Re: F14 os2 testing images available for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-22 Thread Daniel Drake
On 22 November 2010 09:24, Simon Schampijer wrote: > We have to do that at some point when we want to do a "serious" release. In > any case, I think reporters should indicate a version. We should not abuse > the milestone field to get that information. If someone is doing that already for 10.1.3

Re: F14 os2 testing images available for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-22 Thread Daniel Drake
On 22 November 2010 02:34, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > Used yum to install the 1121 kernel.  Copied new /boot content into > /versions tree.  But booting still brings up the previous 1119 kernel. > > What I did here worked fine with all previous builds.  What more needs > to be done to accomplish a k

Re: F14 os2 testing images available for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-22 Thread Daniel Drake
On 22 November 2010 08:03, Simon Schampijer wrote: > I think we should add a Version field for F14 (e.g. 1.5/1.0 software Build > F14). That field is set by the reporter of an issue. The milestone is set by > the development team/maintainer to triage his work, when he thinks that > issue can/will

Re: F14 os2 testing images available for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On 22 November 2010 00:06, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > XO-1 It keeps asking me over and over for a keyring password. > > What is this for ? Open bug; this is http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2339 > How can I nullify this function ? It does go away if you are persistent. Choose an empty password.

Re: F14 os2 testing images available for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On 21 November 2010 23:24, Daniel Drake wrote: > Fire away! > > bootanim is still in use. > However, it does not live in the initramfs. It is launched from there though. The initramfs changes described in this thread were only small, mostly just 1 more modularization step so that y

Re: F14 os2 testing images available for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On 21 November 2010 23:13, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > I have dozen little questions about it (like - do you still include > our bootanim there? thinking about the fsck story...). I will probably > need to find the time to rea

Re: F14 os2 testing images available for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-21 Thread Daniel Drake
On 21 November 2010 20:47, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: >> "Run" initramfs slimmed down to 1.9mb (no python in any non-activation >> bootpath) (for faster boot) > > Does it actually boot faster? I recall you were a

F14 os2 testing images available for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-21 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, Simon has built new Fedora 14 images for XO-1 and XO-1.5, available here: http://build.laptop.org/F14/os2/ These efforts are now official so we'll step towards making this into a proper release. There are still some pretty obvious issues though, which we'll be working through. Bug reports ar

XO-1.5 ACPI ebook switch

2010-11-19 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, I'm looking at getting the XO-1.5 ACPI kernel changes upstream. Right now, the ebook switch has its own kernel driver for the XO15EBK HID, it seems like a design decision was taken in the ACPI DSDT that we should invent our own class instead of using the standard ACPI button one. However, th

Re: Rebuilding a kernel with olpc-kernel-builder

2010-11-19 Thread Daniel Drake
On 17 November 2010 17:38, Martin Langhoff wrote: > I am trying to rebuild our kernel with a couple of patches on top... > >  - on a F11 build host, trying to build an XO-1.5 / F11 series kernel >  - cloned olpc-kernel-builder >  - fiddled with the paths to match my local setup >  - run and ... fa

Re: Device nodes for mmcblk ...

2010-11-19 Thread Daniel Drake
On 19 November 2010 02:03, Martin Langhoff wrote: > So for example if you want /home on an external SD card, use UUIDs . Another option: use the bus-indexed device nodes in /dev/disk/mmc Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists

Re: XO-1 DCON trouble with new kernels

2010-11-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On 13 November 2010 23:41, Daniel Drake wrote: > Will study the LX docs and geode X driver for more clues. The X driver doesn't seem to do anything of relevance, but studying the docs leads me to conclude that the identified commit is wrong. Submitted a fix here: http://marc.info/?l=lin

Re: XO-1 DCON trouble with new kernels

2010-11-13 Thread Daniel Drake
On 13 November 2010 23:30, Mitch Bradley wrote: > I wonder if, in the VT case, the driver is stopping the display controller > soon after clearing the DCONLOAD pin?  In that case, I can imagine that the > DCON would be unable to capture new data because it would no longer have > PIXCLK, HYSNC, and

