Re: [Development] Renamed: Running a service for Qt community

On 21/5/21 1:16 AM, Jason H wrote: I'd like to see Qt take on the web, the pieces are there, with WebAssembly and QHttpServer. The web meanwhile has gotten more Qt-like with webpack and other compilation-step tools. I think this would really embiggen the Qt community +2! Qt Everywhere!

Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC

Den fre 21 maj 2021 kl 20:25 skrev Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development : > > On 21/05/2021 20:03, Tuukka Turunen wrote: > > > > Before simply voting for new irc provider, I would still prefer to have > > the QtCS discussion on the topic. > > > > We should also discuss and define what is the

Re: [Development] Renamed (again): Qt licensing shenanigans (again)

The sad part in all this.. the amount of negative discussion about Qt, when TQtC could fix this easily, simply maintain LTS at the opensource license. If they want patch releases in general not to be open source fixes, fine. Ie 6.1 is opensource, 6.1.1 is not.. But when a LTS is released,

Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC

On 21/05/2021 20:03, Tuukka Turunen wrote: Before simply voting for new irc provider, I would still prefer to have the QtCS discussion on the topic. We should also discuss and define what is the intention / intentions of the channels, because this can affect the choice. I am NOT proposing

Re: [Development] Renamed (again): Qt licensing shenanigans (again)

> > I agree with Jason: Doing the "no LTS for FOSS" at the moment of the > 5.15->6.0 change was really a foul play, imho. I'm currently attributing it to a license decision that for any other release (say if there was a 5.16) would be fine, but in reality was temporally coupled to the release of

Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC

Hi, Before simply voting for new irc provider, I would still prefer to have the QtCS discussion on the topic. We should also discuss and define what is the intention / intentions of the channels, because this can affect the choice. If it is for contributors to discuss with each other and

Re: [Development] Renamed (again): Qt licensing shenanigans (again)

Every conversation ends up in what is already the C++ subject of the year :D I've been vocally critical of what has happened, same as everybody else, even though I'm a mere passive observer, for now... But lemme say some things: I agree with Jason: Doing the "no LTS for FOSS" at the moment

Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC

On 21/05/2021 16:26, Aleix Pol wrote: I'd say embracing matrix can only be a positive iteration for the Qt project. I've personally been in #qt-labs for about a year through our matrix servers and it has served its purpose. You are welcome to join KDE's matrix server and give it a go. If Qt

Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC

On 21/05/2021 14:40, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote: @Giuseppe regarding the consensus, should we do a thread for voting the movement to libera only? or you think we could agree differently of doing the move. Yes, I'm afraid that I screwed this one up, apologies :( I'll guess I'll start a new

Re: [Development] Renamed: Running a service for Qt community

> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 at 8:57 AM > From: "Kai Köhne" > To: "Benjamin TERRIER" , "development@qt-project.org" > > Subject: Re: [Development] Renamed: Running a service for Qt community > > > From: Development On Behalf Of > > Benjamin TERRIER > > Subject: Re: [Development] Renamed:

Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC

> >> I would like to get back to doing more of our development discussions out > >> in the open > >> (like it should be), but right now IRC is not something I want to go back > >> to for > >> that. > > > > I also think that having development related discussions in internal Teams > > channels

Re: [Development] Avoiding ads and/or Google for doc searches (was: Changes to Freenode's IRC)

On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 01:40, Kai Köhne mailto:kai.koe...@qt.io]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Development > > mailto:development-boun...@qt-project.org]> > > On Behalf Of Jason H > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:26 > > To:

Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 8:46 PM Carl Schwan wrote: > > Le jeudi, mai 20, 2021 2:18 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development > a écrit : > > > Hi, > > > > On 20/05/2021 13:47, Alejandro Exojo wrote: > > > > > On Wed, May 19, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development wrote: > > > > > > > -

Re: [Development] Renamed: Running a service for Qt community

On 5/21/21 2:49 PM, Benjamin TERRIER wrote: Please don't cut half of what I said to make me say something I did not say. I did not do that at all. I merely quoted what I wanted to answer. You said  that during Trolltech times that Qt Windows was commercial only and the open source part was

Re: [Development] Renamed: Running a service for Qt community

> From: Development On Behalf Of Benjamin > TERRIER > Subject: Re: [Development] Renamed: Running a service for Qt community > > On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 17:18, Jason H wrote: > >> Anyway, these issues aren't insurmountable, apparently they can be changed >> with the

Re: [Development] Renamed: Running a service for Qt community

On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 14:32, Joerg Bornemann wrote: > On 5/21/21 12:41 PM, Benjamin TERRIER wrote: > > > And now: > > - all new modules and supported platforms are Commercial/GPLv3 only. > > Which is very different from commercial-only. > Please don't cut half of what I said to make me say

Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC

On 5/20/21 8:46 PM, Carl Schwan wrote: Le jeudi, mai 20, 2021 2:18 PM, Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development a écrit : [snip] Lacking some formal voting infrastructure, how do we take this vote? I'd say, KISS: please reply to this email and express your preference. I believe the

Re: [Development] Renamed: Running a service for Qt community

On 5/21/21 12:41 PM, Benjamin TERRIER wrote: And now: - all new modules and supported platforms are Commercial/GPLv3 only. Which is very different from commercial-only. Can we conclude that contributions from outside the company are going to be nearly non-existent? Based on the facts? No.

[Development] Avoiding ads and/or Google for doc searches (was: Changes to Freenode's IRC)

On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 01:40, Kai Köhne wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Development On Behalf Of Jason H > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:26 > > To: giuseppe.dang...@kdab.com > > Cc: development@qt-project.org > > Subject: Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC > > > >

Re: [Development] Renamed: Running a service for Qt community

On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 17:18, Jason H wrote: > > Anyway, these issues aren't insurmountable, apparently they can be changed > with the stroke of a pen. (Where is Qt's Open Governance? - still think I > misunderstood what that was about) Since TQC alone can decide that the Qt Project won't

Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC

Am 20.05.21 um 20:57 schrieb André Pönitz: On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:59:31AM +, Andy Nichols wrote: The chat channels are fragmented these days. There’s the Qt discord channels, QtMob on Slack, Qt and Advanced C++ on Telegram. Are any of these channels endorsed by the Qt project? The

Re: [Development] Renamed: Running a service for Qt community

On 5/20/21 5:16 PM, Jason H wrote: *if you wonder why I keep calling them Digia and not the Qt Company, it is because the actions of late don't really feel like Qt of old (Nokia, TrollTech) would have treated opens source users that way. Looking at the management:

Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC

> On May 20, 2021, at 20:57, André Pönitz wrote: > > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:59:31AM +, Andy Nichols wrote: The chat channels are fragmented these days. There’s the Qt discord channels, QtMob on Slack, Qt and Advanced C++ on Telegram. >> >>> Are any of these channels

Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC

On Thu, May 20, 2021, 21:03 André Pönitz wrote: > Works as designed. Freenode never endorsed public logging. > > Chat is for ephemeral contents, like normal speech. > I always chat as it it was logged, even in IRC: It is easy to log, so people are logging. There may not be "official" logs, but