[e-smith-devinfo] Request for Comments

2001-08-17 Thread Justin Funke
Two questions? I am trying to tighten up my buggy web applications on e-smith. (various flavours of Php-Nuke, different scripts and add-ons etc.) Question 1 - I am unable to change the permissions to user nobody without breaking some of the functionality. I have elected to go with user www for

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Request for Comments

2001-08-17 Thread Charlie Brady
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Justin Funke wrote: Question 1 - I am unable to change the permissions to user nobody without breaking some of the functionality. I have elected to go with user www for all these potential security risks and the shared group. Any comments? You don't say what

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Request for Comments

2001-08-17 Thread Darrell May
Justin Funke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Question 1 - I am unable to change the permissions to user nobody without breaking some of the functionality. I have elected to go with user www for all these potential security risks and the shared group. Any comments? Really need more info on what

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Request for Comments

2001-08-17 Thread Justin Funke
Question 1 - I am unable to change the permissions to user nobody without breaking some of the functionality. I have elected to go with user www for all these potential security risks and the shared group. Any comments? You don't say what permissions you want to change, so it's

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Request for Comments

2001-08-17 Thread Charlie Brady
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Justin Funke wrote: However, user www is probably the worst choice you could make, Nevermind, they started all at root/root - make that second worst. Actually, that might be the best, rather than second worst,, because that means it is least likely to be modified

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Request for Comments

2001-08-17 Thread Justin Funke
Really need more info on what security risks your opening. My own personal experience is sometimes security is counterproductive. Darryl you working for Microsoft now? ;) If it is a production 'need' and the risk is acknowledged, signed off on and understood, implementing less

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Request for Comments

2001-08-17 Thread Darrell May
Justin Funke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't need 100% lockdown but running everying as a root is not an option I wish to entertain. Yes, running any web server as root is simply irresponsible. E-smith's way of www:www is a good implementation and you can either sudo specific commands to

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Request for Comments

2001-08-17 Thread Justin Funke
Actually, that might be the best, rather than second worst,, because that means it is least likely to be modified by a process controlled by an attacker. Or at least, if that happens, your php app is not the worst of your problems. Ah yes - another good point. I was thinking of the php

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Request for Comments

2001-08-17 Thread Jelmer
i'd go with redbull vodka :p - Original Message - From: Justin Funke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:04 PM Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Request for Comments Two questions? I am trying to tighten up my buggy web applications on e-smith