XO-1 DCON trouble with new kernels

2010-11-13 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction, regarding how the DCON works. On new kernels, XO-1 DCON freeze doesn't work when you are on the virtual terminal. The current display does not seem to get loaded into the DCON memory, but then the freeze (video source switch) does h

Re: RHEL6

2010-11-13 Thread Daniel Drake
On 13 November 2010 13:05, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > Back in April, there was a long discussion ( > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2010-April/thread.html#28118 ) > about RHEL6 as a base for an LTS OLPC/Sugar base. > I was wondering if with the arrival of RHEL6 these thoughts are >

xorg.conf.d and Sisusb

2010-11-09 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, I'm working on switching us over to the new xorg.conf.d system for F14 which allows us to drop everything in our xorg.conf except for the OLPC-specific stuff that is really needed. Hopefully I won't be breaking sisusb with this change. Any chance you could test it so that I'm not committing b

alternative openchrome rotate design

2010-10-28 Thread Daniel Drake
Latest openchrome patches from Jon N result in working rotation, but have some downsides: a loss of 2D accel in the rotated modes, and overall bad performance even in general operation. (but much better than nothing!) Bernie explained to me how Geode does rotation and I investigated to see if open

Re: Synaptics driver on XO-1.5 hw?

2010-10-28 Thread Daniel Drake
On 28 October 2010 15:54, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On XO-1, we have a long painful history with synaptics and the EC, > that's led to it being disabled. Instead we use the PS2 protocol. > > I just realised that we still do that on XO-1.5 on F11 and F14 builds, > and can't find commentary from anyo

Re: OLPC wireless startup at boot time

2010-10-20 Thread Daniel Drake
On 20 October 2010 15:28, Martin Langhoff wrote: > The hardcoded sleep *is* being removed. IME, that'll first uncover a > variety of bugs and odd interactions/races in various drivers and > hardwares it has been covering for. It wasn't a workaround for races or bugs. It was a fundamental part of

Re: OLPC wireless startup at boot time

2010-10-20 Thread Daniel Drake
On 20 October 2010 09:14, Hal Murray wrote: > On lid open, the WiFi LED blinks a few times, finds a few APs, but doesn't > find my AP.  After a long pause (10+ seconds), it blinks again, finds my AP, > turns the LED on, and connects to my AP. > > I just measured the pause at 20 seconds.  Is there

Re: olpc-os-builder -- injecting Sugar translations

2010-10-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On 14 October 2010 16:58, Martin Langhoff wrote: > We have 4 local languages that are not in Sugar nor Linux/Fedora > localizations. The plan so far is to start working on Sugar's Pootle > for Sugar and Activities. The timeframes don't allow for a full cycle > upstream (not even glibc knows about

Re: OFW u:/boot/bootfw.zip vs wp tag

2010-10-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On 14 October 2010 16:36, Martin Langhoff wrote: > [Training a team in mx so brief.] > > Just discovered that when security is disabled, OFW Q3A41 will probe > int:/boot/bootfw.zip but not u:/boot/bootfw.zip . > > So OFW upgrades trigger automatically after an OS upgrade (where the > newer bootfw.

Re: XO keymap blues

2010-10-07 Thread Daniel Drake
On 7 October 2010 21:42, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Hi! > > Several months ago I stumbled over the fact that when running Debian on > my XOs (XO-1 and XO-1.5, currently testing on XO-1.5) the keymap is > different from the one the OLPC builds use. > > Today I took a look at this, but I'm stuck: I do no

Re: OLPC-OS-Builder

2010-10-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 October 2010 20:35, Juliano Bittencourt wrote: > >     I've been helping Hellanio to get his build with kdelibs and koffice. I   > hit awkward error in preimage.90.core.sh > >     After some investigation I isolated the error when olpc-os-build compile > the python bytecode > > /usr/lib/pyth

