Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-09-27 Thread Jerrod Frost
That will be put in the new release info once we make a new "release" here soon. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017, 9:31 AM Svantoviit wrote: > I would appreciate an announcement that Sabayon has switched back go > ffmpeg. > > -- > SvantoViit > >

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-09-27 Thread Svantoviit
I would appreciate an announcement that Sabayon has switched back go ffmpeg. -- SvantoViit

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-05-07 Thread Svantoviit
"Our users" or "our user base" are very vague categories. Although it has been stated, that Sabayon is not a democracy, as one of the users I can say I am happy with libav ;) -- SvantoViit

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-05-07 Thread Sławomir Nizio
Silence here, so let me share the status: it's still undecided, and the discussion can continue when /some guy/ can fully participate (goes from semi-away which is due to technical problems).

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-05-01 Thread KJS
Thanks for clearing that up. So it appears that getting the support of upstream to work on packages would be a great amount causing user base to be "stuck". I wasn't aware that there was so many packages and our manpower is too low to impact upstream. I believe debian went back to ffmpeg a year

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-05-01 Thread Ben Roberts
11.9 is the latest patch release on the 11.x branch, 12.0 is also in portage but not marked stable. Neither provides the same versions of the component libraries as ffmpeg even as old as ffmpeg 3.0.x (bearing in mind ffmpeg is already u pto 3.3 branch, 3.0.x is already quite old). There may be

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-05-01 Thread KJS
Wasn't libav 11.9 released last month? On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Ben Roberts wrote: > Let's bear in mind the problem is not just that there are packages that > don't have direct support for libav. The problem is also partly that there > is not a libav release

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-05-01 Thread Ben Roberts
Let's bear in mind the problem is not just that there are packages that don't have direct support for libav. The problem is also partly that there is not a libav release that provides all the same component library versions that are available in ffmpeg; libav is definitively behind ffmpeg at the

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-05-01 Thread Jerrod Frost
Can we get a list of every application in portage that DOES NOT support libav and requires ffmpeg? I would volunteer to attempt filing bugs for each application requesting libav support. On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 9:31 AM KJS wrote: > I have to agree with Ettore > > On Mon, May

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-05-01 Thread KJS
I have to agree with Ettore On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Sławomir Nizio wrote: > > We are one of the few distributions (actually i'm not aware of others) > > that support libav out of the box, and i'm proud of it. What i would > > propose instead is trying to push

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-05-01 Thread Sławomir Nizio
> We are one of the few distributions (actually i'm not aware of others) > that support libav out of the box, and i'm proud of it. What i would > propose instead is trying to push upstream projects that misses libav > support and/or helping libav providing support to them. Volunteers? :) One of

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-04-28 Thread Jerrod Frost
Just a heads up, right now we're thinking of working to get libav working upstream. We are still in talks and it's not set in stone yet. On Fri, Apr 28, 2017, 2:13 PM Sławomir Nizio wrote: > Joost expressed on IRC he would be OK with the switch. > > Ettore - ? >

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-04-28 Thread Sławomir Nizio
> It would be awesome for the users to have the choice, actually. ,-) It could be useful only in limited number of cases I think, and neither Debian, Gentoo nor Arch do it, from what I can see. (Gentoo provides the choice, but they can't co-exist, and switching requires rebuilding many

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-04-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 01:02:20AM +0200, Joost Ruis wrote: >What matters to me is what works best for our users. It would be awesome for the users to have the choice, actually. ,-) -- Nicolas Sebrecht

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-04-26 Thread Sławomir Nizio
> The fact that https://gpo.zugaina.org/media-video/obs-studio has a hard > dep on ffmpeg could be because the Gentoo maintainer isn't aware of the > virtual package. I read it really does not compile with libav. > I'm not technically up to date, but if libav is indeed > breaking away with

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-04-26 Thread Sławomir Nizio
> As long as we're not updating ffmpeg every chance we get and wait for > ffmpeg releases to prove their stability etc, I think we may be fine. I believe only ffmpeg with the stable keyword would be used.

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-04-25 Thread Joost Ruis
What matters to me is what works best for our users. The fact that https://gpo.zugaina.org/media-video/obs-studio has a hard dep on ffmpeg could be because the Gentoo maintainer isn't aware of the virtual package. I'm not technically up to date, but if libav is indeed breaking away with ffmpeg

Re: [sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-04-25 Thread Jerrod Frost
Interesting. LibAV is supposedly cleaner, harder code, but much of libAV ends up in ffmpeg anyway from what I'm reading and ffmpeg has more support for most other applications etc. Their problem is ffmpeg tends to be more bloated and risky about adopting patches and code? As long as we're not

[sabayon-dev] idea: switching back to ffmpeg

2017-04-25 Thread Sławomir Nizio
Hello, The libav project has served Sabayon well, and the fact it appeared and has been actively developed might have made great impact on the world of audio/video libraries. However, this may be a good time to switch back to ffmpeg. There are references on IRC that it's wanted by users because