On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 19:34:03 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 16:39:40 UTC, Elie Morisse wrote:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 19:35:11 UTC, Laeeth Isharc
wrote:
I posted some thoughts on web docs writeup of C+= interface
here.
On Tuesday, 27 January 2015 at 16:39:40 UTC, Elie Morisse wrote:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 19:35:11 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
I posted some thoughts on web docs writeup of C+= interface
here.
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 19:35:11 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
I posted some thoughts on web docs writeup of C+= interface
here.
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/fmjehcyzhnirybmnj...@forum.dlang.org#post-fmjehcyzhnirybmnjloj:40forum.dlang.org
Do you think we could make binaries of calypso
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 09:58:25 UTC, Ulrich Küttler wrote:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 08:59:34 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/26/2015 12:18 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
Calypso is not a separate tool. It's a fork of LDC which
allows you to directly
import/include a C++ header files
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 00:37:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Excuse the creator's bias :)
I agree that Jacob's description makes things more clear, added!
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 10:16:04 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/26/2015 1:58 AM, Ulrich =?UTF-8?B?S8O8dHRsZXIi?=
kuett...@gmail.com wrote:
The idea is just brilliant. I for one am excited about the
prospect. Lets please
discuss how to get the plugin into D, sooner rather than
later. No
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 16:40:38 UTC, Elie Morisse wrote:
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 00:37:02 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Excuse the creator's bias :)
I agree that Jacob's description makes things more clear, added!
I posted some thoughts on web docs writeup of C+= interface here.
On Monday, 26 January 2015 at 08:59:34 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/26/2015 12:18 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
Calypso is not a separate tool. It's a fork of LDC which
allows you to directly
import/include a C++ header files and use the declarations
from within D. No
bindings or intermediate
On 1/26/2015 1:58 AM, Ulrich =?UTF-8?B?S8O8dHRsZXIi?= kuett...@gmail.com
wrote:
The idea is just brilliant. I for one am excited about the prospect. Lets please
discuss how to get the plugin into D, sooner rather than later. No language is
an island. (Apologies to Nick Hornby and everyone else
On 1/26/2015 12:18 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
It works something like this:
Given the C++ header file foo.h:
void bar(unsigned *);
and the C++ source file foo.cpp:
void bar(unsigned *p) { }
I want to call bar() from my D code in test.d:
void main() {
uint x;
On 2015-01-26 01:37, Walter Bright wrote:
I'm obviously terrible at communicating. Let me try again. Assume that I
wrote Calypso, and I was explaining it to you:
-
Given the C++ header file foo.h:
void bar(unsigned *);
and the C++ source file
On Sunday, 25 January 2015 at 10:18:34 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
I'm sorry, but it still far from clear just what Calypso does.
Suppose I have a C++ file, test.cpp, that contains:
int foo(unsigned *p);
How do I use Calypso to interface with that from D:
... what happens here ? ...
On 1/24/2015 5:26 PM, Elie Morisse wrote:
The README should be clearer now about what Calypso is supposed to do, links to
the showcase example which I improved and expanded with a template partial and
explicit spec example, and explains how to build it and link it to a C++
library.
(thanks to
On 1/25/2015 1:36 PM, John Colvin wrote:
On Sunday, 25 January 2015 at 20:45:26 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Calypso registers itself as a language plugin, and when parse.c encounters
parse.c is not part of my project. Where is parse.c?
here?
On Sunday, 25 January 2015 at 22:45:31 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Not what I meant.
What does parse.c have to do with the user of Calypso?
How does the user use Calypso? Where is Calypso? How do I run
Calypso?
A user of Calypso will be baffled when encountering user
documentation of Calypso
On Sunday, 25 January 2015 at 10:18:34 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Next, in the README example, it says:
$ clang++ -std=c++11 -c showcase.cpp -o showcase.cpp.o
$ ar rcs libshowcase.a showcase.cpp.o
$ ldc2 -cpp-args -std=c++11 -Llibshowcase.a -L-lstdc++
showcase.d
Where's Calypso in that?
