more worrisome, because we'd have to assume the CPU was really doing the rendering. At 100%, it becomes

Re: No surprise on memory

2008-12-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
[multiple people] > I recently learned a few very important things about Linux memory > management (I'm speaking about how its supposed to work, irrespective > of any bugs). Operating systems experts already know all of this, > but I did not. This is a good reminder for those of us who tend to a

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-11-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Albert Cahalan wrote: >> Memory reservations are a different beast entirely. Running >> out of memory becomes approximately impossible because >> the user is blocked from starting to

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-10-31 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Albert Cahalan wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Could the oom-killer have a hook to enable this functionality to be >>>

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-10-30 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you continue down this path (auto-saving application state to NAND > when we run out of memory)? How tenable is the idea of saving > application state to NAND on our system? > > Could the oom-killer have a hook to en

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
S Page writes: > HTML in Browse integrates cleanly with the library/home page, > can use advanced CSS for attractive layout, takes you from a > link to a document without the download-Journal-Read steps, > avoids PDF's fundamental broken-ness rendering a paper page > on a screen, has JavaScript to

Re: The XO laptop gets a Windows makeover

2008-10-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > File sharing is not an active real time collaboration tool by any means. Right. Active real-time collaboration is nice, and I wish my own editor had it, but I think you're overvaluing it greatly. > In sugar multiple

Re: The XO laptop gets a Windows makeover

2008-10-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It was a very poor experiment and the article had a number of items > of misinformation. The author of the article did not take advantage > of the fact that she had 2 XOs . She did not boot both in Sugar to > observe the collaboration capabilities of Sugar and Activit

Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age

2008-10-09 Thread Albert Cahalan
Edward Cherlin writes: > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Carlos Nazareno > wrote: 3) Basically - The journal is really hard for people/ kids to use over a longer period of time. Kids and teachers can't find things that they did unless it was done within the last 30 minutes. >>> >>

Re: Filesystem path ordering overrated.

2008-10-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
C. Scott Ananian writes: > The response usually is that additional context is sufficient to > disambiguate tag sets, you don't actually need ordering. That is, > it's okay if a/b is indistinguishable from b/a -- in practice one > will really be c/a/b and the other will be b/a/d or whatever, and >

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that more current Linux kernels, such as that in 8.2, are much > better at being able to account for what process is using what memory. > It's probably worth a little experimentation after 8.2 ships to see if > the origi

Re: [IAEP] Coloring books on the XO?

2008-09-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
C. Scott Ananian writes: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: >> Coloring something certainly helps remember it. And changing the >> colors of shapes/objects in a drawing or scene or skin is one of >> the simple pleasures in life. A simple implementation of coloring >> would l

idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
For the zillionth time, my kids brought my XO to a halt. They started up two copies of Tux Paint and two copies of Colors! (BTW, boy do I hate names with built-in sentence-ending punctuation) The end result is that the activities die (unacceptable), usually via power button. There are a number of

Re: [sugar] Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags

2008-09-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:01 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The case of b/a being distinct from a/b is necessary. You may call >> it a necessary evil, but

Re: G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-19 Thread Albert Cahalan
Here is a list, most important first: Journal required Browse needed for tech support XoIRC needed for tech support Terminalneeded for tech support Record kids love taking pictures DOOMkids love shooting monsters SimCity kids like destroying cities Ruler u

Re: [sugar] Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags

2008-09-19 Thread Albert Cahalan
Eben Eliason writes: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Eduardo H. Silva > wrote: >> 2008/9/19 C. Scott Ananian : >>> Eben, Eduardo, and I have been chatting about this some over IRC. >>> What I find most interesting here is how *filesystem paths* (well, >>> URL paths in this particular case) ar

Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
Martin Langhoff writes: > In that sense, it is very simple - as a programmer, if I am going to > spend significant time working on a feature like this I want it to > > 1 - work for the deployments - this is the most important thing! > 2 - work for G1G1 users too - they are the donors and enthusias

Re: rainbow and pam

2008-08-15 Thread Albert Cahalan
Jim Gettys writes: > Victor needs some way to be able to set the real time features > of Linux; this is certainly desirable in various audio, voip > and similar applications. Quick fix: eliminate the restriction in the kernel While this causes obvious problems for shared multi-user machines, it

Re: The tedium of erasing journal entries

2008-08-03 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3 Aug 2008, at 23:03, Albert Cahalan wrote: > This is rather unfair. I take it you've just filled up all available space > and jffs2 is now thrashing (as would happen on almost any file system)? &q

Re: The tedium of erasing journal entries

2008-08-03 Thread Albert Cahalan
Aaron Konstam writes: > Someone in a recent message suggested that people should learn to > routinely erase Journal entries to prevent the NAND from filling up. > > Unless I have missed something that is a very tedious task to lay on > someone using the current GUI interface for erasing journal en

