On 2013-10-17 22:35, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
- Walter is still not tagging the beta releases by the file name (it's
always dmd2beta.zip). I've complained about this several times and
IIRC someone else did as well at dconf (maybe I'm remembering wrong
though). They should at least be named as
code.dlang.org
Does we should have cats? maybe the organization by tags is
better?
Am 18.10.2013 08:47, schrieb Suliman:
code.dlang.org
Does we should have cats? maybe the organization by tags is better?
You mean like a flat list of tags?
Currently it's something like hierarchical tags. Each package can have
multiple categories, and the specific categories, as well as the
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 06:36:43 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-10-17 22:35, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
- Walter is still not tagging the beta releases by the file
name (it's
always dmd2beta.zip). I've complained about this several times
and
IIRC someone else did as well at dconf (maybe
On 10/17/2013 11:45 PM, deadalnix wrote:
Also, when NOT using the unittest flag, a lot of my code do not compile, symbol
_D6object15__T7reserveTyaZ7reserveFNaNbNeKAyamZm is missing.
See:
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11284
Am 17.10.2013 20:25, schrieb Tourist:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 18:22:02 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
Am 16.10.2013 21:01, schrieb Sönke Ludwig:
The DUB package registry [1] has finally gained support for the text and
category based search of packages. There is also a category for D
standard
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 10:23:20 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
Am 17.10.2013 20:25, schrieb Tourist:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 18:22:02 UTC, Sönke Ludwig
wrote:
Am 16.10.2013 21:01, schrieb Sönke Ludwig:
The DUB package registry [1] has finally gained support for
the text and
category
On 16/10/2013 13:42, Dicebot wrote:
On Wednesday, 16 October 2013 at 12:38:40 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
On 08/10/2013 14:18, Alexander Bothe wrote:
Are there any plans/tricks/hacks on how to get programs built
with dmd debuggable with gdb? Then we also could release the
addin for Windows as
On 16/10/2013 22:21, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 10/16/13 5:38 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
On 08/10/2013 14:18, Alexander Bothe wrote:
Are there any plans/tricks/hacks on how to get programs built
with dmd debuggable with gdb? Then we also could release the
addin for Windows as well!
(Afaik I
On 18 October 2013 12:43, Bruno Medeiros brunodomedeiros+...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16/10/2013 22:21, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 10/16/13 5:38 AM, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
On 08/10/2013 14:18, Alexander Bothe wrote:
Are there any plans/tricks/hacks on how to get programs built
with dmd
On 10/18/13, eles e...@eles.com wrote:
IIRC, Walter wanted that file to always be named dmd.zip or
dmd2.zip or whatever, in order to allow a permanent download
link, while guaranteeing the file to be the latest version of the
tool.
This is the wrong approach. There should be a latest_beta
On 10/18/13 7:08 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On 10/18/13, eles e...@eles.com wrote:
IIRC, Walter wanted that file to always be named dmd.zip or
dmd2.zip or whatever, in order to allow a permanent download
link, while guaranteeing the file to be the latest version of the
tool.
This is the wrong
Major changes since 0.9.18
- Added support for dub build package name and
dub run package name to build/run a specific package instead of
the root package in the current directory. This works for any
installed packages, as well as for sub packages.
- Added a --root=directory switch to
Am 18.10.2013 09:33, schrieb deadalnix:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 07:21:47 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 10/17/2013 11:45 PM, deadalnix wrote:
Also, when NOT using the unittest flag, a lot of my code do not
compile, symbol
_D6object15__T7reserveTyaZ7reserveFNaNbNeKAyamZm is missing.
See:
On Friday, October 18, 2013 08:57:00 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Speaking of which, insisting on using .zip files is another beef I
have with Walter. The whole everyone on Windows is stuck in the 90s
mentality is plain wrong, especially for programmers. 7zip (or Peazip
or whatever) should
On 10/18/13, Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
I don't think that makes a large difference. Probably the better thing
to do is trimming the contents of the archive.
Right, but this is more general. He also dislikes non-zip archives in
bugzilla attachments.
On 18 Oct 2013 19:45, Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.com wrote:
On Friday, October 18, 2013 08:57:00 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Speaking of which, insisting on using .zip files is another beef I
have with Walter. The whole everyone on Windows is stuck in the 90s
mentality is plain
This is a good list of things that we could and should improve. Getting
all minded to perfection would be difficult, but definitely worth living
into.
I appreciate your enthusiasm for and involvement in D. At the top level
a few simple realities need to be understood.
