Re: Project Elvis

2017-11-09 Thread Adam Wilson via Digitalmars-d
On 11/6/17 12:20, Michael wrote: I can't quite see why this proposal is such a big deal to people - as has been restated, it's just a quick change in the parser for a slight contraction in the code, and nothing language-breaking, it's not a big change to the language at all. On Monday, 6 Novembe

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread jmh530 via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 10 November 2017 at 01:19:06 UTC, codephantom wrote: Well, everytime I wanted to find something, I had to google it... Then I realised I had to pay for it as well...and, that's when i gave up. Bill Gates wasn't the richest man in the world for so long without reason. ;)

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 14:42:41 UTC, Joakim wrote: As I said earlier, the mobile OS story is not over yet, there are more changes to come. Yeah...like more factories making more dongles. You want a dongle? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XSC_UG5_kU

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread Jerry via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 10 November 2017 at 01:04:05 UTC, codephantom wrote: On Friday, 10 November 2017 at 00:23:03 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: I don't disagree that there are differences between FreeBSD and Linux, but my point is that for most folks, the differences are small enough that it's not all tha

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 10 November 2017 at 01:15:26 UTC, Jerry wrote: Not much of a technie nerd if it "just finished" and you've already exhausted your knowledge and have given up :). Just sayin'. Well, everytime I wanted to find something, I had to google it... Then I realised I had to pay for it as we

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 10 November 2017 at 00:23:03 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: I don't disagree that there are differences between FreeBSD and Linux, but my point is that for most folks, the differences are small enough that it's not all that different from trying to convince someone to use one Linux dis

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 10 November 2017 at 00:23:03 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: Plenty of us do get picky about details, which would lead us to one or the other, depending on our preferences, but there are way more similarities than differences - to the point that to many folks, the differences seem prett

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, November 09, 2017 23:42:37 codephantom via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 11:47:32 UTC, Jonathan M Davis > > wrote: > > Oh, I'm all for using FreeBSD, but most of the arguments for > > using FreeBSD over Windows apply to Linux. And if you can't get > > someone

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread codephantom via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 11:47:32 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: Oh, I'm all for using FreeBSD, but most of the arguments for using FreeBSD over Windows apply to Linux. And if you can't get someone to switch from Windows to Linux, you're not going to get them to switch to FreeBSD. FreeB

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 14:42:41 UTC, Joakim wrote: Do you blame them, given such anti-competitive measures long undertaken by MS and Apple? Big businesses do what they can get away with. Once upon a time governments cared about anti-trust (E.g. AT&T and IBM), but nowadays it seems li

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread Jerry via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 14:42:41 UTC, Joakim wrote: There is some truth to this, but if you cannot compete with a free product- cough, cough, Windows Mobile- I don't know what to tell you. In other words, google cannot afford to spend a fraction of the money on Android that Apple spend

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 14:22:22 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: I also think we should add to this discussion that Google was hellbent on going forward with Android even when it was clearly inferior. Apple tried to squish out Google's services from their iOS products for a while. And t

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 14:15:47 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 00:09:32 UTC, Joakim wrote: smaller search company, did with Android, leaving aside Apple because of your silly claims that their existing software gave them a headstart, which is why those

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
I also think we should add to this discussion that Google was hellbent on going forward with Android even when it was clearly inferior. Apple tried to squish out Google's services from their iOS products for a while. And that is exactly what Google tries to prevent by funding things like Chrome

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 00:09:32 UTC, Joakim wrote: smaller search company, did with Android, leaving aside Apple because of your silly claims that their existing software gave them a headstart, which is why those former computing giants are all either dead or fading fast. It is hardl

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 12:27:49 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 00:09:32 UTC, Joakim wrote: ... I think you greatly overestimate what was needed to compete in this mobile market at that time. I'm not saying it was easy, but the PC and mobile giants before iOS/

Re: [OT] mobile rising

2017-11-09 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 9 November 2017 at 00:09:32 UTC, Joakim wrote: ... I think you greatly overestimate what was needed to compete in this mobile market at that time. I'm not saying it was easy, but the PC and mobile giants before iOS/Android clearly didn't have the vision or ability to execute what