Re: [Olpc-open] Nortel LearniT animations (Seth Woodworth)

I'd just like to second Bryan's viewpoint here. Hewing to the open media line has been impossible for my small deployment, and my past experience supporting technology in a larger school context is consistent with this. Find a sensible middle ground to make it easy and seamless for those deploying

Re: Mini-conference schedule

For the hangers-on such as myself, it wouldn't be necessary to have a video record if that's too difficult...an audio recording plus slideware might be just fine. (Personally, I am watching XOs be used in a kindergarten tomorrow and Friday, as I have been all week, and will be greatly appreciative

Re: update.1 "breaking" wrapped activities?

Is this the reason that Bryan Berry in Nepal found that Tux Paint did not work, and is the instruction given here: http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Test_Config_Notes&action=edit§ion=29 still the correct way to disable isolation? On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL

XO experience in the classroom - Carol Lerche's daughter

and sugar lists to hear > a summary of your observations in the kindergarten classroom as well. > > -walter > > 2008/4/2 Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > For the hangers-on such as myself, it wouldn't be necessary to have a > video > > record if that&

Re: Notes from a Planning Session

ity cost of devoting engineering resources to the mesh issues when so many other problems vie for this time? Carol Lerche On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear devel@ > > cjb, marcopg, tomeu, myself, and several others conducted a 2-h

Usability testing

g. On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:31 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/11 Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Thank you for sharing this discussion. Upon reading it I had two > questions. > > > > Sugar. I have seen offers on this lis

Re: Usability testing

Greg, Thanks for your information. It would be helpful to characterize age groups when reporting teacher feedback. My observation in Robin's classroom was that the trackpad - select key combination was somewhat difficult for the 5-6 year olds (probably due to their less well developed fine motor

VoiceThreads ... a very interesting education service

seems to fall into the request made for blogging software in a sideways kind of way. Wouldn't it be neat to collaborate either just with XOs or on the school server with a function like this? Carol Lerche ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.lapto

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

The OLPC Association has done amazing things with limited resources and deserves to take great pride in this. However, this Negroponte quotation from the article seems correct to me: He lamented that an overriding insistence on open-source had hampered the XOs, saying Sugar "grew amorphously" and

Re: Sugar on Windows

Virtualization has the merit of being available now (if issues like enabling sound and adjusting to the display differences are addressed.) The problem with virtualization is that it extracts a performance penalty and presents packaging issues. (Maybe the packaging issue could be solved by suffic

Re: A technical assessment of porting "Sugar" to Windows.

Microsoft is in the process of launching a new initiative they call "LiveMesh". In part this seems to be an effort to "enmesh" Windows users in the MS version of Google and Amazon cloud storage, but it is more than that, as it includes p2p synching of files within designated folders on multiple ma

Re: jumpy cursor problem and sugar issue

The touchpad issues were a problem in NYC as well. I noticed that it was most problematic with certain kids who were very "touchy"...they seemed to always have their hands fiddling with the touchpad. Also most common to occur when using paint or colors activity. Only way I could clear the proble

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

I assume many people may already have seen this articleand associated video, but those who have not definitely should. It greatly enhanced my appreciation of the design goals of sugar, and in my opinion shoul

Re: Adobe opens Flash--How much?

What the adobe announcement includes other than removing restrictions on using the specs and protocols is the ability (apparently) to distribute "adobe flash player for devices" and "adobe AIR for devices" for free. Since the flash player is a lightweight implementation that incorporates codecs,

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Sugar on the EEE PC

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Display ...and several pointers to further info in the reference section at the end On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Jaya Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/5/6 John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > The XO has a good reason for existance (MLJ's display, and

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

The notion of keeping track of off-line copies in an online journal is not new. In the olden days of small disks, many archival systems existed that put old files onto archive tapes.They did keep track of the location of the archived file, and some of them prompted the operator (yes, I am desc

OLPC wireless networking in the trade press

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Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

