On 14/12/2011 10:12, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/12/11 7:46 PM, Stewart Gordon wrote:
On 06/12/2011 05:44, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
http://d-p-l.org
Andrei
Why does it have an HTML 4.01 doctype but then go on to use XHTML syntax???
Stewart.
I wouldn't know. What needs to be done?
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 13:33:06 UTC, Stewart Gordon wrote:
But whatever I try to validate it as, there are errors.
Does validation make any positive difference at all?
I used to do it, but it prohibits things that are useful
and work fine in practice* without offering much, if
On Wednesday, 14 December 2011 at 07:05:25 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
Highlights are use of XMM floating point registers in 64 bit
targets, and now supporting OS X 64 as a target.
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/changelog.html
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.057.zip
A lot of people put a ton
On Friday, December 16, 2011 16:26:11 Christian Manning wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 December 2011 at 07:05:25 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
Highlights are use of XMM floating point registers in 64 bit
targets, and now supporting OS X 64 as a target.
On 12/16/2011 5:33 AM, Stewart Gordon wrote:
Or that you
found it on a lot of webpages and just copied it without any clue of what it
means?
You can blame me for that, not Andrei.
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On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 13:33:06 UTC, Stewart Gordon wrote:
But whatever I try to validate it as, there are errors.
Does validation make any positive difference at
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 18:28:07 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
I've started going back to b and i. Why?
I find this generally sane, but I can't agree with D. (lol)
And seriously, who's going to be applying a custom stylesheet
to my pages?
My work D project recently brought on a new
On Saturday, 10 December 2011 at 23:05:11 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
Highlights are use of XMM floating point registers in 64 bit
targets, and now supporting OS X 64 as a target.
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/changelog.html
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.1.072.zip
The D2 version will follow
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The important thing though is to make sure the html describes
the data well. Once you put in any kind of presentation in there,
you break this approach.
class=red no no,
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 16:43:29 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2011 16:26:11 Christian Manning wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 December 2011 at 07:05:25 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
Highlights are use of XMM floating point registers in 64 bit
targets, and now supporting OS
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 21:19:27 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
A. While CSS is acceptable for styling (though I would change
some things), it's pure shit for layouts.
I wouldn't say that, completely. I do use a html template,
but only for the outer layouts; it's a frame of sorts that
I
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So iis cool/i, but body color= is probably bad.
Yea, I totally agree.
C. You may be operating with a workflow where the web designer is
CSS-only, but that's not always
On Friday, December 16, 2011 22:37:50 Christian Manning wrote:
How about this as a better test case?
ubyte[4] a;
auto x() {
return a;
}
void main() {
auto b = x()[1..$];
}
That actually has exactly the same problem. You're slicing a temporary. You
can't slice a static array unless
On 16/12/2011 18:26, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
snip
For example, I have an articles section on my site that (currently) uses
TangoCMS. I neither know nor care what doctype TangoCMS is sending out (and
I have even less interest in mucking with it's internals to change it), and
yet when I want to
On 16/12/2011 15:09, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 13:33:06 UTC, Stewart Gordon wrote:
But whatever I try to validate it as, there are errors.
Does validation make any positive difference at all?
Yes:
- it's a useful step in diagnosing problems with a webpage
- it
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 22:25:27 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
*snip*
I agree pretty much entirely, but meh, when web 2.0 gives
you a turd, you make a shit sandwich and you LIKE it!
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 22:48:21 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
That actually has exactly the same problem. You're slicing a
temporary. You can't slice a static array unless it's an actual
variable, or you're going to have problems. b points to a slice
of a static array which doesn't
On 12/15/2011 2:25 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/15/2011 4:16 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
I wonder if we can list breaking changes in a separate sections in the
changelog.
Any bug fix is a breaking change - code can and does depend on bugs
(often inadvertently).