Re: OLPC-OS-Builder

2010-10-03 Thread Daniel Drake
On 3 October 2010 16:48, Hellânio Costa wrote: > #   also removed some packages in Gnome no need to modify the code, you can use custom_packages to remove them > ERROR:root:Error creating Live CD : fsck returned an error! > ERROR: Failure in BuildStage: module base, part build.40.imagecreate.py,

Re: OLPC-OS-Builder

2010-09-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On 29 September 2010 20:20, Hellânio Costa wrote: > Now I'm worried because even just leaving a package in custom_packages error > persists. No, thats a different error. I think you'd have to post more of the output to make sense of it. Daniel ___ Deve

Re: OLPC-OS-Builder

2010-09-27 Thread Daniel Drake
On 27 September 2010 20:04, Hellânio Costa wrote: > Did with custom_packages and even then the error is the same one has any > idea which package is giving this error? Have you confirmed that the error does not occur if you make a build without any customizations? Daniel

Re: boot device detection

2010-09-25 Thread Daniel Drake
On 25 September 2010 20:50, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > I was wondering if there is any way to read the "dn-buf" in the the > "set-path-macro" of the  olpc.fth or the content of ${DN} itself. You didn't really state what you're trying to do. I assume you're talking about forth. Yes, just stud

Re: OLPC-OS-Builder

2010-09-24 Thread Daniel Drake
On 24 September 2010 14:12, Hellânio Costa wrote: > ok, > need to install the koffice-suite on the laptop besides some applications, > you see: > I edited for convenience only "kspkglist.50.gnome.inc" You should use the custom_packages module and avoid modifying olpc-os-builder code to add new pa

Re: OLPC-OS-Builder

2010-09-24 Thread Daniel Drake
On 24 September 2010 13:01, Hellânio Costa wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I'm having a problem when working with them olpc-builder, because it returns > the following error: > > os19: 71283/131072 files (0.9% non-contiguous), 386289/524288 blocks >  * Running part mountfs base mountfs.50.mount.sh... >

Detecting XO-1.5 in kernel boot

2010-09-21 Thread Daniel Drake
I'm working on XO-1.5 support upstream and would appreciate comments on the following: The very core "am I an XO?" check that runs during boot is this: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/arch/x86/kernel/olpc.c#L212 It runs ioremap() on 0xffc0 and expects to read the OFW signature "CL1

Re: olpc-utils: Patch USB2VGA changes on systemd-compat master branch

2010-09-17 Thread Daniel Drake
On 17 September 2010 21:16, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > I realised too late that the master branch of olpc-utils is now on > systemd. I reworked my patch to work correctly, but don't want to push > it out without a chance to test it - Fedora just dropped systemd so we'll have to rewor

Re: Rebuilding olpc-utils outside of Fedora infra?

2010-09-17 Thread Daniel Drake
On 17 September 2010 21:33, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > I am trying to make a quick rebuild of olpc-utils (branch v1.0). The > build infra inside of it is stale, and I understand that the F11 > packages we have are coming from the Fedora repo. > > Not sure how we'd rebuild it *outside*

Re: Bad interaction between sleep timeouts and Salut?

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel Drake
On 16 September 2010 18:11, John Gilmore wrote: > It's pretty simple, actually.  When in "idle suspend", the system should > remain fully functional, just burning fewer ergs.  It's an optimization, > not a change of behavior. > > This means the system should wake up anytime it would've gotten an >

Re: Bad interaction between sleep timeouts and Salut?

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel Drake
On 16 September 2010 18:54, John Watlington wrote: > On XO-1.5, the use of an SD interface makes suspend/resume without > turning off the WLAN work much better. Actually, http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9960 shows that wake-on-WLAN is unreliable on XO-1.5. It's a trivial test to make it break. In an

Re: #10363 NORM 10.1.3: Auto-Suspend gets in the way when sharing over Salut

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel Drake
On 16 September 2010 10:05, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>  Is there any workaround we can apply -- seems like Salut or the much >>  maligned Presence Service has some regular event that re-syncs the nodes, >>  can we make it more often? (Sam suggested this earlier though I didn't >>  understand what he m

Re: Bad interaction between sleep timeouts and Salut?