Considering that a whole key on the key board is dedicated to the frame, why not use one of its meta modes (shift, alt) to be the toggle for default off/on of the corner sensitivity? On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Simon, Marco, Eben et al,

Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view

That is exactly what happened in my daughter's class. Scenario is: small child experiences a problem. Adult is supervising multiple children and answering questions, unable to spend 5 minutes focussing on one child's wedged XO. Rebooting deterministically recovers from problems (resets to a kno

Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view

Research of interest is cited here: http://www.cited.org/index.aspx?page_id=151 On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL

Re: [sugar] Help regarding Sugar on Ubuntu

Waqas -- After you fight your way through all these issues, could you make a wiki page that lists all the things you had to do to get this to work? I think lots of people would be very grateful. Carol Lerche ___ Devel mailing list Devel

Re: Video from last week's country meetings.

As to the ppt conversions, it seemed to me that some of the slides had layers overlaid on other layers in the wrong order, obscuring what was written underneath. Perhaps you could just post the ppt files as well as the pdf you converted it to? Did any slides use special effects, e.g. small overla

Re: [OLPC Security] Bitfrost and dual-boot

Microsoft either will or won't use the NAND for its own purposes. However a third option beyond the "dual boot" or "engulf and devour" choices so far described, for a deployment that is more school-centric and less oriented toward laptop autonomy than the OLPC vision, would be to use network file

Re: Notes from Nepal lunch with Rabi

I have thought for a while, especially after my six days of classroom use of these, that having a spare battery per XO and a way of charging these independent of the laptop would be extremely helpful. If the batteries are a $10 part (I thought I had read that before, but can no longer find the re

Re: Downloading large updates and builds in PNG

ample is 20,000 bytes per second). Living at the far end of the DSL reaches, wget is my favorite program! Regards, Carol Lerche On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:29 AM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, FTP is not more reliable, if you have a problem with HTTP downloads > of t

Re: Downloading large updates and builds in PNG

or builds? > > BitTorrent is very reliable, excellent at resuming, doesn't require command > line use, and can take advantage of local seeds. > > Best, > Wade > > 2008/6/9 Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Here is what I did when I was fighting battles with an unrel

Re: A few comments on recent work on Gadget.

I'm puzzled by what you could mean to say "I wrote two prototypes, one using SQLite and one in Python". Do you mean you placed content in a SQLite database using its command line interface? There is a Python interface to SQLite. Do you mean you reimplemented the functions of SQLite in Python? Un

Re: A few comments on recent work on Gadget.

If so, it hardly merits a speed comparison, since the functionality is entirely different. On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Ivan Krstić < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:45 PM, Carol Lerche wrote: > >> I'm puzzled by what you could mean to say "

Re: [IAEP] Running regular X11 apps

dia folk are working on a feature that allows either the gimp style (SDI) or the windows style (MDI). Don't know when it will be released. Gimp is available via the "gimpshop" fork as an MDI application. Does this help? On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings & lists. (reply to).

I don't understand the argument that forcing "Reply-to" to be back to the list eradicates a list participant's ability to get the reply on their preferred email address. Presumably they replied to the list via this address. By forcing "Reply-to" to the list address, all subscribers should receive

Re: (another) WebKit port of Browse

Why does automatic authentication require a custom browser? Client certificates work well for this function in ordinary web applications (assuming a properly configured server). As to collaborative browsing, that use case should be balanced against all the available applications that having a sta

Re: (another) WebKit port of Browse

substantial that this trade off should be considered. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why does automatic authentication require a custom browser? Client > >

Re: (another) WebKit port of Browse

dy of documentation telling how to access these capabilities. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Bobby Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/7/7 Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Client certs can be used for authentication with no changes to a Firefox > > browser or

Fwd: (another) WebKit port of Browse

ty software on the teacher's laptop and keep the CA key material on a thumb drive, as one example. We aren't talking about certs that get an attacker into a financial institution here. Carol Lerche On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Bobby Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mo

