On Monday, 19 August 2013 at 22:16:39 UTC, ProgrammingGhost wrote:
Is it true? Are you able to read a line (or two) at once?
I have been doing it since early school days and was quite
surprised to find out later that it is not the common case. Well,
when reading technical literature I often c
On Sunday, 18 August 2013 at 17:28:16 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
On 18 August 2013 18:24, ProgrammingGhost
wrote:
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 18:25:02 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
For a column of text to be readable it should have not much
more than 10
words per line. Going beyond that forc
On Sunday, 18 August 2013 at 18:33:05 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
...
When people expect to get a performance gain from simply using
certain language, it just can't end good.
Specially because they tend to do the common fallacy of comparing
languages instead of implementations.
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 09:26:45AM +0100, Russel Winder wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 01:59 -0400, John Joyus wrote:
> > On 08/11/2013 04:22 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
> > > http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
> >
> > This article claims the "Performance [of D]
On Sunday, 18 August 2013 at 18:31:17 UTC, Timon Gehr wrote:
I guess that's debatably mimicking C behaviour.
What behavior do you refer to?
On Sunday, 18 August 2013 at 18:26:13 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
On Sunday, 18 August 2013 at 18:08:58 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Yes, in limited circumstances if you write D like you would
write C, you can get comparative performance.
I'd say in all cases when you mimic C behavior in D one should
expe
On 08/18/2013 08:26 PM, John Colvin wrote:
On Sunday, 18 August 2013 at 18:08:58 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Yes, in limited circumstances if you write D like you would write C,
you can get comparative performance.
I'd say in all cases when you mimic C behavior in D one should expect
same or better pe
On Sunday, 18 August 2013 at 18:08:58 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Yes, in limited circumstances if you write D like you would
write C, you can get comparative performance.
I'd say in all cases when you mimic C behavior in D one should
expect same or better performance with ldc/gdc unless you hit a
bu
Yes, in limited circumstances if you write D like you would
write C, you can get comparative performance.
I'd say in all cases when you mimic C behavior in D one should
expect same or better performance with ldc/gdc unless you hit a
bug.
On 18 August 2013 18:24, ProgrammingGhost
wrote:
> On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 18:25:02 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>
>> For a column of text to be readable it should have not much more than 10
>> words per line. Going beyond that forces eyes to scan too jerkily and causes
>> difficulty in f
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 18:25:02 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
For a column of text to be readable it should have not much
more than 10 words per line. Going beyond that forces eyes to
scan too jerkily and causes difficulty in following line breaks.
This.
Also some people can read a lin
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 06:35:30 -0400
Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
> On 08/18/2013 01:59 AM, John Joyus wrote:
> > On 08/11/2013 04:22 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
> >> http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
> >
> > This article claims the "Performance [of D] is equivalent to
On 08/18/2013 01:59 AM, John Joyus wrote:
On 08/11/2013 04:22 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
This article claims the "Performance [of D] is equivalent to C".
Is that true? I mean even if D reaches 90% of C's performance, I sti
On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 01:59 -0400, John Joyus wrote:
> On 08/11/2013 04:22 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
> > http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
>
> This article claims the "Performance [of D] is equivalent to C".
>
> Is that true? I mean even if D reaches 90% of C
On 08/11/2013 04:22 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
This article claims the "Performance [of D] is equivalent to C".
Is that true? I mean even if D reaches 90% of C's performance, I still
consider it great because of its produc
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:52:23AM +0200, Chris wrote:
> On Tuesday, 13 August 2013 at 01:00:12 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
[...]
> >Rewind history back to early 2000 and you'll understand. At the
> >time, PHP was the best solution (which says more about how bad the
> >situation was than how great PHP wa
On Tuesday, 13 August 2013 at 09:52:25 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 August 2013 at 01:00:12 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 18:57:12 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 17:23:39 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:58:22 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe
wrote
On Tuesday, 13 August 2013 at 01:00:12 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 18:57:12 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 17:23:39 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:58:22 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe
wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:45:52 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 03:00:10 +0200
"deadalnix" wrote:
> On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 18:57:12 UTC, Chris wrote:
> > On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 17:23:39 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> >> On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:58:22 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> >>> On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:45:52 UTC, Chris
On 08/12/2013 09:44 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> You really should post that somewhere as a "blog" article.
Probably will write something up on academic publishing in the near future --
bug me if I don't follow up on that ... :-)
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 18:57:12 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 17:23:39 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:58:22 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:45:52 UTC, Chris wrote:
unless it's a very specific thing like web development
wher
On 08/12/2013 10:04 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> I'd agree a lot more with what follows if it weren't for workshops, symposia,
> and journals, which together complete quite a large spectrum of publication
> and
> debate venues, all with different tradeoffs.
I agree that there are other avenue
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:18:26 -0700
"H. S. Teoh" wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 02:53:44AM -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 20:01:27 -0700
> > "H. S. Teoh" wrote:
> > >
> > > I personally prefer single-column with no more than about 40 ems
> > > in width or thereabouts. An
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 20:33:46 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
I always feel so sad when awesome irony usage gets totally
unnoticed because is it just too awesome to be obvious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 20:13:13 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
*ahem* How is column width in PDF articles related to whether
or not D
is the answer to the One vs. Two Language High Performance
Computing
Dilemma? ;)
I always feel so sad when awesome irony usage gets totally
unnoticed becau
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:51:39 +0200
"Dicebot" wrote:
> On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:28:01 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> > Yea. (And for vertical sh'mups!) That's also the reason 4:3
> > monitors
> > would have to be pryed from my cold dead hands. 16:9 is fine
> > for videos
> > and games, but
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:23:17 +0200
"Idan Arye" wrote:
> On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:58:22 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> > On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:45:52 UTC, Chris wrote:
> >> unless it's a very specific thing like web development
> >> where PHP etc are handier.
> >
> > D rox for webdev
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:34:22 -0700
"H. S. Teoh" wrote:
>
> But this is only the least of PHP's problems. I'm not going to repeat
> what people have said about PHP's flaws, but you can read all about it
> here:
>
> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
>
Ever s
On 8/12/13 4:45 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
On 08/12/2013 05:57 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 8/11/13 4:45 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 23:37:28 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
That's an odd thing to say seeing as a lot of CS academic research is
t
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:45:02 +0200
Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
> On 08/12/2013 05:57 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> > On 8/11/13 4:45 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
> >> On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 23:37:28 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
> >> wrote:
> >>> That's an odd thing to say seeing as
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 08:57:10PM +0200, Chris wrote:
> On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 17:23:39 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> >On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:58:22 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> >>On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:45:52 UTC, Chris wrote:
> >>>unless it's a very specific thing like web developm
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:58:22 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:45:52 UTC, Chris wrote:
unless it's a very specific thing like web development
where PHP etc are handier.
D rox for webdev too :) Only downside is it isn't pre-installed
like php tends to be, but
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 17:23:39 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:58:22 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:45:52 UTC, Chris wrote:
unless it's a very specific thing like web development
where PHP etc are handier.
D rox for webdev too :) Only dow
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 17:03:44 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
It's not my fault, it's the mailman/NNTP interface that's
causing
problems. I use the mailing list interface.
Btw was anyone planning to fix this on server side? I dream of
the day when bunch of mail-based responses won't render web
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:58:22 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:45:52 UTC, Chris wrote:
unless it's a very specific thing like web development
where PHP etc are handier.
D rox for webdev too :) Only downside is it isn't pre-installed
like php tends to be, but
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:58:22 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:45:52 UTC, Chris wrote:
unless it's a very specific thing like web development
where PHP etc are handier.
D rox for webdev too :) Only downside is it isn't pre-installed
like php tends to be, but
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 06:49:08PM +0200, bearophile wrote:
> H. S. Teoh:
>
> Just a note, you are somehow breaking most threads you answer to.
[...]
It's not my fault, it's the mailman/NNTP interface that's causing
problems. I use the mailing list interface.
T
--
What do you call optometrist
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:45:52 UTC, Chris wrote:
unless it's a very specific thing like web development
where PHP etc are handier.
D rox for webdev too :) Only downside is it isn't pre-installed
like php tends to be, but it still rox.
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 16:28:01 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Yea. (And for vertical sh'mups!) That's also the reason 4:3
monitors
would have to be pryed from my cold dead hands. 16:9 is fine
for videos
and games, but my computer isn't a glorified TV
...
It has bugged me too in laptop scr
H. S. Teoh:
Just a note, you are somehow breaking most threads you answer to.
Bye,
bearophile
The authors of that article sum it up quite well. I used D for
the same reasons and I don't see why I should use any other
language for new projects, unless it's a very specific thing like
web development where PHP etc are handier. For years I had been
dreaming of something like D.
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:50:19 +0200
"Wyatt" wrote:
> On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 17:20:37 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> > rare few who have a monitor that swivels vertically or some
>
> Once you go vertical, you never go back!
>
> No, really, considering how much nicer it is for _every kind of
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 02:53:44AM -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 20:01:27 -0700
> "H. S. Teoh" wrote:
> >
> > I personally prefer single-column with no more than about 40 ems in
> > width or thereabouts. Anything more than that, and it becomes
> > uncomfortable to read.
> >
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 11:45:31 UTC, Joseph Rushton
Wakeling wrote:
On 08/12/2013 05:57 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 8/11/13 4:45 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 23:37:28 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
First, it means people write to the submission de
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 15:49:25 UTC, monarch_dodra wrote:
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 15:42:24 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:22:34 -0700
Walter Bright wrote:
http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
Holy crap those two-column PDFs
On 08/12/2013 09:12 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> I'm seeing a lot of focus here on the printed page. People can do
> whatever the heck they want when they go print handouts and such.
> But that doesn't mean they have to, or should, shoehorn their
> electronic publications into a form that's poorly
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 15:42:24 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Holy crap those two-column PDFs are hard to read!
