Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-20 Thread John Reimer
Hello jcc7, == Quote from John Reimer (terminal.n...@gmail.com)'s article ... Our adoption of the original dwt newsgroup and project space was a move of convenience and simplification... and perhaps may have been perceived as somewhat opportunistic. That's something I can't completely deny.

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-20 Thread jcc7
== Quote from John Reimer (terminal.n...@gmail.com)'s article ... > Our adoption of the original dwt newsgroup and project space was a > move of convenience and simplification... and perhaps may have been > perceived as somewhat opportunistic. That's something I can't > completely deny. I've con

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-17 Thread Don
Bill Baxter wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Don wrote: John Reimer wrote: Still it's nice to have a basic cross-platform GUI right there in the standard distribution of the language. Does DWT offer that yet? Certainly it didn't at the moment of 'standardisation'. I don't think so.

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-17 Thread John Reimer
Hello Don, John Reimer wrote: Hello Bill, On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 6:46 AM, John Reimer wrote: Back to the present. Again, it would be easier if we just fix this situation by changing the "dwt" newsgroup to "GUI" and forget about the reference to "standard" for now. Ugh, that would be t

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-17 Thread Bill Baxter
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Don wrote: > John Reimer wrote: >> >>> Still it's nice to have a basic cross-platform GUI right there in the >>> standard distribution of the language. >>> > > Does DWT offer that yet? Certainly it didn't at the moment of > 'standardisation'. I don't think so. It

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-17 Thread Don
John Reimer wrote: Hello Bill, On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 6:46 AM, John Reimer wrote: Back to the present. Again, it would be easier if we just fix this situation by changing the "dwt" newsgroup to "GUI" and forget about the reference to "standard" for now. Ugh, that would be terrible. I re

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-17 Thread John Reimer
Hello Bill, On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 6:46 AM, John Reimer wrote: Back to the present. Again, it would be easier if we just fix this situation by changing the "dwt" newsgroup to "GUI" and forget about the reference to "standard" for now. Ugh, that would be terrible. I really don't care what

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-17 Thread Bill Baxter
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 6:46 AM, John Reimer wrote: > Back to the present. Again, it would be easier if we just fix this > situation by changing the "dwt" newsgroup to "GUI" and forget about the > reference to "standard" for now. Ugh, that would be terrible. I really don't care what troubles a

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-17 Thread John Reimer
Hello Don, Stewart Gordon wrote: John Reimer wrote: 2) You don't have enough information to go on to make that change, unless you have dicussed this with Walter. Maybe he doesn't want to recognize the old DWT as "standard" anymore, if it isn't actively developed. Maybe neither library is

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-17 Thread Don
Stewart Gordon wrote: John Reimer wrote: 2) You don't have enough information to go on to make that change, unless you have dicussed this with Walter. Maybe he doesn't want to recognize the old DWT as "standard" anymore, if it isn't actively developed. Maybe neither library is "standard".

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-17 Thread John Reimer
Hello Alexander, Stewart Gordon wrote: John Reimer wrote: 2) You don't have enough information to go on to make that change, unless you have dicussed this with Walter. Maybe he doesn't want to recognize the old DWT as "standard" anymore, if it isn't actively developed. Maybe neither libra

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-17 Thread Alexander Pánek
Stewart Gordon wrote: John Reimer wrote: 2) You don't have enough information to go on to make that change, unless you have dicussed this with Walter. Maybe he doesn't want to recognize the old DWT as "standard" anymore, if it isn't actively developed. Maybe neither library is "standard".

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-17 Thread Stewart Gordon
John Reimer wrote: 2) You don't have enough information to go on to make that change, unless you have dicussed this with Walter. Maybe he doesn't want to recognize the old DWT as "standard" anymore, if it isn't actively developed. Maybe neither library is "standard". Maybe you're right.

