Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

On 2016-04-24 15:20, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote: To be fair, DMD doesn't implement the D2 specification either. I didn't say it did ;). There's also the question "what is the specification?". DMD, http://dlang.org/spec/spec.html, TDPL or a combination of all of them. -- /Jacob

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

On 23 April 2016 at 21:35, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On 2016-04-21 03:01, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > >> ## How complete are the free compilers? >> This is an important question, because we would need to know whether we >> can expect D code to be compiled

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

On 2016-04-21 03:01, Matthias Klumpp wrote: ## How complete are the free compilers? This is an important question, because we would need to know whether we can expect D code to be compiled by any compiler, or whether there are tradeoffs that must be made. This question is asking manly how

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

On Friday, 22 April 2016 at 09:18:48 UTC, Kagamin wrote: RMW operations on shared data are deprecated. The template filter on atomicOp is a little different: https://dlang.org/phobos/core_atomic.html#.atomicOp Looks like an LDC bug. Yes, this was indeed an LDC issue. We have our own

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

On Friday, 22 April 2016 at 09:18:48 UTC, Kagamin wrote: Looks like an LDC bug. Or not. If template constraint doesn't match, the error should be "template instance does not match template declaration".

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

FYI: I don't want to comment here for now because Debian packaging is very different from Arch packaging but I am keeping my eyes on the thread :)

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On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 15:41:17 UTC, Matthias Klumpp wrote: Asgen is super-boring code ;-) Mainly because the task it performs can be represented without using much black magic. One interesting possibility with D is that you can test what performance impact boundschecking has on your

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

Am Thu, 21 Apr 2016 15:34:35 + schrieb Matthias Klumpp : > Hi, and thanks for your detailed explanations! You're welcome :-) > On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 11:49:13 UTC, Johannes Pfau wrote: > > On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 01:01:01 UTC, Matthias Klumpp > > wrote:

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

> > You can only install headers for one library version with this > > approach! A versioned approach is nicer > > /usr/include/d/libfoo/1.0.0 but requires explicit compiler > > support and it's unlikely this will happen (or explicit dub > > support and you compile everything through dub). >

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Am Thu, 21 Apr 2016 15:34:35 + schrieb Matthias Klumpp : > That doesn't seem to be the case for LDC on Debian... It installs > Phobos into /usr/include/d/std, which makes GDC go crazy as soon > as LDC is installed too. See also:

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

Am Thu, 21 Apr 2016 01:01:01 + schrieb Matthias Klumpp : > Hello! > Me bringing dub to Debian (and subsequently Ubuntu) has sparked > quite some interest in getting more D applications shipped in > Linux distributions. Having been in a similar situation years ago, I

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 09:07:57 UTC, Johan Engelen wrote: On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 01:01:01 UTC, Matthias Klumpp wrote: The question here is also, which compiler should be the default (which IMHO would be the most complete, most bug-free actively maintained one ^^). Is

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 11:58:23 UTC, Kagamin wrote: On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 01:01:01 UTC, Matthias Klumpp wrote: [...] Many D users are enthusiasts and push the compiler to its limits, they are usually stuck with DMD (even DMD HEAD sometimes) as it provides the latest fixes. It

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

Hi, and thanks for your detailed explanations! On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 11:49:13 UTC, Johannes Pfau wrote: On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 01:01:01 UTC, Matthias Klumpp wrote: [...] You currently can't install druntime or phobos headers in this directory, as each compiler will have

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 01:01:01 UTC, Matthias Klumpp wrote: ## How complete are the free compilers? This is an important question, because we would need to know whether we can expect D code to be compiled by any compiler, or whether there are tradeoffs that must be made. This question

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 11:49:13 UTC, Johannes Pfau wrote: I'd love to have some extended compiler support (so you could simply do gdc -use=libfoo:1.0.0 and this would pick up the correct headers and linker flags). But as some DMD maintainers are opposed to this idea it won't happen.

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On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 01:01:01 UTC, Matthias Klumpp wrote: ## Where should D source-code / D interfaces be put? If I install a D library or source-only module as a distribution package, where should the sources be put? So far, I have seen: * /usr/include/d * /usr/include/dlang/ *

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On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 08:30:59 UTC, John Colvin wrote: On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 01:01:01 UTC, Matthias Klumpp wrote: ## How complete are the free compilers? ## Why is every D compiler shipping an own version of Phobos? The constraints on shipping a shared phobos between them: ABI

Re: Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 01:01:01 UTC, Matthias Klumpp wrote: The question here is also, which compiler should be the default (which IMHO would be the most complete, most bug-free actively maintained one ^^). Is performance of the outputted code a criterium? Or the number of supported

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On Thursday, 21 April 2016 at 01:01:01 UTC, Matthias Klumpp wrote: ## How complete are the free compilers? ## Why is every D compiler shipping an own version of Phobos? These two can be answered at once. LDC and GDC share the same frontend code as DMD, but not the glue layer and backend

Distributor's whishlist and questions for D

Hello! Me bringing dub to Debian (and subsequently Ubuntu) has sparked quite some interest in getting more D applications shipped in Linux distributions. Since I think D is a great language, I would welcome that - in order to get more D code into distributions though, it would be awesome to