2010-09-16 Thread Daniel Drake
On 16 September 2010 10:14, Sascha Silbe wrote: > > Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Thu Sep 16 10:24:26 +0200 2010: > >> Assuming the problem is in the Avahi level, we should make sure that >> the system is coming out from suspend when the radio receives >> multicast activity directed to u

Re: olpc-update and deletion of old images

2010-09-09 Thread Daniel Drake
On 9 September 2010 18:01, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Can we do it in the bg with a very low-pri process? We'd have to mark > the "pristine" as "in process of deletion" if the deletion is stopped > we continue the job next round. It's an option, but I'm thinking that deleting the whole thing might

Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 September 2010 15:59, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: > The problem isn't evince or gnome-python2 but that Read needs to be > updated again for the new upstream evince api changes (again). You're right in that Read changes are needed, but there is already a git tree floating around with such cha

olpc-update and deletion of old images

2010-09-06 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, When olpc-update updates you from version A to version B, version A remains on the system and can be accessed by booting with the 'O' game key held down. As far as I know, this functionality is rarely used, and has inherent problems. Specifically it requires Sugar developers to be able to pre

Re: [Sugar-devel] Enhancing Sugar to support multiple users

2010-09-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 5 September 2010 13:57, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hi, > > I just created a new ticket (http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2292) to get > some discussions started on what changes need to be made to Sugar to work > well in an environment where multiple users will work on the same machine > (whi

Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-04 Thread Daniel Drake
On 4 September 2010 03:24, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >> For now, please don't file bugs unless you include patches. > > I can understand not wanting bug reports against items which OLPC/Sugar > are still in the process of changing.  But why defer reporting problems > which might not be addressed unle

Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 1 September 2010 10:14, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > This driver should be ported to F11/10.1.2 ASAP. Is day and night compared to > 2.11.8 when I run it in puppy. The XO-1 is like a new machine. > pls do _not_ wait for 10.1.3 That's impossible. 10.1.2 has been released. Daniel ___

Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 1 September 2010 00:49, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: > With the kernel nearing a recent release is there any plans to get a > chunk of the kernel patches upstream to ease on going maintenance? I cleaned up the history a lot, which is the first big step in doing this. It's a task I'd be interest

Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-08-31 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, After seeing the community help significantly with F11-on-XO development, I'm wondering if we can do something similar for a future release. So, I've taken the first few steps in getting OLPC's technologies rebased on Fedora 14 and Linux v2.6.35. The result has lots of problems, but I figure

Re: [PATCH] sl#2259: Set Firefox default DPI to 96

2010-08-31 Thread Daniel Drake
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Re: olpc-configure

2010-08-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On 14 August 2010 13:35, Jerry Vonau wrote: > I don't want en_US.UTF-8, I want what I set in os-builders' > base/ksmain.10.core.inc file, I'm changing the install language there. This is basically just an unimplemented feature. We currently assume that all deployments want to default to the langu

Re: quick start info for kernel related bugs/fixes

2010-08-26 Thread Daniel Drake
On 26 August 2010 04:30, wrote: > I am looking for some info for getting started. > Firstly are there any patches/fixes which we need to get from upstream > kernel, which are to be ported(or backported) to olpc kernel. I don't think there are any of these pending. > Or may be > there are patche

Re: Practical experience using olpc-update triggered from XS?

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel Drake
On 25 August 2010 10:50, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: >> Yep, I set up all the infra in paraguay and ran a trivial update in 1 school. >> http://wiki.paraguayeduca.org/index.php/Distribuir_nueva_OS > > And how did it work

Re: Practical experience using olpc-update triggered from XS?

