Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-22 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:51, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 16:03 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: >>> Agreed. You can do what you are doing (run a school on newish sw, get >>> a tight feedback & bugfix loop) when someone lik

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:51, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 16:03 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> Agreed. You can do what you are doing (run a school on newish sw, get >> a tight feedback & bugfix loop) when someone like you is there. > [...] >> Yes -- but we gotta remember tha

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-22 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 16:03 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Agreed. You can do what you are doing (run a school on newish sw, get > a tight feedback & bugfix loop) when someone like you is there. [...] > Yes -- but we gotta remember that it's productive (specially for > Sugar) because you are ther

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> So no XS in place? > > The repair lab is not nearby any of the schools. Ah - ok. Thanks for clarifying. >> Downstreams that go to deployment (OLPC!) want to wait until a release >> is reasonably well tested and stabilised. > > We have a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 10:46 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > Me too, but it's not as bad as it seems: the techies use a simple shell > > script to backup and restore the journal (and scratch data) across > > So no XS in place? The repai

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Me too, but it's not as bad as it seems: the techies use a simple shell > script to backup and restore the journal (and scratch data) across So no XS in place? >> It feels uncomfortable that Sugar 0.84 is already a year old effort >> as

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 20:50 +, Gary C Martin wrote: > Agreed, though this argument only really works if the changes > each time are easy to install from the user perspective with > no loss of data. I wish we were doing much better here. Me too, but it's not as bad as it seems: the techies use

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Gary C Martin
On 13 Mar 2010, at 18:12, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 12:07 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti >> wrote: >>> If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better >>> quality than build 801, provided you disable