I've never seen code depend
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On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 22:25:27 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
*snip*
I agree pretty much entirely, but meh, when web 2.0 gives
you a turd, you make a shit sandwich and
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On 16/12/2011 18:26, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
snip
For example, I have an articles section on my site that (currently) uses
TangoCMS. I neither know nor care what doctype TangoCMS is sending out
(and
On 12/15/2011 11:04 PM, Gour wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:42:26 -0800
Walter Brightnewshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
Right. And we make D2 work or we fail completely.
Please, make it work!
I have every intention to!
On 12/16/2011 12:48 AM, bearophile wrote:
In some cases I use a global variable only from a small small number of
functions, like foo() and main() here:
import std.stdio;
__gshared static int x = 10;
void foo() {
// uses x
writeln(foo);
}
void main() {
auto fptr =foo;
On 12/16/11 1:12 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Simply making it so that std.file is only imported in std.stdio with
version(unittest) cut off _that_ much?
Yah, but the matter is more complex. The issue is that std.file pulls
std.datetime, which (a) has static this() code, and (b) pulls
Pattern of uselessness exhibited by many projects. I am afraid that
Walt feels responsible for this fiasco. D is nothing. and not your fault.
No one in these groups would fault you for trying and failing. D is not
your worth. Trying is of value, but other things count more. Maybe they
don't.
I worry about all the crazies like him. you shut this thing down, and let
him live and stop being the virus you are.
On 16.12.2011 00:35, Mehrdad wrote:
On 12/15/2011 3:20 PM, Trass3r wrote:
dealbreaker - i'd love to use D for my scientific programming, but my
datasets often reach several GB...
my computer has 16GB and i intend to make use of them.
Scientific programming on Windoze? You can't be
Andrei Alexandrescu:
Right now an executable starts at around 218KB, which includes druntime
(gc, type info, the works). Importing std.stdio and using writeln() only
adds a couple of KBs.
Now using ulink the hello world exe becomes 129_564 bytes.
Bye,
bearophile
On 2011-12-16 10:10, torhu wrote:
On 16.12.2011 00:35, Mehrdad wrote:
On 12/15/2011 3:20 PM, Trass3r wrote:
dealbreaker - i'd love to use D for my scientific programming, but my
datasets often reach several GB...
my computer has 16GB and i intend to make use of them.
Scientific programming
On 12/16/2011 1:17 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-12-16 10:10, torhu wrote:
People coming from Linux are accustomed to a running only 64-bit
programs if they have a 64-bit OS. That's simply because Linux is
usually distributed through downloading. To limit the download size,
they leave out
On 12/14/2011 11:41 AM, Adam Wilson wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I want to start this conversation by pointing out that I come from a C/C++/C#
background and my ideas and frustrations in this post will be colored by that
history.
When I first approached D, the idea of an 'export' confused me. I've
Please make sure that you remove trailing whitespace from the file. A lot of
the lines have trailing whitespace. Also, make sure that you don't have any
tabs in the file. There are a few places where you used tabs.
Line# 916 claims that the code there won't work and that it needs to be fixed,
On 2011-12-16 10:24, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/16/2011 1:17 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-12-16 10:10, torhu wrote:
People coming from Linux are accustomed to a running only 64-bit
programs if they have a 64-bit OS. That's simply because Linux is
usually distributed through downloading.
On Friday, December 16, 2011 02:38:09 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/16/11 1:12 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Simply making it so that std.file is only imported in std.stdio with
version(unittest) cut off _that_ much?
Yah, but the matter is more complex. The issue is that std.file pulls
On 2011-12-16 10:34, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/14/2011 11:41 AM, Adam Wilson wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I want to start this conversation by pointing out that I come from a
C/C++/C#
background and my ideas and frustrations in this post will be colored
by that
history.