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel Drake
On 25 August 2010 09:54, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Daniel, Py team, all, > > Have there been experiences triggering olpc-update from the OATS protocol? > > I have not done this in the field, and I am considering it for a > "small" update. Should work, but interested in notes from people who > have

Re: [Server-devel] Schoolserver development in Uruguay

2010-08-19 Thread Daniel Drake
On 19 August 2010 21:51, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > El Thu, 19-08-2010 a las 20:56 -0600, Daniel Drake escribió: > >> XS-0.6 and some of the package updates that come later fix a few bugs >> related to ejabberd CPU/DB. I guess in Paraguay they are still on 0.5. > > Indeed

Re: [PATCH] Disable some useless cron jobs

2010-08-19 Thread Daniel Drake
Thanks for the patch, but these are already disabled within the very same file. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: git help needed for 2.6.34 kernel branch revival

2010-08-19 Thread Daniel Drake
On 19 August 2010 09:43, Martin Langhoff wrote: > I think I know what you want -- and I'm an old git hand. Should be able to > help > > You have an "oldish" 2.6.31 + patches and you want to "rebase" those > onto 2.6.34, without getting tangled with. So the first step would be > >  get the latest

Re: git help needed for 2.6.34 kernel branch revival

2010-08-17 Thread Daniel Drake
On 17 August 2010 15:26, Paul Fox wrote: > i probably don't understand the problem well enough.  i was > thinking that merging in the rest of the -stable kernels (and > there would be a lot of them, from 2.6.31.7 to 2.6.34.N) would > get you closer, in a more automated way.  the more i think about

Re: git help needed for 2.6.34 kernel branch revival

2010-08-17 Thread Daniel Drake
On 17 August 2010 15:08, Paul Fox wrote: > would it work better to merge each of the the -stable kernels > in turn?  because then you'd probably get the undo of the -stable > change along with the mainline change that supercedes it.  but that > might not work, and it would be a lot of merges. Not

git help needed for 2.6.34 kernel branch revival

2010-08-17 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, I'm playing with a few forward-looking ideas, one of them being upgrading OLPC's kernel from version 2.6.31 to 2.6.34. And always open to learning more about git... Now, a good while back, Deepak started working on a 2.6.34 branch, presumably forked from the 2.6.31 one that we were working on

Re: Disabling pretty-boot

2010-07-28 Thread Daniel Drake
On 28 July 2010 15:22, Hal Murray wrote: > > os301 had pretty-boot disabled to help diagnose  #9100 > os302 doesn't do that any more. Now that we got the diagnosis there's no reason to have it disabled at the moment. Next step in diagnosis will likely be getting a serial console kit sent out to y

Idle suspend instabilities on XO-1

2010-07-24 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, I'm happy that we experimented but I think it's too early to turn on idle suspend on the XO-1 builds, like we have attempted for 10.1.2. http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10233 Mouse wakeups do not work well http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10232#comment:8 XO loses association during idle suspend (an

Re: [IAEP] Redesigning: Library, Read, Get-Books, and Content bundles

2010-07-20 Thread Daniel Drake
On 20 July 2010 12:33, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > So what if we created a "Library Activity" > The activity would: > -Open a book from within the activity > -Highlight and annotate books > -List all of the books you have downloaded > -Allow you to search and download additional books from Feed Books

Re: Filesystem in F11 builds

2010-07-20 Thread Daniel Drake
On 19 July 2010 06:22, Esteban Bordon wrote: > Can this happen because the option versioned_fs=0 under base section? > Reading the README file of base module I found this text: > [base] options: > - versioned_fs (default 1) > Set to 0 to disable the "upgradeable" /versions-based filesystem layout.

Re: Filesystem in F11 builds

2010-07-16 Thread Daniel Drake
On 16 July 2010 12:29, Esteban Bordon wrote: > Hi all! > I'm working on F11-XO1 build to Uruguay and I made a dracut module that it > mount user's home in the sd card. I'm using olpc-os-builder-1.1.0 and > resultant image filesystem haven't got the structure specified > in http://wiki.laptop.org/g

Re: New XO-1 10.1.2 build 301

2010-07-16 Thread Daniel Drake
On 15 July 2010 21:31, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > El Wed, 14-07-2010 a las 18:39 -0400, Chris Ball escribió: > >> -NetworkManager-0.7.2.997-2.git20100609.fc11.i586 >> +NetworkManager-0.7.2.997-2.git20100609.fc11.olpc1.i586 > > Shouldn't this be .olpc1.fc11? No! Daniel