First, there is no OSS
On 10/18/2013 12:33 AM, deadalnix wrote:
I highly doubt that this fit into cases 1 to 4 as you mention. I'll however
double check with that in mind.
I want to know about any other cases, so please investigate.
That also doesn't explain why I get a closure bug (frame pointer or frame
content
On 10/18/2013 11:17 AM, Rory McGuire wrote:
Does it even support executable permissions?
Yes, it does.
On 18 Oct 2013 21:00, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:17 AM, Rory McGuire wrote:
Does it even support executable permissions?
Yes, it does.
Nice. It's there any particular reason you prefer zip?
I guess it's irrelevant what the current format is if we start
I get bitten by it locally too: if there's a test with an
inaccurate sql query with time formatted as string, the sql
server doesn't always compute it, because the default
human-readable time format is taken from the current locale,
and to parse it one first has to guess the format itself,
download link gives:
500 - Internal Server Error
Internal Server Error
Internal error information:
core.exception.AssertError@../../../opt/vibe/source/vibe/http/client.d(252):
Interleaved request detected!
./allsites(_d_assert_msg+0x45) [0x6f0d55]
./allsites(bool
On 10/18/2013 12:14 PM, Rory McGuire wrote:
Nice. It's there any particular reason you prefer zip?
It's easy and works on all platforms.
I also point out that, for all platforms supported, when we do a release we also
build a custom download package for each platform in that platform's
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1opwa3/facebook_adopts_d_language/
On 10/18/13, Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
nobody has the time and inclination to actually _be_ the
build czar (which is entirely understandable).
Building something should be a command on the command-line. The whole
issue is about currently having a person in place
On 10/18/2013 1:29 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
But I hope you understand this isn't really about you or Walter not
doing these things yourself, but rather the fact that you didn't seem
to recognize this as being a problem. I've mentioned the build/release
issue many times, and now we finally have
On Friday, October 18, 2013 15:31:05 Walter Bright wrote:
We do need a Build Czar, because the install builds break every time, due to
things like failure to update the manifests, new build targets, new
features, etc. Somebody has to be responsible for getting all the scripts
tested and
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 23:25:52 UTC, Meta wrote:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 23:18:21 UTC, DDD wrote:
I tried this code and the compiler allowed it (runtime I get
object.Error: Access Violation). What am I doing wrong?
Thanks I didn't notice
@safe
import std.stdio;
class A {
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 22:56:04 UTC, DDD wrote:
Hi I heard that you can pass a command line argument to make D
safe. Like 0 chance of memory corruption and such. I tried
looking here http://dlang.org/dmd-linux.html but I couldn't
figure it out. If it matters I'm on windows using the
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 23:18:21 UTC, DDD wrote:
I tried this code and the compiler allowed it (runtime I get
object.Error: Access Violation). What am I doing wrong?
Thanks I didn't notice
@safe
import std.stdio;
class A {
int x = 1;
}
@safe void main() {
A a;
On 18.10.2013 05:03, Manu wrote:
Even with VS2010, I don't like msbuild. I think msbuild has good
dependency handling, see the Intel Compiler integration which is
horrible. My impression is that MS subverts msbuild for C++ to make
it acceptable.
Fair enough.
So property
On 10/16/2013 10:27 PM, Brad Anderson wrote:
I agree. It's just a matter of getting Walter on board. He hasn't said yay or
nay to lib64 but he's just put sc.ini in the repo now for hot steamy pull
request action so I think he's probably down.
I'll let you guys duke it out and it'll hopefully
Explained here:
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11284
It's a bit complicated, and important.
BTW, I hate the name of the switch, but haven't thought of anything better.
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 07:04:39 UTC, Maxim Fomin wrote:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 23:18:21 UTC, DDD wrote:
I tried this code and the compiler allowed it (runtime I get
object.Error: Access Violation). What am I doing wrong?
Thanks I didn't notice
@safe
import std.stdio;
class
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 19:14:11 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
vibed.org
vibe.d fully event-based, but also want to learn how to do it
with D
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 07:43:58 UTC, Netwalker wrote:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 19:14:11 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
vibed.org
vibe.d fully event-based, but also want to learn how to do it
with D
The full source is available here:
https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/vibe.d?source=cc
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 07:17:12 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Explained here:
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11284
It's a bit complicated, and important.
BTW, I hate the name of the switch, but haven't thought of
anything better.
A good start would be to have the issues
On 18 October 2013 04:03, Manu turkey...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 October 2013 07:20, Rainer Schuetze r.sagita...@gmx.de wrote:
On 17.10.2013 10:41, Manu wrote:
Hmmm, I tend to think that sc.ini should be ignored/overridden entirely
under VisualD.