When I first approached D,
On Friday, December 16, 2011 10:10:57 torhu wrote:
On 16.12.2011 00:35, Mehrdad wrote:
On 12/15/2011 3:20 PM, Trass3r wrote:
dealbreaker - i'd love to use D for my scientific programming, but
my
datasets often reach several GB...
my computer has 16GB and i intend to make use of
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 09:56:47 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
considering that there are no x86 chips sold these days which
aren't x86_64, I find it rather baffling that Microsoft even
sells a 32-bit version of Windows.
This is simply not true. I don't know about processors sold
On 16.12.2011 10:17, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2011-12-16 10:10, torhu wrote:
On 16.12.2011 00:35, Mehrdad wrote:
On 12/15/2011 3:20 PM, Trass3r wrote:
dealbreaker - i'd love to use D for my scientific programming, but my
datasets often reach several GB...
my computer has 16GB and i
On Friday, December 16, 2011 11:09:25 Jakob Ovrum wrote:
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 09:56:47 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
considering that there are no x86 chips sold these days which
aren't x86_64, I find it rather baffling that Microsoft even
sells a 32-bit version of Windows.
Some intel atoms still use 32-bit architecture.
Il giorno ven, 16/12/2011 alle 02.48 -0800, Jonathan M Davis ha scritto:
On Friday, December 16, 2011 11:09:25 Jakob Ovrum wrote:
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 09:56:47 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
considering that there are no x86
Jakob Ovrum Wrote:
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 09:56:47 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
considering that there are no x86 chips sold these days which
aren't x86_64, I find it rather baffling that Microsoft even
sells a 32-bit version of Windows.
This is simply not true. I don't know
There are the videos of the 2011 LLVM Developer Meeting:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL970A5BD02C11F80C
Slides too:
http://llvm.org/devmtg/2011-11/
As usual the LLVM talks are quite interesting. I have started to see the
videos/slides, it will require some time.
An interesting talk,
On 16.12.2011 08:41, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
I know that this might be too late but wouldn't it be possible to defer
the error message about typedef to later in the compile phase. Making it
possible to put a typedef in a version statement, something like:
version (D_Version2) {}
else {
typedef
Second interesting thing I've found from the 2011 LLVM Developer Meeting:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL970A5BD02C11F80C
Slides:
http://llvm.org/devmtg/2011-11/
In the Integrating LLVM into FreeBSD talk I have seen a reference to TESLA
(the talk itself is not interesting). It's not so
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 12:14:50 UTC, a wrote:
Jakob Ovrum Wrote:
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 09:56:47 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
considering that there are no x86 chips sold these days
which aren't x86_64, I find it rather baffling that
Microsoft even sells a 32-bit version
Don:
Why not just change your D1 code to use alias instead of typedef?
Walter introduced typedef in D1 for a purpose: it introduces stronger static
typing. So if in future you will want to modify/refactor your D1 code, typedefs
will help you avoid introducing some bugs. If you replace them
Il giorno ven, 16/12/2011 alle 07.14 -0500, a ha scritto:
Jakob Ovrum Wrote:
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 09:56:47 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
considering that there are no x86 chips sold these days which
aren't x86_64, I find it rather baffling that Microsoft even
sells a
On 2011-12-16 13:31, Don wrote:
On 16.12.2011 08:41, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
I know that this might be too late but wouldn't it be possible to defer
the error message about typedef to later in the compile phase. Making it
possible to put a typedef in a version statement, something like:
version
Why not just change your D1 code to use alias instead of typedef?
Walter introduced typedef in D1 for a purpose: it introduces stronger
static typing. So if in future you will want to modify/refactor your D1
code, typedefs will help you avoid introducing some bugs. If you replace
them
Am 16.12.2011, 10:15 Uhr, schrieb bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
Right now an executable starts at around 218KB, which includes druntime
(gc, type info, the works). Importing std.stdio and using writeln() only
adds a couple of KBs.
