Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread Peter Kümmel
On 16.05.2012 20:31, qtnext wrote: > I am using Qt since 12 years or more... I have done a lot of work using > qwidget, qgraphiscview, > I have done some small apps with qml to display media : it works very well > ... just the animation are a a litlle bit > jerky and work not well on very sm

Re: [Development] Using Transifex for handling Qt localization?

2012-05-16 Thread Quim Gil
On 05/15/2012 01:54 AM, ext Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:31:34PM -0700, ext Quim Gil wrote: >> Dimitris Glezos from Transifex saw >> http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt-Localization . This is the page where we >> explain how to localize the strings contained in Qt releases into

Re: [Development] SIC: QAbstractPrintDialog & QAbstractPageSetupDialog

2012-05-16 Thread John Layt
On Wednesday 16 May 2012 10:14:27 Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 00.07.10, John Layt wrote: > > The QAbstractPritnDialog and QAbstractPageSetupDialog classes are > > completely unnecessary, are given as bad examples in the Qt API design > > standards, and were marked

Re: [Development] qtphonon's status.

2012-05-16 Thread Stephen Kelly
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 19:50:19 Thiago Macieira wrote: > [cross-posting to kde-multimedia] > > On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 18.55.52, Olivier Goffart wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Why do we mantain an outdated fork of phonon in qt5.git > > I am talking about the qtphonon repository. > > > >

Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread qtnext
I am using Qt since 12 years or more... I have done a lot of work using qwidget, qgraphiscview, I have done some small apps with qml to display media : it works very well ... just the animation are a a litlle bit jerky and work not well on very small computer ... But now that Qt5 is here :

Re: [Development] Help: Qt CS pre-scheduled sessions

2012-05-16 Thread Quim Gil
On 05/15/2012 07:53 PM, ext Girish Ramakrishnan wrote: > I would like to preschedule a session to discuss the state of Qt5 on > various embedded devices. I can drive this session. OK, you got it. On Day 1, after lunch break. http://qt-project.org/groups/qt-contributors-summit-2012/wiki/Program T

Re: [Development] qtphonon's status.

2012-05-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
[cross-posting to kde-multimedia] On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 18.55.52, Olivier Goffart wrote: > Hi, > > Why do we mantain an outdated fork of phonon in qt5.git > I am talking about the qtphonon repository. > > The Phonon team maintains phonon under the KDE umbrela, and the qtphonon > repo

Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 13.24.25, Atlant Schmidt wrote: > The FOSS developers HOPE that their interests are congruent > with those of the mere customers and at least in QT's world, > there's some evidence that this is true for some customers > but there is also mounting evidence

Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread Atlant Schmidt
Robin: Thank you for explaining, succinctly, one of the critical differences between commercial software and FOSS: Commercial software contains those features that the customers will pay for while FOSS only contains features that the developers are interested in developing (for their own

Re: [Development] qtphonon's status.

2012-05-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
[cross-posting to kde-multimedia] On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 18.55.52, Olivier Goffart wrote: > Hi, > > Why do we mantain an outdated fork of phonon in qt5.git > I am talking about the qtphonon repository. > > The Phonon team maintains phonon under the KDE umbrela, and the qtphonon > repo

Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 09.51.52, BRM wrote: > I agree that QML is certainly in that camp; though the ignoring of QWidget > is the issue. No one is ignoring QWidget. We know it's there and what it's being used for. No one here is under the illusion that QWidget isn't important. It is.

[Development] qtphonon's status.

2012-05-16 Thread Olivier Goffart
Hi, Why do we mantain an outdated fork of phonon in qt5.git I am talking about the qtphonon repository. The Phonon team maintains phonon under the KDE umbrela, and the qtphonon repository is years behind. Is there a point taking time to still update this repository to make it work with Qt5?

Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread BRM
> From: Thiago Macieira >On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 16.56.05, Robin Burchell wrote: >> That isn't how reality works. You cannot tell me (as a volunteer) what >> I ought to be spending my time on any more than I can tell you what >> color to paint your livingroom. My interests dictate wha

Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 16.56.05, Robin Burchell wrote: > That isn't how reality works. You cannot tell me (as a volunteer) what > I ought to be spending my time on any more than I can tell you what > color to paint your livingroom. My interests dictate what I invest my > time into, not

Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread Robin Burchell
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Atlant Schmidt wrote: >  Qt "the product" may be developed by a meritocracy of devel- >  opers but it damned-well better respond in a more-or-less >  democratic way to the needs/demands of the consumers of the >  product. If it doesn't, those consumers will move on

Re: [Development] Qt 5.0 beta and final timelines

2012-05-16 Thread techabc
When would alpha 2 happen? 2012/5/1 : > Hi everybody, > > While I think it's very important to get Qt 5.0 out of the door as soon as > possible, we should not release it without first getting it's quality to a > very high standard. > > I think it has become rather clear that the original timeline

Re: [Development] Help: Qt CS pre-scheduled sessions

2012-05-16 Thread Thiago Lacerda
Hi Girish, On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Girish Ramakrishnan wrote: > Hi Thiago and Thiago, > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Thiago Lacerda > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Thiago Macieira < > thiago.macie...@intel.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> On terça-feira, 15 de

Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread Atlant Schmidt
Samuel: > It's worth noting that the Qt project is designed to > be a meritocracy, not a democracy. What this ignores, though, is the fact that the *CONSUMERS* of the Qt product are not necessarily at all congruent with the *DEVELOPERS* of the Qt product. (While there's some cross-over, I

[Development] Fwd: Change in qt/qtbase[master]: Fix bug when destruction fields in QWizard

2012-05-16 Thread Carl Schumann
Could an approver please stage this change. Thanks. Original Message Subject: Change in qt/qtbase[master]: Fix bug when destruction fields in QWizard Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 12:57:00 +0200 From: Lars Knoll (Code Review) Reply-To: To: Carl Schumann CC: Qt San

Re: [Development] Help: Qt CS pre-scheduled sessions

2012-05-16 Thread Girish Ramakrishnan
Hi Thiago and Thiago, On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Thiago Lacerda wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Thiago Macieira > wrote: >> >> On terça-feira, 15 de maio de 2012 19.53.14, Girish Ramakrishnan wrote: >> > Can we also have a sessions for Qt Widgets and Qt components? I can

Re: [Development] RFC: Test Reports for source/binary packages

2012-05-16 Thread Marius Storm-Olsen
Any opinions on this? I fear the mail drowned in other mails on the list. -- .marius On May 1, 2012, at 3:33 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > Back in the days, when we were approaching a new release of Qt, we would use > a black team which would be responsible for driving the testing of a new > packa

Re: [Development] Source code path in the debug information

2012-05-16 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 16/05/2012 10:17, Thiago Macieira ha scritto: On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 02.49.31, song.7@nokia.com wrote: I am trying to copy libQtCore.so.5.0.0 to another different folder to debug with my application, but find that I can't step into the source code. After look into libQtCore,

Re: [Development] Help: Qt CS pre-scheduled sessions

2012-05-16 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Girish Ramakrishnan wrote: > > I would like to preschedule a session to discuss the state of Qt5 on > various embedded devices. I can drive this session. > I could help with write down meeting/session minutes - if you need someone to do so. The subject of cross to

Re: [Development] Help: Qt CS pre-scheduled sessions

2012-05-16 Thread Thiago Lacerda
Hi, On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On terça-feira, 15 de maio de 2012 19.53.14, Girish Ramakrishnan wrote: > > Can we also have a sessions for Qt Widgets and Qt components? I can > > drive the former but not the latter. > > Don't worry, for the latter we've got the INdT

Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
> It's worth noting that the Qt project is designed to be a meritocracy, > not a democracy. Most important: a do-cracy. Changes don't happen if everybody talks and nobody writes the code. -- Giuseppe D'Angelo ___ Development mailing list Development@qt

Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo
On 16 May 2012 01:31, André Pönitz wrote: > I trust the audience would be delighted if you gave some insight > into the calculation. For the argument's sake, let's say that the poll shows statistical relevance. That is, there's a huge interest in having a complete set of C++ bindings for QML (or

Re: [Development] Build issue with configure -developer-build for qtbase?

2012-05-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 09.32.59, Rohan McGovern wrote: > Thiago Macieira said: > > > I am guessing you all have transitioned to 64 bits for your build > > > system, etc. What is your policy statement on 32 bit systems? Try > > > not break them? They deserve to get broken? ??? Fo

Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread Samuel Rødal
On 05/16/2012 11:14 AM, ext André Somers wrote: > Op 16-5-2012 1:31, André Pönitz schreef: >> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 07:13:19AM -0700, BRM wrote: From: Donald Carr [...] This is out of a sample set of 110 people, which is infinitesimally small in comparison to the Qt user base. It

Re: [Development] The place of QML

2012-05-16 Thread André Somers
Op 16-5-2012 1:31, André Pönitz schreef: > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 07:13:19AM -0700, BRM wrote: >>> From: Donald Carr >>> [...] This is out of a sample set of 110 people, which is >>> infinitesimally small in comparison to the Qt user base. It would >>> be a stretch to call this a statistically si

Re: [Development] Cross build failed of unsupported/win32-g++-cross mkspecs

2012-05-16 Thread k blammo
On 16/05/2012 10:18, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 07.13.09, k blammo wrote: >> Seems to me the real bug here is: Why doesn't Qt pick up the bundled >> zlib when it is told to. > > I have a couple of pending changes fixing that. There seems to be a few bugs > here and

Re: [Development] Cross build failed of unsupported/win32-g++-cross mkspecs

2012-05-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 07.13.09, k blammo wrote: > Seems to me the real bug here is: Why doesn't Qt pick up the bundled > zlib when it is told to. I will try to reproduce but since I'm building > this on my grand-dads old pocket watch that will take a while. I have a couple of pending

Re: [Development] Source code path in the debug information

2012-05-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 02.49.31, song.7@nokia.com wrote: > I am trying to copy libQtCore.so.5.0.0 to another different folder to debug > with my application, but find that I can't step into the source code. > > After look into libQtCore, it seems that the path of source code is rel

Re: [Development] SIC: QAbstractPrintDialog & QAbstractPageSetupDialog

2012-05-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 16 de maio de 2012 00.07.10, John Layt wrote: > The QAbstractPritnDialog and QAbstractPageSetupDialog classes are > completely unnecessary, are given as bad examples in the Qt API design > standards, and were marked to be merged with QPrintDialog and > QPageSetupDialog in Qt5. Hi

Re: [Development] Help: Qt CS pre-scheduled sessions

2012-05-16 Thread Thiago Macieira
On terça-feira, 15 de maio de 2012 19.53.14, Girish Ramakrishnan wrote: > Can we also have a sessions for Qt Widgets and Qt components? I can > drive the former but not the latter. Don't worry, for the latter we've got the INdT guys coming who have stuff to present on that area. And we can press J