On Sunday, 25 January 2015 at 20:45:26 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Calypso registers itself as a language plugin, and when
parse.c encounters
parse.c is not part of my project. Where is parse.c?
here?
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/blob/master/src/parse.c
On 1/25/2015 3:07 PM, Elie Morisse wrote:
On Sunday, 25 January 2015 at 22:45:31 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Not what I meant.
What does parse.c have to do with the user of Calypso?
How does the user use Calypso? Where is Calypso? How do I run Calypso?
A user of Calypso will be baffled when
On 1/25/15 4:37 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/25/2015 3:07 PM, Elie Morisse wrote:
On Sunday, 25 January 2015 at 22:45:31 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Not what I meant.
What does parse.c have to do with the user of Calypso?
How does the user use Calypso? Where is Calypso? How do I run Calypso?
On 1/25/2015 7:16 AM, Elie Morisse wrote:
On Sunday, 25 January 2015 at 10:18:34 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Next, in the README example, it says:
$ clang++ -std=c++11 -c showcase.cpp -o showcase.cpp.o
$ ar rcs libshowcase.a showcase.cpp.o
$ ldc2 -cpp-args -std=c++11 -Llibshowcase.a
On Friday, 23 January 2015 at 18:43:30 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
2. We (or Calypso) define D class counterparts for polymorphic
types thrown from C++, notably std::exception and subtypes.
N.B. those are D classes, not D structs
Wouldn't it be easier with structs? They lack only one
The README should be clearer now about what Calypso is supposed
to do, links to the showcase example which I improved and
expanded with a template partial and explicit spec example, and
explains how to build it and link it to a C++ library.
(thanks to the simple partial spec example a nasty
On 2015-01-23 17:02, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
We should make the life of plugin writers easy. They do get to decide
what other prerequisites their tools have.
Are you suggesting to have a general plugin architecture in DMD? That
would be very cool, especially if they can be installed as
On 1/23/15 8:57 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2015-01-23 17:02, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
We should make the life of plugin writers easy. They do get to decide
what other prerequisites their tools have.
Are you suggesting to have a general plugin architecture in DMD?
It's something worth
On Friday, 23 January 2015 at 00:24:45 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
I think it's important that we enable Calypso
(https://github.com/Syniurge/Calypso) and related tooling that
interfaces D with other languages, notably C++.
A key topic in 2015 for D is playing well with C++. A good C++
On 1/23/15 10:27 AM, Elie Morisse wrote:
Exception catching is next after the first light of my Ogre3D demo,
Clang will probably simplify handling of C++ exceptions a lot.
On that front, a coworker gave me a simple idea for integration.
1. All C++ non-polymorphic types thrown cannot be caught
On 2015-01-23 19:43, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On that front, a coworker gave me a simple idea for integration.
1. All C++ non-polymorphic types thrown cannot be caught in D
2. We (or Calypso) define D class counterparts for polymorphic types
thrown from C++, notably std::exception and
On Friday, 23 January 2015 at 11:26:07 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/23/2015 3:22 AM, Abdulhaq wrote:
On Friday, 23 January 2015 at 10:53:47 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
Yes, it's tied to clang++. It may not even work on all the
platforms we
support. But that's no matter for now.
When you say
On 2015-01-23 11:52, Walter Bright wrote:
Yes, it's tied to clang++. It may not even work on all the platforms we
support. But that's no matter for now.
At least Clang supports all platforms we support.
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On 1/23/2015 2:42 AM, Abdulhaq wrote:
Calypso sounds fantastic but seems very tied to one compiler - we all need to
know if yourself and Walter are content with that, for instance.
Yes, it's tied to clang++. It may not even work on all the platforms we support.
But that's no matter for now.