Now using ulink the hello world
Am 16.12.2011, 14:52 Uhr, schrieb Trass3r u...@known.com:
Am 16.12.2011, 10:15 Uhr, schrieb bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com:
Andrei Alexandrescu:
Right now an executable starts at around 218KB, which includes druntime
(gc, type info, the works). Importing std.stdio and using writeln()
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 09:50:30 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
Well, both std.datetime and core.time need static this() and
can't not have it.
Why are they necessary? It looks like it sets the time zone...
wouldn't it work to put that into DateTime's regular constructor?
Some code using std.algorithm.filter broke today when I updated dmd.
Here's a test case:
-
import std.stdio, std.algorithm;
void main() {
writeln(filter!a != 'r'(Merry Christmas!));
}
What I have in mind is if the timezone was something along
the lines of a singleton property, so it still works
the same way, except it is lazy loaded on first use.
(if this is indeed the right static constructor!)
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 12:23:25 UTC, bearophile wrote:
This code doesn't compile with DMD:
if (x = y) {}
But this gives no errors:
if (x |= y) {}
Do you know why DMD forbids assignments as conditions, but it
accepts compound assignments there? It looks like a
incongruence that's
On 16-12-2011 13:23, bearophile wrote:
There are the videos of the 2011 LLVM Developer Meeting:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL970A5BD02C11F80C
Slides too:
http://llvm.org/devmtg/2011-11/
As usual the LLVM talks are quite interesting. I have started to see the
videos/slides, it will
Adam D. Ruppe:
But I've never myself, nor seen anybody else, actually
write += or |= when they meant == or !=. The keys aren't
even close (on en-US anyway) so it's not a likely typo, and
the concepts are nothing alike so a brain or language mixup
isn't likely to cause it.
If you write
I've always built my libs like that:
cd druntime
git pull -v
make MODEL=64 -f posix.mak -j2
make MODEL=32 -f posix.mak -j2
cd ../phobos
git pull -v
make MODEL=64 -f posix.mak -j2 mv
generated/linux/release/64/libphobos2.a ../../linux/lib64
make MODEL=32 -f posix.mak -j2 mv
On Thursday, 15 December 2011 at 20:42:26 UTC, Jacob Carlborg
wrote:
On 2011-12-15 20:41, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/15/2011 9:49 AM, Robert Clipsham wrote:
* Do it all in one go, and DO NOT GET DISTRACTED. The moment
you start
trying to
clean up code as well as finish porting it you
On 16-12-2011 16:48, Trass3r wrote:
I've always built my libs like that:
cd druntime
git pull -v
make MODEL=64 -f posix.mak -j2
make MODEL=32 -f posix.mak -j2
cd ../phobos
git pull -v
make MODEL=64 -f posix.mak -j2 mv
generated/linux/release/64/libphobos2.a ../../linux/lib64
make MODEL=32 -f
On Friday, December 16, 2011 16:16:53 Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
What I have in mind is if the timezone was something along
the lines of a singleton property, so it still works
the same way, except it is lazy loaded on first use.
(if this is indeed the right static constructor!)
That would break
Also why does druntime come with .di headers but phobos does not? OTOH
I doubt it would save much on compilation time since virtually
everything in phobos is a template..
On Friday, December 16, 2011 17:41:13 Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
Also why does druntime come with .di headers but phobos does not? OTOH
I doubt it would save much on compilation time since virtually
everything in phobos is a template..
It would also kill CTFE for stuff that isn't a template. I'd
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 16:35:27 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
That would break purity, so no that doesn't work. The
singletons are pure.
I'm tempted to say just cast it away, since you aren't actually
breaking purity in any meaningful way; the return value is always
the same and it
wut?
Sounds like most of the apps I actually use wouldn't qualify for the app store.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 15, 2011, at 11:26 PM, Jacob Carlborg d...@me.com wrote:
On 2011-12-15 21:53, Sean Kelly wrote:
On Dec 15, 2011, at 4:47 AM, Michel Fortin wrote:
On 2011-12-15 11:33:15 +, Ruslan
Am 16.12.2011, 04:40 Uhr, schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/commit/b7f42ec925fb1d64564d48ea419e201bfc65ed53
Yeah one could also use the new (function-)local imports.
