Re: [Milkymist-devel] DVI notes

2011-10-19 Thread Sébastien Bourdeauducq
On 10/19/2011 04:24 AM, Wolfgang Spraul wrote: So... it's still a valid question whether moving pins from one bank to another will force us to deal with two different bitstreams now. Yes, it will. > Is that for single-link or dual-link? Single-link, which I think will cause plenty of PCB rout

Re: [Milkymist-devel] DVI notes

2011-10-18 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
> On the M1, there are plenty of suitable I/Os available in bank 2, so > we'll use it. We need a minimum of 8 I/Os (4 differential pairs: RGB > + clock). Is that for single-link or dual-link? I kind of like the idea of routing a full set of dual-link wires to the DVI-I connector now. Even if we d

Re: [Milkymist-devel] DVI notes

2011-10-18 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
> Whether this end is imminent of not, I don't know. But if this > change makes you need a separate bitstream, then that's an issue > you probably couldn't avoid for very long anyway. That doesn't really answer my question. The ability to provide one bitstream to work across all Milkymist One boar

Re: [Milkymist-devel] DVI notes

2011-10-18 Thread Werner Almesberger
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: > Would that make it difficult to have one bitstream that works across > all Milkymist One boards? I'd say that this would be the kind of change that accelerates the process that ends with the inability of having a common bitstream :) Whether this end is imminent of not, I

Re: [Milkymist-devel] DVI notes

2011-10-18 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
> Would moving some of the bank 0 I/Os to bank 2 to make room be an > option ? If bank 0 is U22A, SD_* and LED1/2 may be suitable > candidates for a relocation. Would that make it difficult to have one bitstream that works across all Milkymist One boards? __

Re: [Milkymist-devel] DVI notes

2011-10-18 Thread Werner Almesberger
S?bastien Bourdeauducq wrote: > * TMDS is supported in banks 0 and 2 with VCCO=3.3V (Reference > document: Bank 0 = U22A and bank 2 = U22C ? > On the M1, there are plenty of suitable I/Os available in bank 2, so > we'll use it. We need a minimum of 8 I/Os (4 differential pairs: RGB > + clock). W

[Milkymist-devel] DVI notes

2011-10-18 Thread Sébastien Bourdeauducq
Hi, here are some resources for supporting DVI on the M1: * DVI-A and DDC are already present from VGA. We simply use the same schematics, with the different connector. * For DVI-D, we have to use TMDS signaling. It is supported directly by the FPGA I/Os. * DVI-A and DVI-D can be combined into