Visual Studio has all its own places to
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 06:26:51 UTC, Maxim Fomin wrote:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 23:25:52 UTC, Meta wrote:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 23:18:21 UTC, DDD wrote:
I tried this code and the compiler allowed it (runtime I get
object.Error: Access Violation). What am I doing wrong?
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 09:10:30 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 06:26:51 UTC, Maxim Fomin wrote:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 23:25:52 UTC, Meta wrote:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 23:18:21 UTC, DDD wrote:
I tried this code and the compiler allowed it
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 02:08:59 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:00:04 -0700
H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote:
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:07:20PM -0400, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
In contrast, with a dynamically typed language, the type of a
variable can
I had a stupid bug:
class Base {
SomeStruct someStruct;
// ...
}
class BaseSub {
// ...
override {
public void doThis() {
auto someStruct = checkSomething(input); // Bug is here,
of course,
// a leftover
from old code
}
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 00:32:46 +0100, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx
wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:27:33AM +0200, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 23:12:03 UTC, ProgrammingGhost
wrote:
is null still treats [] as null.
blah, you're right. It will at least distinguish
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 10:23:34 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 02:08:59 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:00:04 -0700
H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote:
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:07:20PM -0400, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
In contrast, with a
On 18 October 2013 08:17, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
Explained here:
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11284
It's a bit complicated, and important.
BTW, I hate the name of the switch, but haven't thought of anything better.
GDC has -femit-templates which
On 2013-10-18 09:54, Iain Buclaw wrote:
Wishful thinking if you were to believe that one day VisualStudio and
GCC will be ABI compatible (*cough*)
It seems LLVM tries to be compatible with Visual Studio.
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 10:03:03 UTC, Maxim Fomin wrote:
portable), but you can enable treating nulls as exception in
linux if you use etc.linux.memoryerrors.
Oh. This exists. Don't suppose there were any plans to document
it?
-Wyatt
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:44:59 +0200
Chris wend...@tcd.ie wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 10:23:34 UTC, Chris wrote:
from bottleneck import runslow
I like bottlenecks in Blues, not in programs.
Heh. They're very satisfying to play. Such a rich bass. Also fun to
annoy people with :)
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 07:43:58 UTC, Netwalker wrote:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 19:14:11 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
vibed.org
vibe.d fully event-based, but also want to learn how to do it
with D
vibe.d internally uses libevent win32 event drivers for actual
event implementation
Can you please re-generate the documentation after all recent
updates?
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 12:22:16 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:44:59 +0200
Chris wend...@tcd.ie wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 10:23:34 UTC, Chris wrote:
from bottleneck import runslow
I like bottlenecks in Blues, not in programs.
Heh. They're very
On 10/18/2013 12:50 AM, ProgrammingGhost wrote:
How do I find out if null was passed in? As you can guess I wasn't happy
with the current behavior.
...
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/rkdzdxygpflpnaznx...@forum.dlang.org?page=5
On 10/18/2013 02:55 PM, Dicebot wrote:
Can you please re-generate the documentation after all recent updates?
I usually do that. The only documentation missing is for MultiLogger, as
I'm not sure if the current implementation is done.
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 22:30:52 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
http://dlang.org/d-array-article.html
It should be enlightening.
Yes, now I understand this article, but only after I had this
long discussion here. The relevant statement for me is The
responsible party for managing a
Ok. Here's a version to work with, if anyone wants to reproduce
the behavior.
import std.stdio;
void main() {
auto sub = new BaseSub();
sub.doSomething();
}
class Base {
SomeStruct someStruct;
this() {
}
public void
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 13:35:19 UTC, Robert Schadek wrote:
On 10/18/2013 02:55 PM, Dicebot wrote:
Can you please re-generate the documentation after all recent
updates?
I usually do that. The only documentation missing is for
MultiLogger, as
I'm not sure if the current implementation
On 10/18/2013 03:49 PM, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 13:35:19 UTC, Robert Schadek wrote:
On 10/18/2013 02:55 PM, Dicebot wrote:
Can you please re-generate the documentation after all recent updates?
I usually do that. The only documentation missing is for MultiLogger, as
I'm
On 10/18/2013 09:30 AM, Maxim Fomin wrote:
...
Nice collection.
// Case 12. Breaking immutable via pure //
import std.stdio;
import core.memory;
class A
{
int *ptr;
~this()
{
(*ptr)++;
}
}
pure foo()
{
A a = new A;
int* ptr = new int;
a.ptr =
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 13:38:01 UTC, Vitali wrote:
My prevoius example of the function removeElement(ref int[],
int) will not work. The right implementation would be:
void removeElement(ref int[] arr, int index) {
arr[index..$-1] = arr[index+1..$].dup;
.dup allocates a copy. The
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 14:27:36 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
for(size_t idx = index; idx arr.length - 1; idx++)
arr[idx] = arr[idx + 1];
You can do it via slice element-wise assignment:
arr[index..$-1][] = arr[index+1..$][]
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 14:29:44 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 14:27:36 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
for(size_t idx = index; idx arr.length - 1; idx++)
arr[idx] = arr[idx + 1];
You can do it via slice element-wise assignment:
arr[index..$-1][] =
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 14:29:44 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
You can do it via slice element-wise assignment:
nope, run the copy syntax and get this:
object.Error: overlapping array copy
(unless this was changed recently too)
Adam D. Ruppe:
arr.length = arr.length - 1; // arr.length-- won't compile
due to silliness
This code now compiles, the bug was fixed:
void foo(ref int[] arr) {
arr.length--;
}
void main() {}
Bye,
bearophile
Dicebot:
You can do it via slice element-wise assignment:
arr[index..$-1][] = arr[index+1..$][]
Overlapping slices error. You have to copy with Phobos...
Bye,
bearophile
On 2013-10-18 13:47, Iain Buclaw wrote:
GDC has -femit-templates which emits all templates as private, then
the linker then removes unreferenced templates. This however is
different from the behavior in 2.063, in that it generates code for
*no really, all* instantiated templates. This is
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 07:17:12 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Explained here:
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11284
It's a bit complicated, and important.
BTW, I hate the name of the switch, but haven't thought of
anything better.
I'd suggest to also support
On 10/17/13 10:45 PM, Jesse Phillips wrote:
I believe this
was the behavior of D1, is not true in D2 and must not be true for
immutable arrays such as string.
Yes, there have been repeated discussions in this group about changing
that behavior, it created pernicious long-distance dependencies
On Tuesday, 15 October 2013 at 15:21:52 UTC, Johannes Pfau wrote:
I think one increasingly important point for std.log is
'structured
logging'.
Structured logging is basically not simply logging textual
messages, but
also logging additional KEY/VALUE pairs of data. The idea is
that logs
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11293
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/druntime/pull/641
On 10/17/13 11:53 PM, Maxim Fomin wrote:
Root of the issue is that in D static type system and memory safity are
separated from each other. Key idea is that having information about
static type of object is not sufficient to know whether using it is
memory safe or not.
This is a common
On 10/18/13 3:44 AM, Regan Heath wrote:
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 00:32:46 +0100, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx
wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:27:33AM +0200, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 23:12:03 UTC, ProgrammingGhost
wrote:
is null still treats [] as null.
blah,
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 15:39:35 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
This is a common approach in many languages (actually all that
I know about). Clearly stuff on the stack can be attached an
invisible attribute it's on the stack! but that doesn't go
well with separate compilation.
As we
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 15:29:09 UTC, ilya-stromberg wrote:
About syntax - we can use something like this:
log!(user, server, errorCode)(LOGIN_FAILED_UUID, Couldn't log
in);
That will be template instance bloat disaster for something used
as commonly as log function (comparing to a
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 16:01:30 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 15:29:09 UTC, ilya-stromberg
wrote:
About syntax - we can use something like this:
log!(user, server, errorCode)(LOGIN_FAILED_UUID, Couldn't log
in);
That will be template instance bloat disaster for
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 15:42:56 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 10/18/13 3:44 AM, Regan Heath wrote:
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 00:32:46 +0100, H. S. Teoh
hst...@quickfur.ath.cx
wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:27:33AM +0200, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Thursday, 17 October 2013 at 23:12:03
Chris:
I had a stupid bug:
class Base {
SomeStruct someStruct;
// ...
}
class BaseSub {
// ...
override {
public void doThis() {
auto someStruct = checkSomething(input); // Bug is
here, of course,
// a leftover
from old code
Am 18.10.2013 17:40, schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu:
On 10/17/13 11:53 PM, Maxim Fomin wrote:
...
It's a given that safety will disallow constructs that are safe upon
inspection but the type system is unable to prove correct. This is the
case for all languages, C# included.
Andrei
Wouldn't
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 15:42:56 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
That's bad API design, pure and simple. The function should
e.g. return the string including the line terminator, and only
return an empty (or null) string upon EOF.