However, this also shows another problem common to C
Trass3r:
Now using ulink the hello world exe becomes 129_564 bytes.
What is its secret?
Linkers use grey magic, as you know.
And it doesn't use compression.
Bye,
bearophile
On 12/16/11, Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.com wrote:
It would also kill CTFE for stuff that isn't a template.
I never thought of that.. interesting, so if you want to hide your
sources your users won't be able to use CTFE. (I don't mind that, idc
about any closed-source D /libraries/).
On 12/16/11 3:49 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2011 02:38:09 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/16/11 1:12 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Simply making it so that std.file is only imported in std.stdio with
version(unittest) cut off _that_ much?
Yah, but the matter is more
On 12/16/2011 06:50 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
D2 intends to define the order of evaluation of function arguments as
strictly left-to-right. There are some problems implementing this, but
that's where we want to go with it.
What would be a case where this currently does not hold?
On 12/16/2011 4:23 AM, bearophile wrote:
This code doesn't compile with DMD:
Error: assignment cannot be used as a condition, perhaps == was meant?
void main() {
int x, y;
if (x = y) {}
}
But this gives no errors:
void main() {
int x, y;
if (x |= y) {}
if (x += y) {}
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And considering that there are no x86 chips sold these days which aren't
x86_64, I find it rather baffling that Microsoft even sells a 32-bit
version of
Windows.
(Chips
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And considering that there are no x86 chips sold these days which aren't
x86_64, I find it
On 12/16/2011 9:59 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Also, the 64-bit versions can't run 16-bit software, and yes, I know that's
getting *really*, *really* old, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are
people out there (companies, especially) that are still relying on something
16-bit. (In case
On Friday, 16 December 2011 at 18:01:21 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
No, I'm not personally using Windows's 16-bit compatability for
anything.)
One of the reasons I like Digital Mars is the compiler still
targets 16 bit. (That was hugely important as a newb, and I don't
use it much anymore, but
Walter:
Given the frequence of bugs caused by the ?: operator, I think something
like this will be good to have in D too.
I haven't seen the bug every time with this.
Surely it's not a bug every time (but maybe was often enough a bug in the
Chromium project, that is several millions
On Friday, December 16, 2011 18:45:01 Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On 12/16/11, Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.com wrote:
It would also kill CTFE for stuff that isn't a template.
I never thought of that.. interesting, so if you want to hide your
sources your users won't be able to use CTFE. (I
Hello,
Late last night Walter and I figured a few interesting tidbits of
information. Allow me to give some context, discuss them, and sketch a
few approaches for improving things.
A while ago Walter wanted to enable function-level linking, i.e. only
get the needed functions from a given
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On 12/16/2011 9:59 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Also, the 64-bit versions can't run 16-bit software, and yes, I know
that's
getting *really*, *really* old, but I wouldn't be surprised if there
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:47:54 -0500, torhu no@spam.invalid wrote:
On 14.12.2011 12:54, dmd.20.browse...@xoxy.net wrote:
Hi,
Is there a 64-bit version of DMD for windows?
The download page offers only an x86 version. Or am I reading too much
into that?
Cheers, buk
There's not much you
On Friday, December 16, 2011 11:45:42 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/16/11 3:49 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2011 02:38:09 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/16/11 1:12 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Simply making it so that std.file is only imported in std.stdio with
On 12/16/2011 9:52 AM, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 12/16/2011 06:50 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
D2 intends to define the order of evaluation of function arguments as
strictly left-to-right. There are some problems implementing this, but
that's where we want to go with it.