Re: [Sugar-devel] behaviour of F-keys on XO HS

2010-07-15 Thread Daniel Drake
On 15 July 2010 18:26, Walter Bender wrote: > Presumably there is a way to detect which keyboard is installed in the > machine? While I love Gonzalo's use of the F5-F8 keys, the need for > Frame and Journal keys on the non-membrane keyboards is more important > in my experience. Yes, let's limit

behaviour of F-keys on XO HS

2010-07-15 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, On the XO HS (highschool edition, the one with a more "normal" keyboard) we're facing some questions about how the F keys should function, under sugar and GNOME. The technicalities are in http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10213 and here is a picture of the keyboard: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_

Re: New XO-1 10.1.2 build 300

2010-07-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On 9 July 2010 00:52, Hal Murray wrote: > I've seen it hang during booting, 2 out of 6-10 tries.  There is one dot > visible and the big X is still an X before it changes to a V and goes around > in a circle.  Is there anything I can do to collect more info? For build 301 we've disabled pretty bo

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-13 Thread Daniel Drake
On 13 July 2010 06:17, Daniel Drake wrote: > On 12 July 2010 19:27, James Cameron wrote: >> I'm still unconvinced that this is worth changing, given the additional >> work that it will cause. >> >> I'd like to hear from the heavy users of trac, in particu

Re: xo-1 os300 -- switch off mesh?

2010-07-13 Thread Daniel Drake
On 12 July 2010 17:59, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there a way to tweak the os300 build so that it brings up the > Libertas device just as eth0 (and doesn't enable the 802.11s features > in the firmware)? Just curious, why? The usual NetworkManager methods (if any?) should work, goo

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-13 Thread Daniel Drake
On 12 July 2010 19:27, James Cameron wrote: > I'm still unconvinced that this is worth changing, given the additional > work that it will cause. > > I'd like to hear from the heavy users of trac, in particular Chris (cjb), > Daniel (dsd), and Paul (pgf). I think our current system made sense temp

Re: GNOME/nautilus: set default to browser mode

2010-07-09 Thread Daniel Drake
Thanks for the feedback here and IRC, I set the default to browser mode like they are doing in peru. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

GNOME/nautilus: set default to browser mode

2010-07-09 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, In Peru, they are customizing their GNOME build in that they are setting Nautilus to browser mode by default. The existing default in our version of GNOME is to open one window per directory that is opened, browser mode looks more like: http://richbradshaw.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/nautilus.

Re: New XO-1 10.1.2 build 300

2010-07-09 Thread Daniel Drake
On 9 July 2010 00:52, Hal Murray wrote: > I've seen it hang during booting, 2 out of 6-10 tries.  There is one dot > visible and the big X is still an X before it changes to a V and goes around > in a circle.  Is there anything I can do to collect more info? Could be http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/

Re: New XO-1 10.1.2 build 300

2010-07-08 Thread Daniel Drake
If anyone is in a power-measuring mode, it would be nice to measure the power usage when the Record activity is active and displaying the live feed, and compare it to measurements of the same situation on 8.2.1 build 802. We have halved the amount of data coming from the camera which will hopefull

Re: New XO-1 10.1.2 build 300

2010-07-08 Thread Daniel Drake
To answer a few inevitable questions: This is F11 + Sugar 0.84 + GNOME 2.26, for XO-1. It's unsigned, meaning that you need a developer key to install it. I think OLPC will start producing signed betas soon. It's similar to recent builds made by Steven Parrish, and the 0.84 variant of the Paragu

Important change in olpc-os-builder procedure

2010-07-08 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, With the purpose of allowing deployments to reconstruct and customize OLPC OS releases, we documented the process of checking out the latest version of olpc-os-builder from git and using it to construct OLPC OS images, and I gave some sessions on this process at various deployments. I've iden