Re: (another) WebKit port of Browse

a school server than any I have seen so far. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Bobby Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > 2008/7/7 Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> The U

Re: (another) WebKit port of Browse

wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Martin Langhoff wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Why does automatic authentication require a custom browser? Client >>> certificates work well for this function in ordin

Re: (another) WebKit port of Browse

side in Python for the POC. I write in Perl by choice, so hold your nose. But are you planning to use Apache or lighttpd for the lightweight XS? > > Counting on your help to break this silly thread with actual working code > :-) > I'm happy to oblige!

ssl authentication [was (another) WebKit port of Browse]

> > I am puzzled about the PKI infrastructure you envision. I envision > having a > > private certificate authority that runs on the teacher's XO and keeps its > > keystore on a USB thumb drive. So my favorite CA tool is TinyCA > (currently > > version2) which is written in Perl. This works very

Re: [sugar] ssl authentication [was (another) WebKit port of Browse]

Ivan writes:: While you may believe the setup you have in mind is easy and uncomplicated, the odds are *overwhelmingly*, **super-stunningly** stacked against you to make PKI work the way you want in production. The fact that TLS client certs, in particular, have zero commercial end-user deployment

Re: For review: NAND out of space patch.

Perhaps the browser should police transfer size on download and check for sufficient space before proceeding? I'm guessing this would eliminate most of the out-of-space conditions prospectively, though it doesn't remove the need to provide the "get out of jail" solution that has been the topic of

Re: Google Chrome activity?

According to /. the license includes: *"By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which

Re: G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

This seems weighted toward older kids. I think you should include all of gcompris and TuxPaint. Paint is not a good drawing app for young children (or anybody else, but I digress). Colors is good. Cartoon builder is good for young kids. On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:42 PM, jean piche <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

Please have a look at http://www.gimpshop.com/ which corrals the gimp windows to have a more wm friendly face. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > The X Activity is pretty straight forward. But it does not integrate > the Sugar copy/paste/theming etc. The

Re: [IAEP] Datastore/Journal + Coloring books on the XO?

Just a comment ... I have in the past been one to criticize "coloring within the lines" ... but I have learned that this activity is beneficial for young children as a way to develop fine motor control, needed in handwriting and other activities. So not something to treat as a negative in the righ

Re: New release8.2 build 764

Why not call it a "tester's key"? It is principally useful for testing late-breaking versions. On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:34 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:31 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > >> Reques

Need recommendation for compatible wireless hardware

cess point that could be used with conventional server hardware just by reflashing? Perhaps someone knows a friendly soul in that project.) Carol Lerche -- "Always do right," said Mark Twain. "This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." ___

Re: Project hosting application - TalknType

Agree that this is a worthy project. Two suggestions: 1. Chunking -- It would be awesome if the word pronouncer could pronounce using "chunking" as well, the method literacy teachers use to help emergent readers learn phonics decoding skills. See links on the Phonics page for some resources abo

Re: Printing et al.

ters are to be made truly unimportant for many use cases (and the elimination of the need for paper on the part of the kids and teachers would seem to enhance the cost benefit analysis for olpc adoption), an appealing and robust alternative must be present from the

Re: [OLPC-Games] Violent games on the OLPC Activities page

and guiding children. All teachers, especially when underresourced and faced with huge classes will tell you they spend too much time on bureaucracy. Carol Lerche ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: PDF reader not really user friendly...

On a related topic, I'd like to mention how beautifully a docbook formatted document looks (with a simple css) when read in browse. Given the prevalence of this format, I think it would be beneficial to special-case a mapping of the game keys to understand the links that are conventionally present

Re: Semi-successful Bayer-mode capture from internal camera

>From this resource: http://www.quickcamteam.net/documentation/how-to/how-to-enable-raw-streaming-on-logitech-webcams If Bayer images are captured in any resolution lower than the maximum resolution supported by the sensor, clipping occurs. For example, if the sensor supports 1280x960 and a 960x72

Re: New bible reading activity

hosen religious texts. Carol Lerche ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel