Re: [Milkymist-devel] [LLHDL] FPGA Toolchain slides

2011-10-12 Thread Werner Almesberger
sebastien.bourdeaud...@lekernel.net wrote: > FPGA and CPLD algoritms are quite different. Oh, I had hoped they had more in common. Pity :-( - Werner ___ http://lists.milkymist.org/listinfo.cgi/devel-milkymist.org IRC: #milkymist@Freenode

Re: [Milkymist-devel] [LLHDL] FPGA Toolchain slides

2011-10-12 Thread sebastien . bourdeauducq
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:30:21 -0300, Werner Almesberger wrote: That way, it would be an item one can afford to try "risky" things on. FPGA and CPLD algoritms are quite different. ___ http://lists.milkymist.org/listinfo.cgi/devel-milkymist.org IRC: #mi

Re: [Milkymist-devel] [LLHDL] FPGA Toolchain slides

2011-10-12 Thread Werner Almesberger
Uwe Bonnes wrote: > A CPLD is very low on resources. Yeah, and very very cheap. Some are ~ USD 1 at low quantities, so an M1 daughter board with the CPLD, maybe an LDO, an inter-PCB connector and maybe a few headers and a LED or two could sell for perhaps USD 10 apiece. That way, it would be an i

Re: [Milkymist-devel] [LLHDL] FPGA Toolchain slides

2011-10-12 Thread Uwe Bonnes
> "Werner" == Werner Almesberger writes: ... Werner> E.g., a simple M1 daughter board with a CPLD (CPLDs are the Werner> "little brothers" of FPGAs) or a low-end FPGA could also be Werner> useful as a programmable test pattern generator or dummy device Werner> for analyzing F

Re: [Milkymist-devel] [LLHDL] FPGA Toolchain slides

2011-10-11 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
> E.g., a simple M1 daughter board with a CPLD (CPLDs are the "little > brothers" of FPGAs) or a low-end FPGA could also be useful as a > programmable test pattern generator or dummy device for analyzing > FPGA behaviour. Excellent new idea! :-) I added it to this page for now collecting ideas for

Re: [Milkymist-devel] [LLHDL] FPGA Toolchain slides

2011-10-11 Thread Werner Almesberger
Jon Phillips wrote: > I don't understand everything you are saying, but it is great to see > the details coming out on why Milkymist is amazing. Great work! Heh, I'd say it's not so much about M1 per se but about who really owns your FPGA. The presentation does a very nice job of dispelling vario

Re: [Milkymist-devel] [LLHDL] FPGA Toolchain slides

2011-10-11 Thread Jon Phillips
I don't understand everything you are saying, but it is great to see the details coming out on why Milkymist is amazing. Great work! Jon On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:10 PM, wrote: > On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:35:59 -0700, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: >> >> Great talk. I was able to at least read the sli

Re: [Milkymist-devel] [LLHDL] FPGA Toolchain slides

2011-10-11 Thread sebastien . bourdeauducq
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:35:59 -0700, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: Great talk. I was able to at least read the slides yesterday. Today I get 404 did you move it somewhere else? Some dreamhost bugs... (dreamhoststatus.com) They're mirrored on the OHWR page: http://www.ohwr.org/projects/ohr-meta/wiki