What would be a case where
On 12/16/2011 10:16 AM, bearophile wrote:
There is also the problem of code like this, that will require one or more
solutions for D2. Defining or refusing or this kind of code are the
possibilities (or both of such solutions, in different situations):
x = x++;
Define order of evaluation as
On 12/16/2011 10:43 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
x = x++;
Define order of evaluation as rvalue, then lvalue.
Which, I might add, is a tractable problem. Trying to nail down every case of
OOE dependencies is flat out impossible.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 02:33, Martin Nowak d...@dawgfoto.de wrote:
Actually 'git svn clone svn://foo' is much simpler than having
to remember those svn command I forgot two years ago.
Hey, good to know, thanks!
Still, I'll clone your git repository, just for the fun of using
github
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being on a 32-bit OS from 2001
https://www.semitwist.com/articles/article/view/why-use-a-10-year-old-os-!
On 16-12-2011 19:27, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2011 18:45:01 Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On 12/16/11, Jonathan M Davisjmdavisp...@gmx.com wrote:
It would also kill CTFE for stuff that isn't a template.
I never thought of that.. interesting, so if you want to hide your
On 12/16/2011 07:45 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 12/16/2011 10:43 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
x = x++;
Define order of evaluation as rvalue, then lvalue.
Which, I might add, is a tractable problem. Trying to nail down every
case of OOE dependencies is flat out impossible.
How can that work
On Dec 16, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2011 17:41:13 Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
Also why does druntime come with .di headers but phobos does not? OTOH
I doubt it would save much on compilation time since virtually
everything in phobos is a template..
It
On Dec 15, 2011, at 7:40 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/10/11 9:39 AM, Bane wrote:
Short term and long term suggestions ? Anything we can do ? I heard it
is some problem with linking dead code?
import std.stdio;
int main(){
writefln(Hello Bloat!);
return 0;
}
dmd -release
On 12/16/11 12:40 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2011 11:45:42 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I am pretty sure they don't need static this(). Only last night I
removed static this() from core.time.
I don't know how you could do that in core.time, since ticksPerSec and
On Dec 16, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/16/11 12:40 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2011 11:45:42 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I am pretty sure they don't need static this(). Only last night I
removed static this() from core.time.
I don't know how
On Friday, December 16, 2011 11:07:14 Sean Kelly wrote:
On Dec 16, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 12/16/11 12:40 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2011 11:45:42 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I am pretty sure they don't need static this(). Only last night I
On Friday, December 16, 2011 18:55:29 Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
On 16-12-2011 19:27, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2011 18:45:01 Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On 12/16/11, Jonathan M Davisjmdavisp...@gmx.com wrote:
It would also kill CTFE for stuff that isn't a template.
I
On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:48 PM, bearophile wrote:
In some cases I use a global variable only from a small small number of
functions, like foo() and main() here:
import std.stdio;
__gshared static int x = 10;
void foo() {
// uses x
writeln(foo);
}
void main() {
auto fptr =
Interesting stuff.
Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote in message
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We can use lazy initialization instead of compulsively initializing
library internals. I think this is often a worthy thing to do in any case
(dynamic libraries
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:29:18 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
Hello,
Late last night Walter and I figured a few interesting tidbits of
information. Allow me to give some context, discuss them, and sketch a
few approaches for improving things.
A while ago
On Friday, December 16, 2011 12:29:18 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Jonathan, could I impose on you to replace all static cdtors in
std.datetime with lazy initialization? I looked through it and it
strikes me as a reasonably simple job, but I think you'd know better
what to do than me.
A
On 12/16/11 1:23 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
I disagree with this assessment. It's good to know the cause of the
problem, but let's look at the root issue -- reflection. The only reason
to include class information for classes not being referenced is to be
able to construct/use classes at
On 12/16/2011 08:41 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2011 12:29:18 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Jonathan, could I impose on you to replace all static cdtors in
std.datetime with lazy initialization? I looked through it and it
strikes me as a reasonably simple job, but I think
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