[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-25 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 02:21:53AM -0800, palomitas at hushmail.com wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:07 -0800 Ian Clarke wrote: > > >> Anyway I'd like that only audio/video streaming content does > >> hara-kiri and not the "normal freesites content". But I think > >> there would be no secure

Re: [freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-25 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 02:21:53AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:07 -0800 Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway I'd like that only audio/video streaming content does hara-kiri and not the normal freesites content. But I think there would be no secure way to

[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-21 Thread palomi...@hushmail.com
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:07 -0800 Ian Clarke wrote: >> Anyway I'd like that only audio/video streaming content does >> hara-kiri and not the "normal freesites content". But I think >> there would be no secure way to distinguish them. > > There is no need to "distinguish" them, it will be an

Re: [freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-21 Thread palomitas
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:07 -0800 Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway I'd like that only audio/video streaming content does hara-kiri and not the normal freesites content. But I think there would be no secure way to distinguish them. There is no need to distinguish them, it will be an

[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 03:25:06PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > We should consider support for content which deletes itself at a preset > time. This would be useful for several reasons: > > Much of the content in Freenet is only useful for a limited amount of > time (eg. DBR freesites) - it

[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread scgmi...@freenetproject.org
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:07:00AM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > > Anyway I'd like that only audio/video streaming content does > > hara-kiri and not the "normal freesites content". But I think > > there would be no secure way to distinguish them. > > There is no need to "distinguish" them, it will

[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread Ian Clarke
> > Are we comforable letting an author self-censor after a period of time? > Imagine a situation where its beneficial for him to claim something for > 24 hours but then very thoroughly destroy that evidence later. I am perfectly comfortable with that - I think that "self-censorship" in

[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread t...@hardboot.org
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:25:06 -0800 Ian Clarke wrote: > If we ever get Freenet radio, then live Freenet streams will > definitely want to delete old blocks to conserve space. It just occurred to me that this problem is similar to (in limited ways) to that of sending different types of data over

[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread t...@hardboot.org
Did you know that Pooky's Page is still available? http://localhost:/SSK at 1qgxozQT1c%7EI4zk1WVCWQG4wC%7EgPAgM/pooky// I kind of like the idea that information in Freenet is immune to censorship even by the informer. I like that a person has to think carefully about what they're about to

[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread Ian Clarke
> Anyway I'd like that only audio/video streaming content does > hara-kiri and not the "normal freesites content". But I think > there would be no secure way to distinguish them. There is no need to "distinguish" them, it will be an entirely voluntary decision by the content author as to whether

[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread palomi...@hushmail.com
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:25:06 -0800 Ian Clarke wrote: > If we ever get Freenet radio, then live Freenet streams will > definitely want to delete old blocks to conserve space. That's just what I was trying to ask earlier ... My thoughts: The author might choose from specifying the kamikaze-time

[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread Mark J Roberts
Tracy R Reed: > Why bother? I thought unrequested stuff would fall out of freenet anyway? > All of the stuff you mentioned will either be deleted when something > more popular comes along or is actively being requested so it should stay > anyhow. It's not hurting anything taking up some space

Re: [freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread Mark J Roberts
Tracy R Reed: Why bother? I thought unrequested stuff would fall out of freenet anyway? All of the stuff you mentioned will either be deleted when something more popular comes along or is actively being requested so it should stay anyhow. It's not hurting anything taking up some space while it

Re: [freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread palomitas
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:25:06 -0800 Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we ever get Freenet radio, then live Freenet streams will definitely want to delete old blocks to conserve space. That's just what I was trying to ask earlier ... My thoughts: The author might choose from specifying

Re: [freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread Ian Clarke
Anyway I'd like that only audio/video streaming content does hara-kiri and not the normal freesites content. But I think there would be no secure way to distinguish them. There is no need to distinguish them, it will be an entirely voluntary decision by the content author as to whether to

Re: [freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread todd
Did you know that Pooky's Page is still available? http://localhost:/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pooky// I kind of like the idea that information in Freenet is immune to censorship even by the informer. I like that a person has to think carefully about what they're about to say, before they say it.

Re: [freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 03:25:06PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: We should consider support for content which deletes itself at a preset time. This would be useful for several reasons: Much of the content in Freenet is only useful for a limited amount of time (eg. DBR freesites) - it would be

Re: [freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread todd
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:25:06 -0800 Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we ever get Freenet radio, then live Freenet streams will definitely want to delete old blocks to conserve space. It just occurred to me that this problem is similar to (in limited ways) to that of sending different

Re: [freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread scgmille
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:07:00AM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: Anyway I'd like that only audio/video streaming content does hara-kiri and not the normal freesites content. But I think there would be no secure way to distinguish them. There is no need to distinguish them, it will be an

Re: [freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-17 Thread Ian Clarke
devils advocate/ Are we comforable letting an author self-censor after a period of time? Imagine a situation where its beneficial for him to claim something for 24 hours but then very thoroughly destroy that evidence later. I am perfectly comfortable with that - I think that

[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-16 Thread Tracy R Reed
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 03:25:06PM -0800, Ian Clarke spake thusly: > We should consider support for content which deletes itself at a preset > time. This would be useful for several reasons: Why bother? I thought unrequested stuff would fall out of freenet anyway? All of the stuff you mentioned

[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-16 Thread Ian Clarke
We should consider support for content which deletes itself at a preset time. This would be useful for several reasons: Much of the content in Freenet is only useful for a limited amount of time (eg. DBR freesites) - it would be nice if old content didn't stay around cluttering things up if

[freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-16 Thread Ian Clarke
We should consider support for content which deletes itself at a preset time. This would be useful for several reasons: Much of the content in Freenet is only useful for a limited amount of time (eg. DBR freesites) - it would be nice if old content didn't stay around cluttering things up if

Re: [freenet-dev] Kamikaze Content

2003-03-16 Thread Tracy R Reed
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 03:25:06PM -0800, Ian Clarke spake thusly: We should consider support for content which deletes itself at a preset time. This would be useful for several reasons: Why bother? I thought unrequested stuff would fall out of freenet anyway? All of the stuff you mentioned