I'd say it should throw upon EOF as it is pretty
On 10/18/13 9:26 AM, Max Samukha wrote:
*That's* bad API design. readln should be symmetrical to writeln, not
write. And about preserving the exact representation of new lines,
readln/writeln shouldn't preserve that, pure and simple.
Fair point. I just gave one possible alternative out of
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 06:34:07PM +0200, Paulo Pinto wrote:
Am 18.10.2013 17:40, schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu:
On 10/17/13 11:53 PM, Maxim Fomin wrote:
...
It's a given that safety will disallow constructs that are safe upon
inspection but the type system is unable to prove correct. This is
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 06:26:05PM +0200, Max Samukha wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 15:42:56 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 10/18/13 3:44 AM, Regan Heath wrote:
[...]
Take this simple design:
string readline();
This function would like to be able to:
- return null for EOF
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:19:17 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:06:57 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
But if we're gonna do it, I say we should go all the way:
And make scope the default parameter thingy, and implement it.
God I want some kind of escaping check thing
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 07:19:16PM +0200, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:06:57 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
But if we're gonna do it, I say we should go all the way:
And make scope the default parameter thingy, and implement it.
God I want some kind of escaping check thing
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 07:25:03PM +0200, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:19:17 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:06:57 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
But if we're gonna do it, I say we should go all the way:
And make scope the default parameter thingy, and
On Friday, October 18, 2013 09:55:46 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 10/18/13 9:26 AM, Max Samukha wrote:
*That's* bad API design. readln should be symmetrical to writeln, not
write. And about preserving the exact representation of new lines,
readln/writeln shouldn't preserve that, pure and
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:06:57 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
But if we're gonna do it, I say we should go all the way:
And make scope the default parameter thingy, and implement it.
God I want some kind of escaping check thing so badly, it is
supposed to work already!
On Friday, October 18, 2013 10:31:55 H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 07:25:03PM +0200, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:19:17 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:06:57 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
But if we're gonna do it, I say we should go all the
On Friday, October 18, 2013 10:05:39 H. S. Teoh wrote:
It would break existing code.
But if we're gonna do it, I say we should go all the way: make @safe,
pure, and nothrow default, and require annotations only for @system,
impure, throwing. If we advertise D as do the right thing by
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:32:58PM -0400, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, October 18, 2013 09:55:46 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 10/18/13 9:26 AM, Max Samukha wrote:
*That's* bad API design. readln should be symmetrical to writeln,
not write. And about preserving the exact
On Friday, October 18, 2013 18:32:32 bearophile wrote:
Currently D doesn't give an error or warning if in a method you
declare a local variable with the same name of a instance member.
This is indeed a source of bugs and I have had similar problems.
Generally D prefers to minimize the number
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:38:12PM -0400, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, October 18, 2013 10:31:55 H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 07:25:03PM +0200, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:19:17 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 17:06:57 UTC, H.
On Friday, October 18, 2013 10:41:38 H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:38:12PM -0400, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
What's the reason for refusing to implement flow analysis? Maybe I'm
missing something obvious, but for the purposes of escape analysis,
isn't it enough to just have a
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 15:42:56 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
This comes up time and again. The use of, and ability to
distinguish
empty from null is very useful.
I disagree.
That what if does by default.
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 16:55:19 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
Fair point. I just gave one possible alternative out of many.
Thing is, relying on client code to distinguish subtleties
between empty and null strings is fraught with dangers.
Andrei
I agree. Thinking about your
On Friday, October 18, 2013 10:38:12 H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:32:58PM -0400, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, October 18, 2013 09:55:46 Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 10/18/13 9:26 AM, Max Samukha wrote:
*That's* bad API design. readln should be symmetrical to
Jonathan M Davis:
The prime example is constructors.
this(int a, string b)
{
this.a = a;
this.b = b;
...
}
That example of yours shows a possible intermediate rule: when in
a method you define a local variable that has the same name as an
instance member, then the instance member must
On 10/18/13 10:53 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Friday, October 18, 2013 10:41:38 H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:38:12PM -0400, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
What's the reason for refusing to implement flow analysis? Maybe I'm
missing something obvious, but for the purposes of escape
On 10/18/2013 10:42 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
If you want to avoid the problem, then just don't name your local
variables
the same as your member variables
Like OP, when I was bitten by this before, I had not intended to define
a local variable. It is too easy for the fingers to drop an
On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 18:59:46 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
I think one good compromise is to stick with the exact amount
of flow control we currently have in constructors (which is
primitive but quite adequate), and use that creatively. It's
already implemented and works, so the
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