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 July 2010 15:03, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Well, granting root access from the console already weakens it to the > point of being useless. Who would bother to setup a fake DHCP, DNS and > NTP server when it takes 20 seconds to crack it from the console? :-) Right. So with that logic, lets ju

bitfrost assertion checks were lost

2010-07-06 Thread Daniel Drake
A few months ago we enabled Python optimizations in the OLPC builds causing python's "assert" statement to do nothing. Martin Langhoff pointed out that we're dropping some important parts of bitfrost's code with this change - we do want to be making these checks. Here's a patch to restore the previ

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 July 2010 10:10, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Laptops with anti-theft enabled can get the time from the OATS server > when it's off by more than 24 hours. Unlocked laptops don't have a way > to synchronize the time at all. > > All we need to fix it is a trivial shell script. Why not do it? I th

Re: NetworkManager time sync

2010-07-05 Thread Daniel Drake
On 5 July 2010 21:44, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Maybe someone's got a copy of build 653 lying around and they can run > rpm -q for us. While we have your attention on this topic... Do you not think that this is a security issue? In that a thief could put a laptop on a network with rigged DNS and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-05 Thread Daniel Drake
On 3 July 2010 16:52, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > I checked: olpc-update-query only sets the clock if it's off by more > than 24hours, so it cannot serve as a replacement for ntpdate. What's the requirement for super-accurate clocks on the XO? Daniel ___

Re: Activities owned by root in recent xo-1.5 builds?

2010-06-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On 28 June 2010 14:52, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > >   > This is os203 (sorry! Should have mentioned it -- ) > > Ooh, thanks for noticing that.  In that case, I can look farther back > in the history and decide to blame: > > http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-os-builder/commit/?id=fb74bbaf81fe2

inventario-0.4 released

2010-06-25 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, ParaguayEduca created a great Rails-based inventory system for their deployment in Paraguay. I've spent the last few weeks adapting it for Peru, where it is also planned to be used. Most of my changes were able to go back into Paraguay's codebase, and we've made a v0.4 release. http://wiki.pa

Re: [Sugar-devel] Removing 'share' option from activites that don't know how to share

2010-06-25 Thread Daniel Drake
Here is the list - Implode (No comparte en ninguna version) - Paint (No comparte en ninguna version) - Labyrinth - Flipsticks - Cuerpo Humano - English for Fun - JigsawPuzzle (no comparte en version 0.84 pero si en 0.82) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lis

Re: SD / Filesystem write lags -- test?

2010-06-23 Thread Daniel Drake
On 23 June 2010 16:08, Martin Langhoff > you've mentioned some interesting details to our writes-to-SD-are-slow > issues. Do we have a good scripted test that is current to the problem > (as we understand it today)? I wrote one, you can find it here: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9688 It replicate

Re: [Sugar-devel] Keep confusion -- round N+1

2010-06-23 Thread Daniel Drake
On 23 June 2010 15:49, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Continuing on the tradition of "Keep confusion, yet again" thread > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-April/023440.html > > I was yesterday in a conf call with the Perú team, who had been > working with teachers and were reporting a

Re: F13 glibc with nopl instructions - an explanation

2010-06-15 Thread Daniel Drake
On 8 June 2010 17:33, Daniel Drake wrote: > What are the next steps? Do we take this back to FESCO? When is the > next meeting? We're on the agenda for today's meeting which starts in about 1 hour. #fedora-meeting on freenode. Daniel _

Re: Paraguay's os-builder

2010-06-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On 14 June 2010 11:22, Esteban Bordon wrote: > which is that repo? > olpc-os-builder is using http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~dsd/repos/f11/ for > ilpc-utils and the latest version is 1.0.22-2 oops. Chris, Sayamindu, (and me - done), please delete your f11 olpc-utils public RPMs. They are blocking olpc

Re: Reason for the "one dot" hang found!

2010-06-10 Thread Daniel Drake
On 10 June 2010 10:58, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Hello, > > with the serial cable Richard gave me, I figured out what's causing a > rare lockup during boot which has been riddling the XO-1 since when we > moved to F11. > > The /etc/rc.sysinit script contains this line: > >  # Sync waiting for stor

Re: Reason for the "one dot" hang found!