Re: Terminals

2008-08-02 Thread Albert Cahalan
Look, there is no reason to care about hashes. What is the fear here, that the jffs2 filesystem will fail? We have pathnames. Permissions are granted by the user. The only exception is when the OS is initially installed, or when the whole OS is upgraded. Permissions are tied to an inode. Since th

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-02 Thread Albert Cahalan
Morgan Collett writes: > We didn't get to discuss this activity developers' mailing list > at the Sugar meetings. However I've had no negative feedback. > If anyone is opposed to this list, please speak up quickly and > loudly. Otherwise I will get it created in the next week, > publicize it and i

Re: video bleeds through somewhat between sessions

2008-08-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
Jordan Crouse writes: > Video is muxed to the visible screen through the use of a color key - > given a rectangle of some size, the hardware compares all of the pixels > in that rectangle against a set color - if they match, then a pixel of > the video frame is shown, otherwise not. That should h

Re: Terminals

2008-07-31 Thread Albert Cahalan
Michael Stone writes: > One of our present security difficulties is that the Terminal activity > is not isolated. It is de-isolated so that it can serve the dual role of > root terminal and 'general exploration' terminal. Perhaps reviving the > Quake Terminal for the root-terminal role and isolati

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Daniel Drake writes: > I'll look into why SDL_mixer went away, and what it is used for... It's for audio. Reasons for use include: * Nicely compatible with other SDL stuff * Cross-platform (BeOS, MacOS X, Win95, Vista...) * Easy support for stereo positioning * Handles *.ogg files * Good enough

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Mikus Grinbergs writes: > There are people like me who like TuxPaint better than Oficina. > However, to run TuxPaint, users of current Joyride need to > re-install SDL_mixer and libmikmod. I hope you've filed a bug to request that those libraries be put back. I could use libpaper as well; the al

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Michael Stone writes: > On the other hand, it would be rather trivial for activities which > cared to check their dependencies in a adhoc fashion (by running > rpm themselves if they wish) and by reporting errors if necessary > dependencies are unsatisfied. This is far from trivial. Sure, I could

Re: Tuxpaint activity is bloated

2008-07-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
FYI, the Tux Paint port is mine. I have CVS commit rights to the main Tux Paint code base. Probably 5% to 10% of the code is mine. Mitch Bradley writes: > The filesystem layout for the tuxpaint activity has a lot of > boilerplate that contributes to it taking up a lot of space on NAND. > In some

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Smalltalk community is puzzled that anybody would > prefer to work on Smalltalk in something other than Smalltalk

Re: Parallel desktops

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: > There have been periodic suggestions, including some by potential OLPC > buyers, that they would be more interested if the project offered a GUI > that more closely resembled the environments to which they are accustomed. > ~ I strongly disagree with these people, fe

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From what I gathered from my experiments, I think it makes sense for > us to go with Metacity + maximus. That would require no code changes > in metacity and minor changes in sugar. If we want to support activity > ic

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 26.06.2008 um 10:53 schrieb Albert Cahalan: > >>>> This idea of applying patch collections is disturbing. It reminds >>>> me of the terrible mess that Minix was back in 1991, when

Re: SuperUser permission for the Driver??

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: > There is a planned design to allow the user to grant extra privileges > to different Activities, but those privileges will probably never > extend to loading arbitrary kernel modules. VMWare-1.xo It's the only way to get usable performance on a system that doesn't

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Before drifting to a new topic, let me make sure one thing; did you > get convinced that FSF's definition of software freedom doesn't > contradict with a binary image file with right tools to fully > explore/understand/

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Other than the circle icon, do you have any major issue? If it's just > that, adding _NET_WM_ICON support to the sugar shell should be really > easy. Great. BTW, the old-style bitmaps could be given the XO colors

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:13 PM, K. K. Subramaniam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 25 Jun 2008 12:08:44 am Albert Cahalan wrote: >> > *All the source code* for *every* piece of byte code in the >> > image is available, and not only that, we even *ship* it

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 24.06.2008 um 20:04 schrieb Albert Cahalan: > >> I'm glad that Debian didn't break the rules for etoys. >> You're claiming to be open source, yet you've LOST the >>

fixing etoys

2008-06-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
Here are some ideas that might help you fix some of the problems with start-up performance, shut-down performance, open source, and software engineering practices. You're trying to do a persistant system image on an OS that wasn't really designed for it. If you were on an exotic system with a pers

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
I'm glad that Debian didn't break the rules for etoys. You're claiming to be open source, yet you've LOST the source code decades ago. Hacking up binary images is shockingly horrible software non-engineering. You've no justification for taking shots at gcc, which is entirely capable of being boots

Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Thu, May 29, 2008

Re: [OLPC Security] Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Bobby Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:39 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Windows runs from an SD card, but there is not much space left on >> that SD card to store user files. User files are stored in NAND at >>

Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I do believe that, practically speaking, all of this is moot. >> Windows uses both SD card storage and the NAND

Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Morgan Collett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jameson "Chema" Quinn writes: >>> Actually, the goals are more limited. Say you have dual-boot; >

Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Jameson "Chema" Quinn writes: > Actually, the goals are more limited. Say you have dual-boot; > OS 1 has bitfrost, OS 2 does not. Things OS 2 should not do: > > 1. Read private files from OS 1. ... > 2. By writing to OS 1's file system, I do believe that, practically speaking, all of this is moot

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Alex Belits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eben Eliason wrote: >> For what it's worth, I would be careful to portray "the low-achievers" >> and "the brightest" as opposites. As I note below, I frequently find >> that some of the brightest are also some of the low-ac

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
>> Note that we *cannot* share much of the information about the >> possible alternatives we are examining for Gen-2 hardware >> until decisions are final; it is the basis of serious negotiations >> among competing parties, under non-disclosure agreements. > > Lest rumors of more OLPC secrets get s

Re: XO-2

2008-05-22 Thread Albert Cahalan
John Watlington writes: > The loss of a keyboard is mourned. But so much of the activities > the young kids that OLPC is targetting do are more manual and direct. Kids too young for a keyboard? That would be below school age. > The desire to maximize display area (but clam-shell, not tablet, for

Re: Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-19 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Sorry, people can'

Re: Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Stop here, and please _r

Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view

2008-05-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Reason: it's not at all related to laptop computers >> Fact: it's not universally valued by teacher

Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view

2008-05-17 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You don't need computers for constructionism. If pushing educational >> theories of questionable value is you

Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view

2008-05-17 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Sameer Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Albert Cahalan wrote: >> Watch the video. XP boots fast, > > What does a fast boot up have to do with the overall usability and > productivity of a system? You can always show a boot screen early

Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view

2008-05-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
Robert Myers writes: > The folks that are buying them, Ministries of Education, governments, > charities all have their own agendas. They do not necessarily line up > with the agendas of our real customers - children and educators, or our > own. If we have to give them some of what they want, so t

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Just look at the deal. Dual-boot costs $7 extra. Governments will >> not pay the extra $7 to allow dual-boot. >

Re: c preprocessor.

2008-05-15 Thread Albert Cahalan
This is good, not bad. Adding glibc-headers is the proper response. The XO is really really close to having normal and standard tools for software development. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Albert Cahalan
Seth Woodworth writes: > So as a fair practice I think it's clear that no special actions can > ethically be made to prevent Windows or any other OS from running on > the machine. So a Windows port for the XO isn't something that > could have been preventative. Wrong. It's called tit-for-tat, ot

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-08 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll be getting my hands on a one2onemate next week. I'll report back > what I learn, but I wouldn't condemn it sight unseen. At the very > least, it is Linux based, suggesting that ideas for improvement can be > realized

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-08 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:25 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bernie Innocenti writes: >>> http://www.one2onemate.com/ >> >> This is optimized for teacher thinkin

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-07 Thread Albert Cahalan
Bernie Innocenti writes: > Wow, there are way more than I thought, already. > And they missed this one: > > http://www.one2onemate.com/ This is optimized for teacher thinking. They win. :-( There is a cart, for moving the laptops to and from classrooms. It has shaped holes for the laptops. It s

Re: CIPA done (was: OLPC Project suggestions.)

2008-05-07 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is totally half-assed. As a parent, I would be pissed off when I > became aware of the quality of such an OLPC web filtering solution. > > How about if we place a DansGuardian transparent proxy on a public IP >

CIPA done (was: OLPC Project suggestions.)

2008-05-06 Thread Albert Cahalan
> Child-safe web filtering on XO > Regardless of its merits, CIPA requires it for XO deployments > in US schools: Here are the requirements: http://ifea.net/cipa.pdf The easy way out is child ownership. The requirements only apply to computers which are owned by schools and libraries. Probabl

Re: Marvell microkernel

2008-05-05 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Alex Belits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If Marvell can release "tangled source" for ARM code that depends on > proprietary microkernel, it would be an ordinary porting effort to make it > work without that microkernel. Let go of that dream. Marvell is just giving

Re: typing tutor activity

2008-04-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
Kate Scheppke writes: > I'm a computer science student, one of many applicants to the Google > Summer of Code / OLPC project who came up just a bit shy of > acceptance. Nonetheless, I plan to move ahead with working on my > proposed project, a typing tutor. My mentor on this project is Wade > Br