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-16 Thread John Reimer
Hello Bill, On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM, John Reimer wrote: Hello Stewart, John Reimer wrote: Good question. I think the new dwt release just inherited (or hijacked) the title based on the release made by Shawn a couple of years ago which was Phobos compatible. So effectively, the

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-16 Thread John Reimer
Hello jcc7, Other issues (such as whether DWT should be the standard, whether it should be noted so prominently on the wiki page, and whether there's any brainwashing occurring) are still up for debate. Our adoption of the original dwt newsgroup and project space was a move of convenience

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-16 Thread Bill Baxter
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM, John Reimer wrote: > Hello Stewart, > >> John Reimer wrote: >> >>> >>> Good question. I think the new dwt release just inherited (or >>> hijacked) the title based on the release made by Shawn a couple of >>> years ago which was Phobos compatible. >>> >> So effect

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-16 Thread John Reimer
Hello Stewart, Alexander Pánek wrote: Stewart Gordon wrote: Really, while Tango DWT may have superseded Phobos DWT as being the DWT that's still actively maintained, Phobos DWT remains the SDGL. That’s a tremendously awesome idea. It’s at least as awesome as to keep the car with two blown

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-16 Thread John Reimer
Hello Stewart, John Reimer wrote: Good question. I think the new dwt release just inherited (or hijacked) the title based on the release made by Shawn a couple of years ago which was Phobos compatible. So effectively, the Phobos-based DWT is what was passed off as the "standard D GUI librar

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-16 Thread Stewart Gordon
Alexander Pánek wrote: Stewart Gordon wrote: Really, while Tango DWT may have superseded Phobos DWT as being the DWT that's still actively maintained, Phobos DWT remains the SDGL. That’s a tremendously awesome idea. It’s at least as awesome as to keep the car with two blown tyres and no engin

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-16 Thread Alexander Pánek
Stewart Gordon wrote: Really, while Tango DWT may have superseded Phobos DWT as being the DWT that's still actively maintained, Phobos DWT remains the SDGL. That’s a tremendously awesome idea. It’s at least as awesome as to keep the car with two blown tyres and no engine because it’s been dec

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-16 Thread Stewart Gordon
John Reimer wrote: Good question. I think the new dwt release just inherited (or hijacked) the title based on the release made by Shawn a couple of years ago which was Phobos compatible. So effectively, the Phobos-based DWT is what was passed off as the "standard D GUI library", and when th

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-16 Thread Mike Wey
Piotrek wrote: Tim M wrote: It's brainwashing people into think that dwt is the best thing around. IMHO, It's better then anything around. It works on Linux/Windows and is easy to use. There's only one competitor named gtkD, but... the button usage example from the project site with such a n

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-15 Thread John Reimer
Hello tim, On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:08:28 +1300, John Reimer wrote: ... Personally, I think we're at a point in D's life where we don't need to call it standard. Maybe it would be better to have a newsgroup called "GUI" instead. I'm not sure. -JJR That sounds more fair. Incase

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-15 Thread Piotrek
Tim M wrote: It's brainwashing people into think that dwt is the best thing around. IMHO, It's better then anything around. It works on Linux/Windows and is easy to use. There's only one competitor named gtkD, but... the button usage example from the project site with such a nice line of code

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-15 Thread Tim M
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:08:28 +1300, John Reimer wrote: ... Personally, I think we're at a point in D's life where we don't need to call it standard. Maybe it would be better to have a newsgroup called "GUI" instead. I'm not sure. -JJR That sounds more fair. Incase you

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-15 Thread John Reimer
Hello tim, On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:25:39 +1300, Stewart Gordon wrote: http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GuiLibraries This page gives the standard D GUI library as being DWT, which is now a "Tango based port of SWT v3.4 GUI Library + JFace and more". Note "Tango based". How can it be

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-15 Thread jcc7
== Quote from Tim M (a...@b.com)'s article ... > Now that you brought the subject up I would just like to add my > opinion on something which I've been meaning to say for a long time. > I really disagree with the way that page describes the various > options. It says standard d gui library and othe

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-14 Thread Tim M
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:25:39 +1300, Stewart Gordon wrote: http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GuiLibraries This page gives the standard D GUI library as being DWT, which is now a "Tango based port of SWT v3.4 GUI Library + JFace and more". Note "Tango based". How can it be the stand

Re: Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-14 Thread John Reimer
Hello Stewart, http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GuiLibraries This page gives the standard D GUI library as being DWT, which is now a "Tango based port of SWT v3.4 GUI Library + JFace and more". Note "Tango based". How can it be the standard D GUI library when it isn't compatible with s

Anomaly on Wiki4D GuiLibraries page

2009-01-14 Thread Stewart Gordon
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GuiLibraries This page gives the standard D GUI library as being DWT, which is now a "Tango based port of SWT v3.4 GUI Library + JFace and more". Note "Tango based". How can it be the standard D GUI library when it isn't compatible with standard D, i.e