Hehe, "Introduction to the DWARF debugging format" by Michael
Eager is a 3-column pdf: down, up, down, up, down, left, right,
A, B, Instant Kill.
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 17:20:37 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
rare few who have a monitor that swivels vertically or some
Once you go vertical, you never go back!
No, really, considering how much nicer it is for _every kind of
documentation_ (and most code), it's sad that this standard
f
On 08/12/2013 05:57 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 8/11/13 4:45 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
>> On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 23:37:28 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>> That's an odd thing to say seeing as a lot of CS academic research is
>>> ten years ahead of the industry.
>>
>> I wou
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 16:28:21 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 8/11/13 8:49 AM, monarch_dodra wrote:
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 15:42:24 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:22:34 -0700
Walter Bright wrote:
http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp201
On Monday, 12 August 2013 at 03:02:59 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
I still program with 80*24 displays. Well, more like 80*40, but
I find
that it's actually far more readable than the common obsession
with
squint-inducing microscopic fonts trying to cram as much on the
screen
as possible. Having too
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 16:33:26 -0700
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 8/11/13 12:00 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>
> > B. There's nothing stopping authors from making their PDFs a
> > single-column at whatever line width works well. Like I said,
> > personally I've never found 8" line width at a norm
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 20:01:27 -0700
"H. S. Teoh" wrote:
>
> I personally prefer single-column with no more than about 40 ems in
> width or thereabouts. Anything more than that, and it becomes
> uncomfortable to read.
>
For me, it's closer to 80. With 40 the line breaks are too frequent for
my ey
On 8/11/13 4:45 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 23:37:28 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
That's an odd thing to say seeing as a lot of CS academic research is
ten years ahead of the industry.
I would personally venture to say that the publication practises of
ac
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 04:33:26PM -0700, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 8/11/13 12:00 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> >On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 11:25:02 -0700
> >Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> >>
> >>For a column of text to be readable it should have not much more
> >>than 10 words per line. Going beyond
On 8/11/2013 4:33 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Clearly PDF and other fixed-format products are targeted at putting ink on
paper, and that's going the way of the dinosaur. At the same time, the
publishing industry is very much in turmoil for the time being and only future
will tell what the righ
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 23:37:28 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
That's an odd thing to say seeing as a lot of CS academic
research is ten years ahead of the industry.
I would personally venture to say that the publication practises
of academia in general and CS in particular have many de
On 8/11/13 12:09 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 20:43:17 +0200
"Tyler Jameson Little" wrote:
I really wish this was more popular:
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On 8/11/13 12:00 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 11:25:02 -0700
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
For a column of text to be readable it should have not much more than
10 words per line. Going beyond that forces eyes to scan too jerkily
and causes difficulty in following line breaks. F
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 08:22:35 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
Interesting, and certainly D being a wide spectrum language is a
reason that many of us investigate it. Julia is aiming at the
same space as that mentioned
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 15:42:24 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:22:34 -0700
Walter Bright wrote:
http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
Holy crap those two-column PDFs are hard to read! Why in the
world does
academia keep doing that
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 20:43:17 +0200
"Tyler Jameson Little" wrote:
>
> I really wish this was more popular:
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On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 11:25:02 -0700
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>
> For a column of text to be readable it should have not much more than
> 10 words per line. Going beyond that forces eyes to scan too jerkily
> and causes difficulty in following line breaks. Filling an A4 or
> letter paper with onl
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 18:25:02 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 8/11/13 10:20 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 09:28:21 -0700
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 8/11/13 8:49 AM, monarch_dodra wrote:
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 15:42:24 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
On Sun,
On 8/11/13 10:20 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 09:28:21 -0700
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 8/11/13 8:49 AM, monarch_dodra wrote:
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 15:42:24 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:22:34 -0700
Walter Bright wrote:
http://elrond.inform
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 09:28:21 -0700
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 8/11/13 8:49 AM, monarch_dodra wrote:
> > On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 15:42:24 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> >> On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:22:34 -0700
> >> Walter Bright wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/pape
On 8/11/13 8:49 AM, monarch_dodra wrote:
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 15:42:24 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:22:34 -0700
Walter Bright wrote:
http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
Holy crap those two-column PDFs are hard to read! Why i
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 08:48:04 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
..whatever happened to std.serialize?
I am gathering information to start yet another review/inclusion
attempt + waiting for Jacobs confirmation. In progress.
On Sunday, 11 August 2013 at 15:42:24 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:22:34 -0700
Walter Bright wrote:
http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
Holy crap those two-column PDFs are hard to read! Why in the
world does
academia keep doing that
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 01:22:34 -0700
Walter Bright wrote:
> http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
Holy crap those two-column PDFs are hard to read! Why in the world does
academia keep doing that anyway? (Genuine question, not rhetoric)
But the fact that article
On 11 August 2013 09:22, Walter Bright wrote:
> http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
That looks to have been written well over a year ago... But still a
good point in it, whatever happened to std.serialize?
--
Iain Buclaw
*(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) +
http://elrond.informatik.tu-freiberg.de/papers/WorldComp2012/PDP3426.pdf
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