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I have posted before, I am not distressed by the inclusion of Windows > on the XO laptop, perhaps in a dual-boot configuration or whatever. What > would distress me is if Windows was not sold as an option. If lap

Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
Let's imagine this several ways, and see why it won't happen. First consider what a faithful Sugar\Windows system would be like. a. the familiar "Start" menu is gone b. regular Windows programs like Word can't run c. OS config GUI stuff is (must be) rewritten from scratch I doubt anybody wants th

what matters

2008-04-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
It's clear that we aren't all here for the same thing. Some wish to help all kids, or poor kids, or non-Western kids. Some wish to advance freedom of speech, freedom from EULA slavery, or freedom to learn heretical ideas. Some of us are, assuming good intentions, extremely innocent regarding Micro

Re: [sugar] Mini-Conference Proposal: Toolbars & Tabs (or lack thereof)

2008-03-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
Eben Eliason writes: > 1. Toolbar buttons use icons instead of text as an identifier. Beyond > the icon, we depend on the content of the toolbar to help define the > tab, with a textual name being superfluous. This makes localization > easier (well, free) and prevents text from being cut off in

Re: UI responsiveness

2008-03-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
Mikus Grinbergs writes: >> ... Performance, or for us, UI responsiveness, the most visible >> and painful issue being start up time of applications is paramount. > > I'm impressed by the start up time of the (giant) TuxPaint activity. > > From the time I click on its icon in the Frame, it takes a

Re: free usb8388.bin

2008-02-14 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW, what is killing my blinkenlight? I realize that it wouldn't do > > to hang the boot forever

free usb8388.bin

2008-02-14 Thread Albert Cahalan
We have free firmware now: git clone git://dev.laptop.org/users/albert/usb8388 I admit that it has some... bugs. The mesh doesn't work. Power management doesn't work. Heck, it won't send/receive packets and it knows nothing of this "USB" thing. However, we have a blinkenlight. Ship it! BTW, what

Re: How to create a new MIME type for a Sugar activity?

2008-02-11 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Feb 11, 2008 10:33 AM, Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Albert Cahalan wrote: >> Whatever you invent, Etoys will claim it in the next release. >> It does not matter if Etoys has any ability to handle the data. >> >> I'm half serious too, as is clear to an

Re: How to create a new MIME type for a Sugar activity?

2008-02-09 Thread Albert Cahalan
James Simmons writes: > I agree I have no business inventing my own MIME type. Yes you do, and you should ignore the "x-" disaster. Pick something sane, descriptive but not too generic, and be done with it. (If you use "x-", then you **still** face any collision problems and you're expected to r

Re: compiler / glibc optimization

2008-01-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 25, 2008 4:29 AM, Wade Brainerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> People with the hardware should develop exclusively on the hardware. > > This made me smile at the thought of the "OLPC Project grinds to > a sudden halt, no commits in weeks" headline. You think? If so, there is something wrong

Re: compiler / glibc optimization

2008-01-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
Rob Savoye writes: > Vasilis Liaskovitis wrote: > >> 1) I haven't found a default gcc in my xo system - if there is one, >> where is it installed ? > > "yum install gcc" works. You quickly run out of room for the > development packages you need, Well, you do. Partly this is because your project mu

Re: free firmware for 88W8388

2008-01-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 23, 2008 6:22 PM, Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 21:03 +0100, Rózsás Gödény wrote: > > I hope you can make options to start with any of the 3 > > firmwares. > > Perhaps I wish to try writing a boot1 or boot2. > > Um, Boot1 is burned i

Re: free firmware for 88W8388

2008-01-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
Dan Williams writes: > No, you can't. One team reverse engineers the hardware and > creates a specifications document, the second team implements > (from scratch or from unencumbered FOSS sources) the firmware The only "unencumbered FOSS sources" are public domain. Creating BSD code from GPL cod

Re: free firmware for 88W8388

2008-01-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
R?zs?s G?d?ny writes: > I started to modify qemu to emulate 88W8388. Now it can load > the firmware (usb8388.bin) into ram and starts the firmware, Wonderful. I hope you can make options to start with any of the 3 firmwares. Perhaps I wish to try writing a boot1 or boot2. > - emulate the usb de

MIDI does support non-Western music (was: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO)

2008-01-22 Thread Albert Cahalan
imm ian writes: On 22 Jan 2008, at 4:11, Albert Cahalan wrote: >> You don't need to abuse pitch bends. MIDI lets you >> redefine the pitches of the notes. You can redefine >> middle C to be 1234 Hz if you like. > > Mmm, well, yes, but... No "but". You can

Re: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO

2008-01-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 21, 2008 10:43 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. MIDI is limited but more or less universally spoken. Serious > algocompsynth *must* involve support of MIDI. CSound recognized this > years ago. I think that means file storage, input, output, etc. The keyboard produ

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