2010-06-10 Thread Daniel Drake
On 10 June 2010 18:32, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > It's the camera controller. Hence, the other module being loaded must be > cafe_ccic. > > Looking at the initialization of cafe_ccic, there seems to be a > complicated dance of mutexes and spin locks, plus a kernel thread and a > bunch of sleeps. Al

F13 glibc with nopl instructions - an explanation

2010-06-08 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, In the FESCO meeting today (http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-06-08/fesco.2010-06-08-19.30.log.txt), Fedora developers and some members of the OLPC community discussed the loss of Geode LX (i.e. XO-1) support in F13. It looks like we are all in agreement that the loss of su

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Daniel Drake
On 7 June 2010 20:05, James Cameron wrote: > You are placing far more trust in a trivial rebuild than I would.  Once > Fedora ceases testing the actual instruction streams we will be using, > we will be providing the testing instead.  There are some interesting > classes of bugs that this would in

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Daniel Drake
On 7 June 2010 17:58, Peter Robinson wrote: >> In this case, the Fedora packages are now unusable, so rebuilding them >> would be needed. I'm not sure that this counts as progressing to >> "rolling our own distro" since the rebuild would be fully automatic, >> and that the end result would only ha

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Daniel Drake
On 7 June 2010 18:33, Peter Robinson wrote: > 1) I thought we'd moved away from rolling our own distro due to the > amount of time and engineering resources it required that OLPC no > longer had. Has this changed? IE is there an internal thing that has > changed that hasn't been announced external

Re: XO-1 build + Gnash update

2010-06-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 June 2010 15:30, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > For those in charge of the official stable build: > http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/ > > Is it possible to just release a new official version of 802 with one > simple change -- just package the latest stable version of Gnash with > it? (I

Re: challenges of distro switching

2010-06-05 Thread Daniel Drake
On 5 June 2010 12:14, Tiago Marques wrote: > I built OLPC's kernel in Gentoo with no problems, which helped me a lot to > start. The rest works great. Perhaps we aren't talking about the same things. I'm referring to how we can build an image which would be suitable for OLPC 1:1 deployments at la

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-04 Thread Daniel Drake
On 4 June 2010 21:48, Tiago Marques wrote: > If you're planning on doing a repository exclusively for the XO-1, Gentoo is > simple to setup and, from what I read on this mailing list, thicks all your > boxes: I'm a Gentoo fan myself. But you're talking about a whole new project here. Packaging al

Re: New Malaria Game

2010-06-03 Thread Daniel Drake
On 3 June 2010 13:45, World Class Project- Dev Team wrote: > Dear Developers, > > We have just uploaded an activity that teaches children about > Malaria. > > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/search?q=malaria&cat=all > > The Free From Malaria game tells the story of Paul, a boy who live

Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-02 Thread Daniel Drake
In another thread, we've been discussing the issue that Fedora 12 changed base architecture from i586 to i686. The XO-1 processor (Geode LX) is a i586. Fedora 12 seems to run OK (although I suspect there will be a few broken packages), but Fedora 13 is more obviously broken (for a start, glibc does

Re: multicast route missing on ad-hoc+mesh

2010-06-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 1 June 2010 12:04, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Daniel, I searched a bit on the NM-list but could not find that previous > discussion, can you point me to it? Subject line IP4Config and routes Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http:/

Re: multicast route missing on ad-hoc+mesh (was: Re: [Testing] os240py - collaboration over wireless)

2010-06-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 1 June 2010 02:55, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Excerpts from James Cameron's message of Tue Jun 01 00:42:38 + 2010: >> Yep, that's it.  Sugar is entirely relying on the existence of this >> multicast route, and it is not present on os240py. >> >> It can temporarily be added after mesh is started:

Re: [Testing] os240py - collaboration over wireless

2010-05-31 Thread Daniel Drake
On 31 May 2010 00:03, James Cameron wrote: > I've reproduced "no sharing" over mesh on os240py. > > Activity sharing works via access point. > > Activity sharing works via "Create new wireless network" aka ad-hoc. I'm pretty sure this will be another case of there being no default multicast route

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