On Friday, 23 January 2015 at 00:24:45 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
I think it's important that we enable Calypso
(https://github.com/Syniurge/Calypso) and related tooling that
interfaces D with other languages, notably C++.
A key topic in 2015 for D is playing well with C++. A good C++
On Friday, 23 January 2015 at 10:53:47 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/23/2015 2:42 AM, Abdulhaq wrote:
Calypso sounds fantastic but seems very tied to one compiler -
we all need to
know if yourself and Walter are content with that, for
instance.
Yes, it's tied to clang++. It may not even
On 1/23/2015 12:34 AM, Max Klyga wrote:
I remember Walter arguing against this type of solutions because it requires a
C++ compiler to be bundled with D.
Yes.
Does that mean that now we are adopting this path instead of 'extern(C++)' ?
No. I presume it will work much like htod.exe, and
On Friday, 23 January 2015 at 10:52:26 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 1/23/2015 12:34 AM, Max Klyga wrote:
I remember Walter arguing against this type of solutions
because it requires a
C++ compiler to be bundled with D.
Yes.
Does that mean that now we are adopting this path instead of
On 1/23/2015 3:22 AM, Abdulhaq wrote:
On Friday, 23 January 2015 at 10:53:47 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
Yes, it's tied to clang++. It may not even work on all the platforms we
support. But that's no matter for now.
When you say for now, does that imply that at some time in the future it may
On 2015-01-23 00:24:44 +, Andrei Alexandrescu said:
I think it's important that we enable Calypso
(https://github.com/Syniurge/Calypso) and related tooling that
interfaces D with other languages, notably C++.
A key topic in 2015 for D is playing well with C++. A good C++
interface will
On 1/23/15 12:34 AM, Max Klyga wrote:
I remember Walter arguing against this type of solutions because it
requires a C++ compiler to be bundled with D.
It doesn't require as much as makes it usable if you have it. Calypso
requires dmd + clang++ is the natural dependency direction.
Does
On 1/23/15 2:42 AM, Abdulhaq wrote:
Calypso sounds fantastic but seems very tied to one compiler - we all
need to know if yourself and Walter are content with that, for instance.
We should make the life of plugin writers easy. They do get to decide
what other prerequisites their tools have.
On Friday, 23 January 2015 at 00:24:45 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
I think it's important that we enable Calypso
(https://github.com/Syniurge/Calypso) and related tooling that
Safe to assume this will be LDC only?
I think it's important that we enable Calypso
(https://github.com/Syniurge/Calypso) and related tooling that
interfaces D with other languages, notably C++.
A key topic in 2015 for D is playing well with C++. A good C++ interface
will give access to a host of mature C++ libraries, starting of
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 04:24:44PM -0800, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
I think it's important that we enable Calypso
(https://github.com/Syniurge/Calypso) and related tooling that interfaces D
with other languages, notably C++.
[...]
But first, I want to get better acquainted
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:33:18AM +, Dicebot via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Friday, 23 January 2015 at 00:31:54 UTC, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[...]
What exactly is Calypso and what is it supposed to do? The README is
unhelpful in this respect. All I can tell is that it's a fork of
On Friday, 23 January 2015 at 00:31:54 UTC, H. S. Teoh via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 04:24:44PM -0800, Andrei Alexandrescu
via Digitalmars-d wrote:
I think it's important that we enable Calypso
(https://github.com/Syniurge/Calypso) and related tooling that
interfaces D
with
First, a general increase in quality test coverage. If C++ interop is
a priority, it makes sense to focus on ironing out what's already there.
I've filed a few bugs over the last 2 months or so and I don't think
I'm trying anything too far out there. Some of these are internal
compiler errors
On 2015-01-23 01:24, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
I think it's important that we enable Calypso
(https://github.com/Syniurge/Calypso) and related tooling that
interfaces D with other languages, notably C++.
I could always use some help with DStep [1]. For those who doesn't know,
it's an
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